Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

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Alan Pardew said:
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A moment of silence for the SJW from countries that pay for, or for a percentage of, tuition. So many oppression points lost.
 
Yawning Bulbasaur said:
Male rhesus monkeys found to show a preference for masculine toys and females towards toys for both genders
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You know, I'm not 100% against men and women have different psychological tendencies (the very fact that LGBT is even a thing shows there are differences in brain structure), but I'd hesitate to conclude these differences must exist based on observations of a different primate species. The wonderful thing about humanity is that our intelligence allows us to override our instincts, so gender roles can be much more flexible among us than for rhesus monkeys. And then sexual dimorphism in humans is relatively low as far as primates are concerned (e.g. the body mass difference between men and women is ~15%, whereas most other primates are 50-55%). I'm just saying we shouldn't be too quick to make judgements about human sexes based off different species.
 
Well, gerbil females are cool with each other but as soon as a male of mating age is around they will fight to the death. All female clans or a alpha female with a hareem of males. That sounds like some female SJW I have seen.

Something something lions, something something bonobos, something something monkeys understanding the concept of toys and not relying on inborn instict.
 
ZehnBoat said:
wow, someone is actually giving a shit about class?
class is kind of a fucking big deal, in fact it overrides pretty much everything else.
but you don't see sjw's bring it up much.. it's as if they might mostly be upperclass themselves.
(i'm of the mind that most SJWs are well off. and act like they are oppressed because they want attention. then again i'm sure most of these whiny shits haven't really had a bad day in their life. )
they also don't mention religion much either, hmmmm...........
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I'm actually really surprised to see class come-up from an SJW. They do tend to be comfortable kids who have the luxury of having the free time to pontificate about shit of which they are entirely ignorant.

This kind of thing is prone to third variables, but correlation is pretty clear. Look at educational attainment, lifespan, and health. What is the biggest single predictor of this in the US? The wealth of your family! Same applies to the UK. We can also point to geographical location, which is both causative of and a consequence of wealth: poor people end up living in shit places, and people born in to shit places tend to be poor. Gender and race are a side-show by comparison, but we know that certain races are over-represented in poor demographics.

Some facts from UK that help demonstrate the connection between poverty and educational attainment.
Looking at the UK, what predicts GCSE (high-school level certificates) attainment? This is important, as education is itself highly predictive of future health and wealth. The average rate of achieving 5 or more GCSE passes (grades A-C) is around 58% nationwide. So what are the factors?

Gender? Girls had better check their privilege; statistically they outperform boys. 61.9% of girls achieved 5 or more passes compared to 54.6% of boys.

Race? Blacks underperform by 3.8 points. Asians tend to over-perform, but this is a pretty broad demographic. Chinese and Indians came out top. Also people in this group can be impacted by having to speak English as a second language. Girls of ethnic groups tend to outperform boys.

Poverty? This is judged by looking at students who receive free school meals (FSM), and it's a pretty good indicator of someone coming from a poor family. I wonder how many UK SJWs were enrolled in FSM? Probably not many. I think FSM is typically for households with a household income of less than £16,000 ($24,882) per year. 33.8% of children on FSM will achieve 5 or more GSCE passes compared to 62.3% of all other pupils. 28 points is a big fucking difference. By comparison, black children underperformed the average by 3.8 points. Looking at all ethnic groups, girls outperformed boys across the board. So at least with GCSEs there's a pretty clear order of privilege, going from least to most:

4 - Poor
3 - Blacks
2 - White and Asian Boys
1 - White and Asian Girls

Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...pupil-characteristics-in-england-2010-to-2011

Why are GCSEs important? After GCSEs, students in the UK will typically do A-Levels as a precursor to moving to degree level studies. There are bridging courses that can be done, particularly for mature students, but in general GCSE attainment will determine how far you can take your education. Also people looking to go straight in to work will find themselves hampered by a lack of A-C passes - particularly maths and English.

