even for a genderbent, this would be p shite
shaggy is a messy and most likely constantly high slob, why is she so well dressed, clean and conventionally attractive?
also i see a lot of people tag/caption their weirdo art with "u guys MADE me do this! this chara is ____ now because YOU DIDNT WANT THEM TO BE! HA!"
everyone who gets offended at that outside of elementary schoolers and tumblr children, should probably reevaluate themselves
even for a genderbent, this would be p shite
shaggy is a messy and most likely constantly high slob, why is she so well dressed, clean and conventionally attractive?
also i see a lot of people tag/caption their weirdo art with "u guys MADE me do this! this chara is ____ now because YOU DIDNT WANT THEM TO BE! HA!"
everyone who gets offended at that outside of elementary schoolers and tumblr children, should probably reevaluate themselves
The fantastic representation in these shows is a clunky ship that got shoehorned in at the last second to make the absolute worst section of the fandom that's responsible for harassment of countless others happy, and a person whose whole personality seems to be "ooh, I'm cool and edgy and have I mentioned I'm genderfluid today????"
Not sjw art itself but i want to talk about this here cause i think it's relevant. For those who dont know, the indie game Dont Starve released a DLC called Hamlet a while ago, it added 2 new characters, one of them is named Warbucks and he looks like this:
He is kinda of an old explorer, and he starts with some treasure hunting items, gets a sanity bonus by carrying coins but loses sanity when eating non cooked dishes. Overall the playerbase found his design okay but didnt like him for having very boring abilities that are useless outside of the Hamlet dlc.
But that doesnt sound so bad right? At least until the devs (Klei) decided to remove him from the game a few days ago without notice and add another character named wormwood who has plant powers. But why did they do that? They eventually explained on the forums that he was "culturally problematic".
Sounds stupid but i know the forums can be pretty stupid from experience (they nerfed one character who was already bad because a few people thought he was op). Turns out there was some complaints about his skin color and his clothes being racist, as if Warbucks was some sort if imperialist/colonialist.
Either way, some forum users didnt like that and pointed out the "irony" in removing the character because people complained about his skin color.
Others defended Klei for removing him for his "extreme darwinism"
And btw Warbucks did have some lines about hunting and calling mobs "savage" but they were changed very fast to make him him sound more discovery than conquest.
The forums would then turn into arguments about who is more offended than the other.
AND YES, someone non unironically said his skin color was offensive because it reminds them of Trump.
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I know it's not bad art per se but i think it's interesting because this is the first time i see a game dev surgically remove a playable character for being "offensive". Shows that people will always find a reason to be offended.
Not sjw art itself but i want to talk about this here cause i think it's relevant. For those who dont know, the indie game Dont Starve released a DLC called Hamlet a while ago, it added 2 new characters, one of them is named Warbucks and he looks like this:
He is kinda of an old explorer, and he starts with some treasure hunting items, gets a sanity bonus by carrying coins but loses sanity when eating non cooked dishes. Overall the playerbase found his design okay but didnt like him for having very boring abilities that are useless outside of the Hamlet dlc.
But that doesnt sound so bad right? At least until the devs (Klei) decided to remove him from the game a few days ago without notice and add another character named wormwood who has plant powers. But why did they do that? They eventually explained on the forums that he was "culturally problematic".
Sounds stupid but i know the forums can be pretty stupid from experience (they nerfed one character who was already bad because a few people thought he was op). Turns out there was some complaints about his skin color and his clothes being racist, as if Warbucks was some sort if imperialist/colonialist.
Either way, some forum users didnt like that and pointed out the "irony" in removing the character because people complained about his skin color.
And btw Warbucks did have some lines about hunting and calling mobs "savage" but they were changed very fast to make him him sound more discovery than conquest.
The forums would then turn into arguments about who is more offended than the other.
AND YES, someone non unironically said his skin color was offensive because it reminds them of Trump.
I know it's not bad art per se but i think it's interesting because this is the first time i see a game dev surgically remove a playable character for being "offensive". Shows that people will always find a reason to be offended.
I had no idea it went this deep, what the fuck. I love Klei, but their userbase is fucking cancer.
