Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

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Mrs Paul said:
To be fair, it's not a remake, but a play set in the years that Harry's kids are going to school, and the actress who was cast as Hermione happens to be black. Since it's a stage play, and Rowling liked the actress, I don't see what the big deal there is. She wasn't cast because she was black, just because she got the part. But you should hear the screaming of people about PC and "THAT'S NOT HERMIONE!!!" Relax people. It's a play. Like, as in, on stage. Maybe it's just me, but plays are somehow different than movies or whatever.

(I know far, far too much about shit like this. I should probably stop reading comments on articles)
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I remember people making a stink about this and then Rowling posted a quote from the first book which only gave a very brief description of the character.
 
Mrs Paul said:
To be fair, it's not a remake, but a play set in the years that Harry's kids are going to school, and the actress who was cast as Hermione happens to be black. Since it's a stage play, and Rowling liked the actress, I don't see what the big deal there is. She wasn't cast because she was black, just because she got the part. But you should hear the screaming of people about PC and "THAT'S NOT HERMIONE!!!" Relax people. It's a play. Like, as in, on stage. Maybe it's just me, but plays are somehow different than movies or whatever.

(I know far, far too much about shit like this. I should probably stop reading comments on articles)
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It might have something to do with the fact that these people have literally nothing else going on for them in their lives except their fandom and their associated hugbox.
 
I found this story amidst several other awesome stories involving this dude's grandma, but this one in particular fit this thread so I'm sharing it:

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Mrs Paul said:
To be fair, it's not a remake, but a play set in the years that Harry's kids are going to school, and the actress who was cast as Hermione happens to be black. Since it's a stage play, and Rowling liked the actress, I don't see what the big deal there is. She wasn't cast because she was black, just because she got the part. But you should hear the screaming of people about PC and "THAT'S NOT HERMIONE!!!" Relax people. It's a play. Like, as in, on stage. Maybe it's just me, but plays are somehow different than movies or whatever.

(I know far, far too much about shit like this. I should probably stop reading comments on articles)
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Yep. If anything plays changing background and racial elements are nothing new at all.
 
Mrs Paul said:
To be fair, it's not a remake, but a play set in the years that Harry's kids are going to school, and the actress who was cast as Hermione happens to be black. Since it's a stage play, and Rowling liked the actress, I don't see what the big deal there is. She wasn't cast because she was black, just because she got the part. But you should hear the screaming of people about PC and "THAT'S NOT HERMIONE!!!" Relax people. It's a play. Like, as in, on stage. Maybe it's just me, but plays are somehow different than movies or whatever.

(I know far, far too much about shit like this. I should probably stop reading comments on articles)
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Thanks for clearing that up, looks like I got the wrong idea.
 
MiloWuCollusion said:
Yep. If anything plays changing background and racial elements are nothing new at all.
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Guess the name of this famous Peking production:

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(Hint: It's Shakespeare's Hamlet)

Is this cultural appropriation, or yellowwashing? Someone better coached in social justice needs to tell them that only Europeans can play European roles

But in seriousness, I love crazy localizations like this.

http://a-s-i-a-web.org/en/productions.php
 
H3LLH4MM3R666 said:
Guess the name of this famous Peking production:

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(Hint: It's Shakespeare's Hamlet)

Is this cultural appropriation, or yellowwashing? Someone better coached in social justice needs to tell them that only Europeans can play European roles

But in seriousness, I love crazy localizations like this.

http://a-s-i-a-web.org/en/productions.php
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If you enjoy that, look at some other (in)famous versions of "yellowwashed" Shakespeare plays:
The bad sleep well
Throne of Blood
Ran

Also, it wouldn't be tumblr-brand SJW-Bullshit if there was no hypocrisy. Replacing an originally white character with any other race is totally a-ok. Especially when you make the new character a really one-dimensional stereotype of his new cultural background and turn him into a Mary Sue Tokenism on legs.
Basically, replacing Ian McKellen's Gandalf in LotR with this guy and having him bounce around, playing a drum and talking exclusively in "ooga booga" noises would be seen as progressive I fear.

What I am trying to say, apparently white people have no cultural identity that could be appropriated by other people.

Edit: I don't know if it was in this thread or someplace else, but there's a shitton of stupid theories floating around the net that try to "blackwash" certain people, such as composers like Bach. The reasoning is flimsy and the argumentation bonkers, but some people are really invested in that kind of shit. Which is all the more hilarious when you realize how they ignore and trample on actually genuinely black historical figures while doing so.
 