Look at US statistics. I'd be surprised if we don't similar patterns in terms of wealth. And no fucking surprise that SJWs like to downplay this kind of stuff, as they tend to be white kids from more comfortable financial backgrounds. Anyone who says that gender as a whole is the big challenge for equality is either ignorant or a liar.
 
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ZehnBoat said:
wow, someone is actually giving a shit about class?
class is kind of a fucking big deal, in fact it overrides pretty much everything else.
but you don't see sjw's bring it up much.. it's as if they might mostly be upperclass themselves.
(i'm of the mind that most SJWs are well off. and act like they are oppressed because they want attention. then again i'm sure most of these whiny shits haven't really had a bad day in their life. )
they also don't mention religion much either, hmmmm...........
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They do mention class privilege occasionally albeit not often. There are a few social justice warriors who claim to be poor but usually instead of talking about their experience in poverty the "poor" label is just something they can latch onto their giant Pity Machine. Communism is a very common ideology.

Religion is very rarely mentioned because SJWs see Western religion as the bedrock of oppression and therefore all the world's evil. The emphasis here is on Western, specifically Christianity, which is what they think when they hear "religion". However, they will unabashedly defend any religion that is "Eastern" or "PoC", and for the most part they excuse any sketchy aspects. I think they used to be split over whether they should criticize Islam, but nowadays they seem to have put it in the PoC category even though few Muslims are actually Arab and many of them are white.
 
Had my own brush with a SJW-type today. In my Skype chat with friends. A friend and I were discussing some social issues, such as tolkenism and racism, when I said the concept of white guilt is absurd, that I personally do not suffer from it.

This person jumps in right away. She is, I believe, like 1/8 Cherokee, and she got very offended by my notion of not feeling white guilt. She broke out the ol' "But what your ancestors did to mine were terrible!" First off, I have zero proof of anything my ancestors did on my mother's side. So, giving the benefit of the doubt and saying some of my ancestors did bad things to Native Americans, I still do not feel bad. I let her know as much. Big mistake. She saw this as a personal slur against her heritage. Being recriminated with accusations of racism gets old quick, so I decided to not engage her after that and let her ramble on about how horrible things are for "her people". She is predominantly of Irish, Scottish, and English descent, but I suppose that 1/8th gives her a lot of mileage.

SJWs thrive on the affliction of white guilt a lot of white people have.
 
PhysicianPhallus said:
Had my own brush with a SJW-type today. In my Skype chat with friends. A friend and I were discussing some social issues, such as tolkenism and racism, when I said the concept of white guilt is absurd, that I personally do not suffer from it.

This person jumps in right away. She is, I believe, like 1/8 Cherokee, and she got very offended by my notion of not feeling white guilt. She broke out the ol' "But what your ancestors did to mine were terrible!" First off, I have zero proof of anything my ancestors did on my mother's side. So, giving the benefit of the doubt and saying some of my ancestors did bad things to Native Americans, I still do not feel bad. I let her know as much. Big mistake. She saw this as a personal slur against her heritage. Being recriminated with accusations of racism gets old quick, so I decided to not engage her after that and let her ramble on about how horrible things are for "her people". She is predominantly of Irish, Scottish, and English descent, but I suppose that 1/8th gives her a lot of mileage.

SJWs thrive on the affliction of white guilt a lot of white people have.
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I have Choctaw ancestors on my maternal grandfather's side who were slaveowners

I used to associate with someone very similar who (just like your friend) is at the very most less than a quarter Native American and is pale white with brown hair and blue eyes (complete with septum piercing and unshaved legs and armpits) but still makes a huge fucking deal out of her small sliver of Native ancestry and posted all the time about the Redskins mascot/cultural appropriation/etcetera etcetera, and to be quite honest I think she might possibly be schizophrenic (her dad was and killed himself when she was six because he believed the world would end at Y2K)
 
Here the thing "My grandmother was ...." or "I am [add percentage here]" is generally the way that We[Native American/First Nation] figure out who are just SJW trying to be cool.
 