I personally really liked warbucks, but I can see whyyy they decided to remove him in favor of Wormwood. : \ It's not about skin color. He just didn't really have that special klei touch. And of course, these people make it about skin color
Not sjw art itself but i want to talk about this here cause i think it's relevant. For those who dont know, the indie game Dont Starve released a DLC called Hamlet a while ago, it added 2 new characters, one of them is named Warbucks and he looks like this:
He is kinda of an old explorer, and he starts with some treasure hunting items, gets a sanity bonus by carrying coins but loses sanity when eating non cooked dishes. Overall the playerbase found his design okay but didnt like him for having very boring abilities that are useless outside of the Hamlet dlc.
But that doesnt sound so bad right? At least until the devs (Klei) decided to remove him from the game a few days ago without notice and add another character named wormwood who has plant powers. But why did they do that? They eventually explained on the forums that he was "culturally problematic".
Sounds stupid but i know the forums can be pretty stupid from experience (they nerfed one character who was already bad because a few people thought he was op). Turns out there was some complaints about his skin color and his clothes being racist, as if Warbucks was some sort if imperialist/colonialist.
Either way, some forum users didnt like that and pointed out the "irony" in removing the character because people complained about his skin color.
And btw Warbucks did have some lines about hunting and calling mobs "savage" but they were changed very fast to make him him sound more discovery than conquest.
The forums would then turn into arguments about who is more offended than the other.
AND YES, someone non unironically said his skin color was offensive because it reminds them of Trump.
I know it's not bad art per se but i think it's interesting because this is the first time i see a game dev surgically remove a playable character for being "offensive". Shows that people will always find a reason to be offended.
Oh wow..
I just watched a video from Razinghell about the new character, Wormwood, and I, atleast, didn't hear him mention about this loss, because he probably didn't know either or I just didn't hear it, but;
I liked Warbucks, and maybe he even could have had something to to with lore but eh?
And you know, aren't all.. of the characters in Ds/Dst ... european? White? You know it's true, but just because their skin is "paper white", you know it couldn't possibly be!
And what's the problem with Walani and his buddies being I guess, gray tone? It just shows that they really are "poc" and such on, and also I think it has to to with color scheme too, like in hamlet, there so many bright colors? Not sure..
I did post some pictures of SDragonhead's art and whatever and somebody answered that "hopefully they are not going to follow these SJW opinions/ politically correct way" something like that? (edit: Didn't find it but I agree. )
and... they are? They really are?
And having characters that actually are interesting and if it's from historical era, then why not be THAT way?
I'm just afraid this is just the beginning, but I hope it'll stop right here, how much are they going to censor?
They are probably giving fuck just because they don't want the playerbase gone I would assume, but would it really be gone though...
How many people even complained about it, I haven't seen anything and are their reasons, even good reasons? It just convinced them like that, easy.
edit:
And yeah I kinda agree with Sister, though I feel like he still is fitting for Hamlet?
And I'm not sure how Wormwood is more interesting than him? Atleast, like I said earlier, Warbucks could have had something related to the lore, which makes him interesting?
Wormwood is just a challenge character isn't it?
edit II:
One of the developers, Jason, initially explained that they didn’t think Warbucks was very interesting, hence they decided to remove him, writing…
“We weren’t very happy with how Warbucks was working out. While trying to find ways to make him work, we decided that he just wasn’t as interesting as we would like, and so we’ve made the decision to start from scratch with a new character. You can still continue your Warbucks saves as his files will not be removed from the game, but he will no longer be in the official lineup of starting characters. “
Atleast they didn't remove his files, (maybe) and when I look at DS workshop the first ones to pop in is "Character enabler & disabler"second mod , and "Enable Warbucks, Disable Wormwood". Steam Workshop
But this was the final, and "real reason", which was shown already here;
“Ultimately we felt Warbucks was both culturally problematic and not also very interesting to play so we decided to start over. We understand some people may like aspects of him, and perhaps we will bring some of those aspects back one day. In the meantime, we’ve decided to move on.
“In general, we throw away a lot of our work in order to make something we’re happy with, but generally that’s before it gets released even in Beta. […]”
In fact, even ResetEra disagreed with Klei’s decision to remove Warbucks, and they’re an extremist community filled with Social Justice Warriors.
Oddly enough, a few of the members even defended his “problematic” aspects.
Oh wow..
I just watched a video from Razinghell about the new character, Wormwood, and I, atleast, didn't hear him mention about this loss, because he probably didn't know either or I just didn't hear it, but;
I liked Warbucks, and maybe he even could have had something to to with lore but eh?
