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God he’s really off whatever meds he should be on isn’t he?
Cross post from where I put it on sideshows but these are the documents Esqueer_ claims are the Cass report. I haven’t had chance to read it all yet.
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Cross post from where I put it on sideshows but these are the documents Esqueer_ claims are the Cass report. I haven’t had chance to read it all yet.
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Dismantling men's spaces by Democrats is decades old, and now the shoe is on the other foot. Using women's interests against men to win elections is decades old.
What I'm saying is "voting for any Democrat is a vote to keep things unfair in favor of women." Now the lefties women elected are doing the same to women and I can't find much sympathy.
And divorce and family law. And burden of proof laws, and Title IX tribunals. The list of things women didn't care about until it was pointed at them goes on and on.
We elect representatives to government to write our laws. There's "literally never been a vote for troons to be allowed in women's spaces" because that's not how American government works. Do you know your own government or do you just show up and check blue boxes every two to four years?
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He might simply be a drunk. It would certainly fit with the endless self-pity, fits of rage etc.... Even beyond the troonery he is after all an unemployed divorced man.
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At least she doesn't have an Orangery. How perverse would that be?
And there's the leak! I am never wrong. If I ever look like I am, it's someone else's fault.
Looks like it's legit from a quick skim through.
e: Further reading suggests it's not the complete document. Most of is is older papers, with maybe just the opinion for the BMJ by Cass being recent.
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Tomorrows headlines of the Telegraph out, apparently the full report is 388 pages and this is nowhere near that. It looks like this may have just been some press briefings.
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It might have been an attempt at narrative control, though I'm not sure how effective it could be.
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Don't you see? Helen Joyce has a conservatory. Conserv...ATIVE!!! Conserva... TORY!! She's clearly part of the eeevil trans genocide facilitated by the arch-TERF of TERF Island, Rishi Sunak himself!
Just like wearing a black T-shirt with white font on the front makes you a Nazi, because of Eric Clapton. It's all out there, wake up, sheeple!
I mean, I don't think there's any evidence to suggest this, but, on the other hand, I have never met a tranny without a substance abuse issue.
Just like wearing a black T-shirt with white font on the front makes you a Nazi, because of Eric Clapton. It's all out there, wake up, sheeple!
I mean, I don't think there's any evidence to suggest this, but, on the other hand, I have never met a tranny without a substance abuse issue.
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If he wants to be stalky, this is the address that was listed for his company a few pages back. No idea if it is his, his lawyer's, a correspondence PO Box, or whatever. And honestly I don't care. You might note that it does however have, ahem, a pool in the back garden. Just what you need in those stifling North West spring evenings.
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Obviously since the report is 388 pages long, I’ve barely made a dent in reading it. This is doing the rounds amongst the TERFs though.
Gender clinics thwarted any attempts of conducting the long term study Sajid Javid ordered. I bet they are regretting that now. Since their “WPATH says it’s ok” excuse is gone.
Gender clinics thwarted any attempts of conducting the long term study Sajid Javid ordered. I bet they are regretting that now. Since their “WPATH says it’s ok” excuse is gone.
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TLDR, but I extracted the recommendations and bolded the ones I found interesting:
Recommendation 1: Given the complexity of this population, these services must operate to the same standards as other services seeing children and young people with complex presentations and/or additional risk factors. There should be a nominated medical practitioner (paediatrician/child psychiatrist) who takes overall clinical responsibility for patient safety within the service.
Recommendation 2: Clinicians should apply the assessment framework developed by the Review’s Clinical Expert Group, to ensure children/young people referred to NHS gender services receive a holistic assessment of their needs to inform an individualised care plan. This should include screening for neurodevelopmental conditions, including autism spectrum disorder, and a mental health assessment. The framework should be kept under review and evolve to reflect emerging evidence.
Recommendation 3: Standard evidence based psychological and psychopharmacological treatment approaches should be used to support the management of the associated distress and cooccurring conditions. This should include support for parents/carers and siblings as appropriate.
Recommendation 4: When families/carers are making decisions about social transition of pre-pubertal children, services should ensure that they can be seen as early as possible by a clinical professional with relevant experience.