Ugh, here's a sperg-out by that fat slut, I'm not being mean she's obviously obese and has written SLUT across her chest, who was triggered by that media interview done by Lauren Southern earlier in this thread.

It's an awesome read.

Copy/Patsa begins;

One of the girls in the Slut Walk got triggered and started a campaign against Lauren Southern on Facebook. This is what she wrote:

(I'd do a screen shot in facebook, but I don't use facebook. This was forwarded to me by my girlfriend.)

She writes:

I'M COMING TO MY COMMUNITY OF FACEBOOK FRIENDS ASKING YOU TO PLEASE READ THIS POST. I really need your support as soon as possible. Yesterday at The Slut Walk I along with others was quite traumatized by a woman that was there named Lauren Southern. I was sharing my personal story of being raped by two men when I was 17 and as you can see in this photo she and her crew from Rebel Voice, came up the stairs and into my personal space as I was sharing which was extremely disrespectful, distracting and made me feel very unsafe as I was already in a very vulnerable place.

Weithout my consent *she and two men" recorded my audio and visual. While another extrodinary woman was sharing , Lauren climbed a pillar to be above all of the other women and held up a sign saying that "There is NO Rape culture in The West" She is holding this sign above many women who just shared their stories of sexual assault and rape. The media chased her up the stairs to get shots and the poor women who was sharing her story could hardly finish what she had to say. Now before she held up her sign she interviewed 13 and 14 year old young women. About ten minutes later these young ladies decided to withdraw their consent for any of the photos or footage of them to be used by her and she said "I'm not going to respect the concent of 13 and 14 year Olds"

Not only is that illegal but she is traumatizing these independent bright young women in one of their 1st experiences with activism. It's also ironic that the event is about consent and she was being mentally and physically harassing dozens of women.

Lauren told my friend to check her her many privileges, This was not only hurtful but ironic as she is a trans person is filled with half aboriginal blood. I do not think I need to go into any detail of the struggles faced that come from belonging to both of those groups .

The Slut Walk was now quickly derailed, as was this humans plan. We were suppose to leave for our walk inspired,empowered and ready to bring our message to the streets but All of the media was on her as she was screaming down from a pillar on visually upset and triggered women. She said things like "there is no rape culture in western culture because we have a wonderful justice system that punishes rapists" This almost made me puke as my friend asked women to raise their hand if they had been sexually asulted and their perpetrator had not gone to jail. Many hands were raised. Women were crying, some were leaving.... Her cameramen waited till it looked like we were encircling her to get action shots like we were ganging up on her. A VERY INTENSE FEELING CAME OVER ME. I felt a protector mamma lioness queen roaring and raging inside of me as I watched all of these women who had come here to for healing and fight for their safety be re-victimized. I shouted without a microphone over Lauren Southern spewing her hateful victim blaming b.s . I SHOUTED :WE CAME HERE FOR THE SLUT WALK TODAY. DO NOT LET THIS WOMAN AND HER CAMERAMEN STEAL YOUR THUNDER. YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL AND BRAVE AND I LOVE YOU. FOLLOW ME AND WE WILL TAKE TO THE STREETS AND LEAVE HER BEHIND. I'm not sure where that strength came from. I was shaking and weak after and needed to be held up for a moment as I lead the Wolfpack away from the predator. But I was immediately gifted with many hugs and snuggles from very amazing women that held my hand the whole way.

We had gotten back into the groove and felt as cheerful as we could after what had happened ,when about 30 mins later she appeared again. She forced her way into the walk..just as everyone had began to feel safe again. She shoved her microphone and the men pushed their cameras in my face as I was marching. I covered my face and encouraged others to do so as they still had not received our permission. We got to the end of the walk and she and her cameramen were waiting for us. It was like predator stalking. We were tired and felt quite emotionally exhausted as we had felt so victimized by her and her team from the start of the walk till the end. A day that is usually so liberating and filled with healing was taken hostage by a very power hungry and attention seeking human.