And you know, aren't all.. of the characters in Ds/Dst ... european? White? You know it's true, but just because their skin is "paper white", you know it couldn't possibly be!
And what's the problem with Walani and his buddies being I guess, gray tone? It just shows that they really are "poc" and such on, and also I think it has to to with color scheme too, like in hamlet, there so many bright colors? Not sure..
I did post some pictures of SDragonhead's art and whatever and somebody answered that "hopefully they are not going to follow these SJW opinions/ politically correct way" something like that? (edit: Didn't find it but I agree. )
and... they are? They really are?
And having characters that actually are interesting and if it's from historical era, then why not be THAT way?
I'm just afraid this is just the beginning, but I hope it'll stop right here, how much are they going to censor?
They are probably giving fuck just because they don't want the playerbase gone I would assume, but would it really be gone though...
How many people even complained about it, I haven't seen anything and are their reasons, even good reasons? It just convinced them like that, easy.
edit:
And yeah I kinda agree with Sister, though I feel like he still is fitting for Hamlet?
And I'm not sure how Wormwood is more interesting than him? Atleast, like I said earlier, Warbucks could have had something related to the lore, which makes him interesting?
Wormwood is just a challenge character isn't it?
edit II:
One of the developers, Jason, initially explained that they didn’t think Warbucks was very interesting, hence they decided to remove him, writing…
“We weren’t very happy with how Warbucks was working out. While trying to find ways to make him work, we decided that he just wasn’t as interesting as we would like, and so we’ve made the decision to start from scratch with a new character. You can still continue your Warbucks saves as his files will not be removed from the game, but he will no longer be in the official lineup of starting characters. “
Atleast they didn't remove his files, (maybe) and when I look at DS workshop the first ones to pop in is "Character enabler & disabler"second mod , and "Enable Warbucks, Disable Wormwood". Steam Workshop
But this was the final, and "real reason", which was shown already here;
“Ultimately we felt Warbucks was both culturally problematic and not also very interesting to play so we decided to start over. We understand some people may like aspects of him, and perhaps we will bring some of those aspects back one day. In the meantime, we’ve decided to move on.
“In general, we throw away a lot of our work in order to make something we’re happy with, but generally that’s before it gets released even in Beta. […]”
In fact, even ResetEra disagreed with Klei’s decision to remove Warbucks, and they’re an extremist community filled with Social Justice Warriors.
Oddly enough, a few of the members even defended his “problematic” aspects.
From a business standpoint I can see why they are catering to the sjw's. They are a very vocal community and could ruin the reputation of the game. PewDiePie is in a lot of drama as of recent times due to some sjw's just not liking him, and although they are different things, they might find a way to throw don't starve in the "problematic pit" as well
From a business standpoint I can see why they are catering to the sjw's. They are a very vocal community and could ruin the reputation of the game. PewDiePie is in a lot of drama as of recent times due to some sjw's just not liking him, and although they are different things, they might find a way to throw don't starve in the "problematic pit" as well
Unfortunately for them, that "vocal community" doesn't always translate well to actual sales since many of these complainers don't actually play games at all. Look what happened with Kingdom Come: Deliverance. The vocal community raised a stink about no black people being in the game, the developer stood his ground and didn't give into their demands. To SJWs, the game and developer are "problematic" but the game was quite successful upon launch despite the attempt of the woke to try and smear it into obscurity. Games tend to benefit from these kinds of smear campaigns rather than getting ignored as they'd like. Tumblr and ResetEra can sit there crowing how "influential" they are in their little hugboxes, but most gamers don't give two shits about their petty crusades to make things woke.
I know it's not bad art per se but i think it's interesting because this is the first time i see a game dev surgically remove a playable character for being "offensive". Shows that people will always find a reason to be offended.
Wow the only thing I can think of that's close to this is when The Adventure Zone D&D podcast changed the skin colours of their protagonists in their graphic novel before it released because the fandom was mad that the 4 white male creators were originally represented as 4 white men, which contradicted their headcanon and horrendous fanart that they were disabled PoC gay mexican-jews. This attempt at appeasement only flamed the outrage further because they changed 2 of the white boys to blue and black. This was problematic because blue skin fails at true representation and is a copout, and the backstory of the one that was now black was that he's a deadbeat dad, so it's now become racist by making him black. It was so fun to watch that play out.
Tumblr will kick up a stink if someone ships an adult with a minor if they're both guys or a guy and a girl, but there's usually radio silence if it involves lesbians.