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H3LLH4MM3R666 said:
Guess the name of this famous Peking production:

421390.jpg


(Hint: It's Shakespeare's Hamlet)

Is this cultural appropriation, or yellowwashing? Someone better coached in social justice needs to tell them that only Europeans can play European roles

But in seriousness, I love crazy localizations like this.

http://a-s-i-a-web.org/en/productions.php
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Shakespeare was a black woman, so having non-black men act in her plays is racist and soggy knee'd.
 
lolwut said:
White people have no culture and Shakespeare was a transnigger-fictkin-queerdyke so no, it's not appropriating anything. It's only wrong when white people do it.
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RomanesEuntDomus said:
If you enjoy that, look at some other (in)famous versions of "yellowwashed" Shakespeare plays:
The bad sleep well
Throne of Blood
Ran

Also, it wouldn't be tumblr-brand SJW-Bullshit if there was no hypocrisy. Replacing an originally white character with any other race is totally a-ok. Especially when you make the new character a really one-dimensional stereotype of his new cultural background and turn him into a Mary Sue Tokenism on legs.
Basically, replacing Ian McKellen's Gandalf in LotR with this guy and having him bounce around, playing a drum and talking exclusively in "ooga booga" noises would be seen as progressive I fear.

What I am trying to say, apparently white people have no cultural identity that could be appropriated by other people.

Edit: I don't know if it was in this thread or someplace else, but there's a shitton of stupid theories floating around the net that try to "blackwash" certain people, such as composers like Bach. The reasoning is flimsy and the argumentation bonkers, but some people are really invested in that kind of shit. Which is all the more hilarious when you realize how they ignore and trample on actually genuinely black historical figures while doing so.
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Maybe people should not care that much either way, specially in plays? thats why many of his plays are so easy to adapt in other backgrounds. Asking for tokenism or bitching because good actors play different racial roles are equally spergy in my opinion. Shakespeare is not 'white culture' but a universal one,

And both of you should note that plays being adapated to different cultures is not exactly a 20th century invention. Howerver, I doubt most SJW are aware of this stuff or understand that there is a difference between tokenism and creating actual diversity.
 
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MiloWuCollusion said:
Maybe people should not care that much either way, specially in plays? thats why many of his plays are so easy to adapt in other backgrounds. Asking for tokenism or bitching because good actors play different racial roles are equally spergy in my opinion. Shakespeare is not 'white culture' but a universal one,

And both of you should note that plays being adapated to different cultures is not exactly a 20th century invention.
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I wasn't criticising Kurosawa or the idea of adapting a play into a different culture in general (or insinuating it was an exclusively modern thing), when I called it "infamous" and "yellowwashing" I was trying to be ironic.
On the other hand I was remarking on the shallow nature of SJWs in that regard. They don't want an interesting adaptation, they only care about "representation", but their special brand of representation would have been called mere tokenism 20 years ago and would have been frowned upon.
To them, it seems it's not about adding a new and interesting (cultural) twist to a familiar character, it's just about taking a paintbrush to some formerly white characters face and replacing him with a one-dimensional minority stand-in.
Which is a fucking waste when you look at some adaptations of well established works in a different culture (such as "Ran" and "Throne of Blood", two movies that I absolutely love).

The whole concept of "cultural appropriation" is nonsense. For one thing it highlights how SJWs have to pigeon hole everything and on the other I can't fathom how these people can even just think for a second that culture is something that is stopping at the border of a country or even continent. The world has been globally connected for thousands of years and cultural exchange has always happened.
Hell, the Renaissance was pretty much a whole era about "culturally appropriating" ancient greek and roman culture and philosophy. It's also a prime example of temporal appropriation, I assume.
Sorry if I was drifting off into an :autism: tangent here...
 
RomanesEuntDomus said:
Which is a fucking waste when you look at some adaptations of well established works in a different culture (such as "Ran" and "Throne of Blood", two movies that I absolutely love).
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Another example would be Oldboy, which cribs heavily from Oedipus Rex (surprisingly little noted in reviews of the movie), but adapts it into a traditional Korean revenge drama.
 
MiloWuCollusion said:
And both of you should note that plays being adapated to different cultures is not exactly a 20th century invention. Howerver, I doubt most SJW are aware of this stuff or understand that there is a difference between tokenism and creating actual diversity.
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It makes you wonder what the reaction of these idiots would be if faced with a genuine example of physical racism (from whatever colour against whatever colour).

Not a dislike or or disagreement on a tumblr page ffs.

Are they so focussed on 'micro aggressions' that it would go over their heads?

Or would they genuinely curl up and die?
 
Jesus said:
It makes you wonder what the reaction of these idiots would be if faced with a genuine example of physical racism (from whatever colour against whatever colour).

Not a dislike or or disagreement on a tumblr page ffs.

Are they so focussed on 'micro aggressions' that it would go over their heads?

Or would they genuinely curl up and die?
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They wouldn't see any difference. To them a white person with dreadlocks and and a lynching are the same thing.
 
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