Her and her camera crew knew that we were all at our breaking point and we tried to express how much they were hurting us . So they turned their cameras back on and started walking away so it is going to look like they were far away from us as we raised our voices with them. I asked her how could rape culture not exist in The West if I have been raped 4 times. She just shrugged her shoulders and stared at me blankly. I said that you had not one single one of our permission to film or photograph any of us. Please respect our privacy and do not display the footage and the cameraman yelled back: Look forward to seeing your Slutty faces posted somewhere soon. Lauren Southern is The Libertarian Federal candidate for Federal election. Please if you can write a letter to this party and let them know that their candidate is being very emotionally abusive towards women. Please write to rebel TV and explain that our trauma should not be used for their entertainment. Please post on her FB PAGE and please contact her threw twitter. I am not sure how to use it. I vomited all last night I was so triggered. Many other women are experiencing fallout symptoms too.

Please help stop the revictumization by demanding the footage not be used. Please share this horribly spelt post.
 
Sweet and Savoury said:
Ugh, here's a sperg-out by that fat slut, I'm not being mean she's obviously obese and has written SLUT across her chest, who was triggered by that media interview done by Lauren Southern earlier in this thread.

It's an awesome read.

Copy/Patsa begins;

One of the girls in the Slut Walk got triggered and started a campaign against Lauren Southern on Facebook. This is what she wrote:

(I'd do a screen shot in facebook, but I don't use facebook. This was forwarded to me by my girlfriend.)

She writes:

I'M COMING TO MY COMMUNITY OF FACEBOOK FRIENDS ASKING YOU TO PLEASE READ THIS POST. I really need your support as soon as possible. Yesterday at The Slut Walk I along with others was quite traumatized by a woman that was there named Lauren Southern. I was sharing my personal story of being raped by two men when I was 17 and as you can see in this photo she and her crew from Rebel Voice, came up the stairs and into my personal space as I was sharing which was extremely disrespectful, distracting and made me feel very unsafe as I was already in a very vulnerable place.

Weithout my consent *she and two men" recorded my audio and visual. While another extrodinary woman was sharing , Lauren climbed a pillar to be above all of the other women and held up a sign saying that "There is NO Rape culture in The West" She is holding this sign above many women who just shared their stories of sexual assault and rape. The media chased her up the stairs to get shots and the poor women who was sharing her story could hardly finish what she had to say. Now before she held up her sign she interviewed 13 and 14 year old young women. About ten minutes later these young ladies decided to withdraw their consent for any of the photos or footage of them to be used by her and she said "I'm not going to respect the concent of 13 and 14 year Olds"

Not only is that illegal but she is traumatizing these independent bright young women in one of their 1st experiences with activism. It's also ironic that the event is about consent and she was being mentally and physically harassing dozens of women.

Lauren told my friend to check her her many privileges, This was not only hurtful but ironic as she is a trans person is filled with half aboriginal blood. I do not think I need to go into any detail of the struggles faced that come from belonging to both of those groups .

The Slut Walk was now quickly derailed, as was this humans plan. We were suppose to leave for our walk inspired,empowered and ready to bring our message to the streets but All of the media was on her as she was screaming down from a pillar on visually upset and triggered women. She said things like "there is no rape culture in western culture because we have a wonderful justice system that punishes rapists" This almost made me puke as my friend asked women to raise their hand if they had been sexually asulted and their perpetrator had not gone to jail. Many hands were raised. Women were crying, some were leaving.... Her cameramen waited till it looked like we were encircling her to get action shots like we were ganging up on her. A VERY INTENSE FEELING CAME OVER ME. I felt a protector mamma lioness queen roaring and raging inside of me as I watched all of these women who had come here to for healing and fight for their safety be re-victimized. I shouted without a microphone over Lauren Southern spewing her hateful victim blaming b.s . I SHOUTED :WE CAME HERE FOR THE SLUT WALK TODAY. DO NOT LET THIS WOMAN AND HER CAMERAMEN STEAL YOUR THUNDER. YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL AND BRAVE AND I LOVE YOU. FOLLOW ME AND WE WILL TAKE TO THE STREETS AND LEAVE HER BEHIND. I'm not sure where that strength came from. I was shaking and weak after and needed to be held up for a moment as I lead the Wolfpack away from the predator. But I was immediately gifted with many hugs and snuggles from very amazing women that held my hand the whole way.