Recommendation 5: NHS England, working with DHSC should direct the gender clinics to participate in the data linkage study within the lifetime of the current statutory instrument. NHS England’s Research Oversight Board should take responsibility for interpreting the findings of the research.
Recommendation 6: The evidence base underpinning medical and non-medical interventions in this clinical area must be improved. Following our earlier recommendation to establish a puberty blocker trial, which has been taken forward by NHS England, we further recommend a full programme of research be established. This should look at the characteristics, interventions and outcomes of every young person presenting to the NHS gender services.
• The puberty blocker trial should be part of a programme of research which also evaluates outcomes of psychosocial interventions and masculinising/feminising hormones.
• Consent should routinely be sought for all children and young people for enrolment in a research study with follow-up into adulthood.
Recommendation 7: Long-standing gender incongruence should be an essential pre-requisite for medical treatment but is only one aspect of deciding whether a medical pathway is the right option for an individual.
Recommendation 8: NHS England should review the policy on masculinising/feminising hormones. The option to provide masculinising/feminising hormones from age 16 is available, but the Review would recommend extreme caution. There should be a clear clinical rationale for providing hormones at this stage rather than waiting until an individual reaches 18.
Recommendation 9: Every case considered for medical treatment should be discussed at a national Multi Disciplinary Team (MDT) hosted by the National Provider Collaborative replacing the Multi Professional Review Group (MPRG).
Recommendation 10: All children should be offered fertility counselling and preservation prior to going onto a medical pathway.
Recommendation 11: NHS England and service providers should work to develop the regional multi-site service networks as soon as possible. This could be based on a lead provider model, where NHS England delegates commissioning responsibility to the regional services to subcontract locally to providers in their region.
Recommendation 12: The National Provider Collaborative should be established without delay.
Recommendation 13: To increase the available workforce and maintain a broader clinical lens, joint contracts should be utilised to support staff to work across the network and across different services.
Recommendation 14: NHS England, through its Workforce Training and Education function, must ensure requirements for this service area are built into overall workforce planning for adolescent services.
Recommendation 15: NHS England should commission a lead organisation to establish a consortium of relevant professional bodies to:
• develop a competency framework
• identify gaps in professional training programmes
• develop a suite of training materials to supplement professional competencies, appropriate to their clinical field and level. This should include a module on the holistic assessment framework and approach to formulation and care planning.
Recommendation 16: The National Provider Collaborative should coordinate development of evidence-based information and resources for young people, parents and carers. Consideration should be given as to whether this should be a centrally hosted NHS online resource.
Recommendation 17: A core national data set should be defined for both specialist and designated local specialist services.
Recommendation 18: The national infrastructure should be put in place to manage data collection and audit and this should be used use this to drive continuous quality improvement and research in an active learning environment.
Recommendation 19: NHS England and the National Institute for Health and Care Research (NIHR) should ensure that the academic and administrative infrastructure to support a programme of clinically-based research is embedded into the regional centres.
Recommendation 20: A unified research strategy should be established across the Regional Centres, co-ordinated through the National Provider Collaborative and the Research Oversight Group, so that all data collected are utilised to best effect and for sufficient numbers of individuals to be meaningful.
Recommendation 21: To ensure that services are operating to the highest standards of evidence the National Institute for Health and Care Research (NIHR) should commission a living systematic review to inform the evolving clinical approach.
Recommendation 22: Within each regional network, a separate pathway should be established for pre-pubertal children and their families. Providers should ensure that pre-pubertal children and their parents/carers are prioritised for early discussion with a professional with relevant experience.
Recommendation 23: NHS England should establish follow-through services for 17-25-year-olds at each of the Regional Centres, either by extending the range of the regional children and young people’s service or through linked services, to ensure continuity of care and support at a potentially vulnerable stage in their journey. This will also allow clinical, and research follow up data to be collected.
Recommendation 24: Given that the changing demographic presenting to children and young people’s services is reflected in a change of presentations to adult services, NHS England should consider bringing forward any planned update of the adult service specification and review the model of care and operating procedures.
