SJW Art and Extremes

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Why does Tumblr have an obsession with vitiligo?

  • Suicide Girl model and America's Next Top Model contestant have it, spread on Tumblr, that's why.

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  • Stop fucking asking this this question.

    Votes: 508 11.7%

  • I swear to God I will start deleting these posts.

    Votes: 154 3.5%

  • Goddammit.

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  • ACTUALLY IT'S PART OF A DEEP FALSE-FLAG OPERATION TO TURN ALL BLACK PEOPLE WHITE.

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and under it someone posted they redesign of Varesa
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"STOP DEPICTING FAT CHARACTERS ALWAYS EATING!!!!"
"THIS CHARACTER EATS ALL THE TIME SO THEY MUST BE FAT"
 
The suicide squad Harley costume is based on the Arkham series, which is pretty based on a specific character from Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines.
I think the game series nailed on the point. Jester Harley is more of animated runs. Arkham series have violent content.
 
Combining top surgery with autopsy scars is admittedly fairly clever.
Makes me wonder which ones came first.
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Making Acht/dedf1sh Nonbinary is possibly the worst thing nintendo could have done to this character.
 
Grand Duke Snowfall said:
Sometimes I forget that Covid derangement syndrome still exists.
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What really gets me is how he acts superior to people who agree with him in this.
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>the ignoramus
Imagine thinking politeness is something bad. I had to use a mask late December last year because i was sick and didn't want to end up sneezing on the food. Lots of people asked about my well being, those guys are so stuck on their victim complex that this offends them

They are in fact sick people
 
Kiwilurk said:
Haven't read those comics but there is this obsession with not having "real bad guys" in stories anymore.
They always have to be "misunderstood/misguided misfits". Villains are not allowed to just be Evil for Evil's sake. they always have to have tragedy that makes them sympathetic or "the true good guys of the story"
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The same goes for good guys to an extent: all morally grey antiheroes or heroes who turn into villains. It reflects the drab nihilism of the people behind these trends.
 
Crex Crex said:
The same goes for good guys to an extent: all morally grey antiheroes or heroes who turn into villains. It reflects the drab nihilism of the people behind these trends.
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There's this thought that permeates a lot of this bad writing, that villains have a reasonable point. They want something to change and are trying to enact change outside the traditional means. But when you water a villain down that much, you just get a rebel, which is what these people identify themselves with. The thing with villains is IF they have a valid point, they go way too far to achieve it and cause more harm than doing things the right way would've done. Otherwise, their point ISN'T valid. They don't have all the information, they don't trust other actors in the situation, or they want something that fundamentally won't work after they achieve it.
Let's say you have a villain whose dad, the mayor, neglected him as a kid, so now that he's an adult he's going to kill his dad and take over the precious city his dad loved so much. Good writing has the villain not care how the system actually works, not care about running a city, not care about healing from his pain, or even understand his dad's POV. The hero comes in and shows the villain why his plan will fail when he achieves what he's out to get, but the villain refuses to accept that and fights the hero. Villain loses, hero wins, villain goes to jail. Good writing.
The shitty modern version would be that the villain has a point, and shows the hero that the city is actually really poorly managed, and the villain knows exactly how to take care of it, and the hero is a stupid lackey for the mayor who only cares about looking good. The hero is actually a bumbling idiot who doesn't know how to refute that without looking guilty of it, everyone's on the villain's side, and the hero only wins because they're stronger and now everyone hates the hero, who has to doubt whether or not he did the right thing not letting a mentally ill man kill his father and usurp town politics.

anyway thread tax. Not super sjw but close enough.
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Chromeo said:
There's this thought that permeates a lot of this bad writing, that villains have a reasonable point. They want something to change and are trying to enact change outside the traditional means. But when you water a villain down that much, you just get a rebel, which is what these people identify themselves with. The thing with villains is IF they have a valid point, they go way too far to achieve it and cause more harm than doing things the right way would've done. Otherwise, their point ISN'T valid.
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You know you can have an antagonist who isn't a villain, and a protagonist who isn't a hero right? You can have villainous protags and heroic antags. The problem is more with characters who are wrongly labeled as "heroes" or "villains" simply for being assigned the protag/antag role regardless of their actual actions and goals.

You can have the protag and antag with the same goal, but different methods in how to achieve it which drives the conflict of the story.