We had gotten back into the groove and felt as cheerful as we could after what had happened ,when about 30 mins later she appeared again. She forced her way into the walk..just as everyone had began to feel safe again. She shoved her microphone and the men pushed their cameras in my face as I was marching. I covered my face and encouraged others to do so as they still had not received our permission. We got to the end of the walk and she and her cameramen were waiting for us. It was like predator stalking. We were tired and felt quite emotionally exhausted as we had felt so victimized by her and her team from the start of the walk till the end. A day that is usually so liberating and filled with healing was taken hostage by a very power hungry and attention seeking human.

Her and her camera crew knew that we were all at our breaking point and we tried to express how much they were hurting us . So they turned their cameras back on and started walking away so it is going to look like they were far away from us as we raised our voices with them. I asked her how could rape culture not exist in The West if I have been raped 4 times. She just shrugged her shoulders and stared at me blankly. I said that you had not one single one of our permission to film or photograph any of us. Please respect our privacy and do not display the footage and the cameraman yelled back: Look forward to seeing your Slutty faces posted somewhere soon. Lauren Southern is The Libertarian Federal candidate for Federal election. Please if you can write a letter to this party and let them know that their candidate is being very emotionally abusive towards women. Please write to rebel TV and explain that our trauma should not be used for their entertainment. Please post on her FB PAGE and please contact her threw twitter. I am not sure how to use it. I vomited all last night I was so triggered. Many other women are experiencing fallout symptoms too.

Please help stop the revictumization by demanding the footage not be used. Please share this horribly spelt post.
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It's hard to tell if she's flat-out lying or if she has a self-serving memory and actually believes this is how it happened. I'm guessing a little of both.

Also, "I vomited all last night I was so triggered," is totally my new signature.
 
PhysicianPhallus said:
Had my own brush with a SJW-type today. In my Skype chat with friends. A friend and I were discussing some social issues, such as tolkenism and racism, when I said the concept of white guilt is absurd, that I personally do not suffer from it.

This person jumps in right away. She is, I believe, like 1/8 Cherokee, and she got very offended by my notion of not feeling white guilt. She broke out the ol' "But what your ancestors did to mine were terrible!" First off, I have zero proof of anything my ancestors did on my mother's side. So, giving the benefit of the doubt and saying some of my ancestors did bad things to Native Americans, I still do not feel bad. I let her know as much. Big mistake. She saw this as a personal slur against her heritage. Being recriminated with accusations of racism gets old quick, so I decided to not engage her after that and let her ramble on about how horrible things are for "her people". She is predominantly of Irish, Scottish, and English descent, but I suppose that 1/8th gives her a lot of mileage.

SJWs thrive on the affliction of white guilt a lot of white people have.
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I'm Native American and I grew up on a reservation most of my life (whether you want to really believe that I am is up to you) so I guess I'll throw my two cents out. I personally believe that there should be reconciliation between Natives and White, there is just not point in getting mad at white people and doing so is not going to accomplish anything. A lot of the more radical idiots think that some day we'll take our land back by somehow fighting against the government and I can tell you that's never ever going to happen for a multitude of reasons that would take forever to list. The only thing we can do is to attempt at reconciliation with the white communities and to move on and adapt to the world.

Yawning Bulbasaur said:
I have Choctaw ancestors on my maternal grandfather's side who were slaveowners

I used to associate with someone very similar who (just like your friend) is at the very most less than a quarter Native American and is pale white with brown hair and blue eyes (complete with septum piercing and unshaved legs and armpits) but still makes a huge fucking deal out of her small sliver of Native ancestry and posted all the time about the Redskins mascot/cultural appropriation/etcetera etcetera, and to be quite honest I think she might possibly be schizophrenic (her dad was and killed himself when she was six because he believed the world would end at Y2K)
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On the whole appropriation thing, I don't mind when white people look at Native things and take interest in it, in fact it actually of makes me happy to see white people that genially want to learn about Native cultures because learning about one another is a important step in reconciling. What I really don't like and what I think is real "cultural appropriation" is lying shits pretend to be Native just to hawk new age hippie bullshit to idiots like SJWs.

As for the whole is the word Redskins a racial slur, I'd say that yes, it is slur and I really don't know anyone in my community that doesn't think otherwise. Should they change the name? I personally think they should becasue if there was a professional football team named the New York Kikes or the New Orleans Niggers nobody one would stand for it. Is this is really important? I'd say no, there is a lot more problems than dealing with the name of a football team. The best thing that I personally can be done to help Natives is to help extremely impoverished reservations like Pine Ridge in South Dakota.
 
Thanks for putting it much more eloquently than I ever could, I feel a lot of the "issues" SJW's fight for are likewise hollow, they've found a crowd that cares about it's image (a sports team, a politician, a retail outlet, whatever) and will try to force through these changes in the name of "justice" while never stopping to think, how, exactly, are the lives of oppressed/marginalized/poverty-stricken people going to get better by agreeing to use a new pronoun? Or stop using one? Or redesigning a team mascot that looks a bit too ethnic?

The SJW's give themselves hearty pats on the back and go home about how they've struck their blow for equality, while, at the end of the day, the poor person still is poor. Getting society to "Care" means more than just these little window-dressing exercises, it means devoting actual resources over time, not just "feeling good". I can understand being frustrated by how darn freaking hard it is to reverse generations of sometimes legally-enforced second citizenship, but, so much of SJWness is building straw men to trash and then declare your non-POC sins cleansed when giving $5 to a scholarship fund probably would've done some actual good.
 
You are racist for... not sitting down next to a black person in trains.
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I hate 'white guilt'.

I am white as fuck. Did my ancestors do bad things to minorities? Basically a guarantee. However I know for a fact my long ago ancestors raped and pillaged other white ass people. Hell, it was basically their career. Am I 'guilty', or should I be? No. Do I condone, or am I proud of those choices? No.

I feel it's like trying to say being the parents of a serial killer is the same as being their child. Are there some killers whos had parents and older relitives that are pieces of shit who possibly contributed to their future choices. Sure, whatever, but there are many who came from good loving parents. However, can you look at a child of a killer and scream in it's face that they are responsible for the crimes of their parents?

"Should condemn the behavior", sure, but 'guilt'? Give me a time machine and a chance to tell my ancestors they are acting like assholes, and if I turn down that chance and I will have my guilt.
 
I honestly have to agree.

Plus, not all white people are the same. I have family members who were Polish and suffered under the Nazi rule of their country - remember, the Nazis considered the Poles untermenschen. They managed to leave when the Communists took over.

So I'm supposed to feel bad for what my ancestors did... Except that they were about as oppressed as any other minority.
 
Steamboat_Bill said:
I honestly have to agree.

Plus, not all white people are the same. I have family members who were Polish and suffered under the Nazi rule of their country - remember, the Nazis considered the Poles untermenschen. They managed to leave when the Communists took over.

So I'm supposed to feel bad for what my ancestors did... Except that they were about as oppressed as any other minority.
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also if whites are supposed to feel bad. well, everyone else better fucking feel bad for what their ancestors did.
and if some dumb fuck asks for compensation because "my ancestry were slaves"
well, i have a shit ton of compensation coming to me too.
i'll be taking my small lot of american land, perhaps some money, and someone best apologize for the plights of my people.
oh wait, this is all stupid. as i figure it, if we handed out rewards to make up for what happened to ancestry, it would most likely be a zero sum game anyway.
 
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