There are also stories where the character (protag/antag) are just given what the want, and watch as their very goal destroy themselves and everyone they hold dear and some more. By the time the story ends, the char wishes they were dead or at least not have the goal in the first place.

After all, not every story has to be black and white. I love some morally grey story, if they're done right.
 
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Chromeo said:
There's this thought that permeates a lot of this bad writing, that villains have a reasonable point. They want something to change and are trying to enact change outside the traditional means. But when you water a villain down that much, you just get a rebel, which is what these people identify themselves with. The thing with villains is IF they have a valid point, they go way too far to achieve it and cause more harm than doing things the right way would've done. Otherwise, their point ISN'T valid. They don't have all the information, they don't trust other actors in the situation, or they want something that fundamentally won't work after they achieve it.
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Not sure about comics but I've noticed films (especially Disney) also have this weird obsession with twist villains. Don't get me wrong, twist villains can work, but they've done it so much to the point where as soon as the main character meets someone who is overly nice to them, you can just pretty much say "They're the villain". Its fine to teach kids to be cautious with people that you've just met, but its getting to the point where someone said that with how many twist villains there are, its going to teach kids to basically not trust anyone who is just a nice person. Really, twist villains also proves Crex Crex's point about the drab nihilism of the people behind these trends.
 
Chromeo said:
There's this thought that permeates a lot of this bad writing, that villains have a reasonable point. They want something to change and are trying to enact change outside the traditional means. But when you water a villain down that much, you just get a rebel, which is what these people identify themselves with.
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I'd say part of that issue stems from the setting sometimes. One of the most criticized parts of RWBY was the racism allegory with the Faunus, but the only group in that show that was actually trying to combat bigotry was a violent terrorist organization. When the only people pointing out the flaws in society are the villains, it makes it hard to take the message seriously.
 
Miss Violet Beauregarde said:
You know you can have an antagonist who isn't a villain, and a protagonist who isn't a hero right? You can have villainous protags and heroic antags. The problem is more with characters who are wrongly labeled as "heroes" or "villains" simply for being assigned the protag/antag role regardless of their actual actions and goals.
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I get that, and agree, I just happened to be thinking of capeshit specifically since this conversation started with Harley Quinn, hence heroes and villains.
Miss Violet Beauregarde said:
After all, not every story has to be black and white. I love some morally grey story, if they're done right.
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Rate me a doomer but it feels like nobody can write morally grey anymore.
 
Miss Violet Beauregarde said:
You're just looking at westernshit. Try looking at the more... Eastern stuff. At the very least something that doesn't come from america.
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I have to be honest, I'm tired of the "just watch anime" response. I want good media from my own country, where I don't feel like I have to do research to understand the weird foreign shit that's just structural in other shows. Just the basic cultural stuff like how school is structured and what is/isn't considered appropriate for certain ages is weird enough to get used to, but even the storytelling is different over there.
Western protagonists win despite the odds, and you know generally how any story is going to go because that's just how XYZ story goes! But every time I watch anime, some random shit always happens and the character just fails and has to try again harder the next time. Then while I'm over here all surprised, some fucking weeb is in the corner like "ah yes this is the Whatever Arc, this is when the protagonist does blablabla," and they're a master of fucking Japanese art and storytelling and know everything about everything, so I'm just left sitting here feeling like a complete idiot. Meanwhile some 14 year old girl flashed her panties at the camera and some other guy got his head exploded in a show made for 10 year olds.
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Walnut Pound Cake said:
That's instantly where my brain went, too. Even ignoring the tranny, everything about the comic is tumblr personified from the hideous art, "fashion", and story. They even had the tearful confession and acceptance bit. Because when you think of acceptance, the Misfits fit the bill, right?
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Blaze looks like he's on his way to 41-land.

Also I don't understand when I see idiots making up strawmans about people not viewing Clawdeen as black. First off, who gives a fuck? 2nd, she looks like a dog nigger already so...

I say that as someone who likes old school Monster High but fucking despises 90% of the fans. It seems the only ones I can tolerate are the ungodly unapologetically gay guys that drool over the G1 dolls. Btw Frankie is not a they/them she's just some green Frankenstein bitch ok? OKAY??
Tldr strawmans and MH fans are retarded.
 
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