Recommendation 25: NHS England should ensure there is provision for people considering detransition, recognising that they may not wish to reengage with the services whose care they were previously under.
Recommendation 26: The Department of Health and Social Care and NHS England should consider the implications of private healthcare on any future requests to the NHS for treatment, monitoring and/or involvement in research. This needs to be clearly communicated to patients and private providers.
Recommendation 27: The Department of Health and Social Care should work with the General Pharmaceutical Council to define the dispensing responsibilities of pharmacists of private prescriptions and consider other statutory solutions that would prevent inappropriate overseas prescribing.
Recommendation 28: The NHS and the Department of Health and Social Care needs to review the process and circumstances of changing NHS numbers and find solutions to address the clinical and research implications.
Recommendation 29: NHS England should develop an implementation plan with clear milestones towards the future clinical and service model. This should have board level oversight and be developed collaboratively with those responsible for the health of children and young people more generally to support greater integration to meet the wide-ranging needs of complex adolescents.
Recommendation 30: NHS England should establish robust and comprehensive contract management and audit processes and requirements around the collection of data for the provision of these services. These should be adhered to by the providers responsible for delivering these services for children and young people
Recommendation 31: Professional bodies must come together to provide leadership and guidance on the clinical management of this population taking account of the findings of this report.
Recommendation 32: Wider guidance applicable to all NHS services should be developed to support providers and commissioners to ensure that innovation is encouraged but that there is appropriate scrutiny and clinical governance to avoid incremental creep of practice in the absence of evidence.
Recommendation 2: Clinicians should apply the assessment framework developed by the Review’s Clinical Expert Group, to ensure children/young people referred to NHS gender services receive a holistic assessment of their needs to inform an individualised care plan. This should include screening for neurodevelopmental conditions, including autism spectrum disorder, and a mental health assessment. The framework should be kept under review and evolve to reflect emerging evidence.
Recommendation 3: Standard evidence based psychological and psychopharmacological treatment approaches should be used to support the management of the associated distress and cooccurring conditions. This should include support for parents/carers and siblings as appropriate.
Recommendation 4: When families/carers are making decisions about social transition of pre-pubertal children, services should ensure that they can be seen as early as possible by a clinical professional with relevant experience.
Recommendation 5: NHS England, working with DHSC should direct the gender clinics to participate in the data linkage study within the lifetime of the current statutory instrument. NHS England’s Research Oversight Board should take responsibility for interpreting the findings of the research.
Recommendation 6: The evidence base underpinning medical and non-medical interventions in this clinical area must be improved. Following our earlier recommendation to establish a puberty blocker trial, which has been taken forward by NHS England, we further recommend a full programme of research be established. This should look at the characteristics, interventions and outcomes of every young person presenting to the NHS gender services.
• The puberty blocker trial should be part of a programme of research which also evaluates outcomes of psychosocial interventions and masculinising/feminising hormones.
• Consent should routinely be sought for all children and young people for enrolment in a research study with follow-up into adulthood.
Recommendation 7: Long-standing gender incongruence should be an essential pre-requisite for medical treatment but is only one aspect of deciding whether a medical pathway is the right option for an individual.
Recommendation 8: NHS England should review the policy on masculinising/feminising hormones. The option to provide masculinising/feminising hormones from age 16 is available, but the Review would recommend extreme caution. There should be a clear clinical rationale for providing hormones at this stage rather than waiting until an individual reaches 18.
Recommendation 9: Every case considered for medical treatment should be discussed at a national Multi Disciplinary Team (MDT) hosted by the National Provider Collaborative replacing the Multi Professional Review Group (MPRG).
Recommendation 10: All children should be offered fertility counselling and preservation prior to going onto a medical pathway.
Recommendation 11: NHS England and service providers should work to develop the regional multi-site service networks as soon as possible. This could be based on a lead provider model, where NHS England delegates commissioning responsibility to the regional services to subcontract locally to providers in their region.
Recommendation 12: The National Provider Collaborative should be established without delay.
Recommendation 13: To increase the available workforce and maintain a broader clinical lens, joint contracts should be utilised to support staff to work across the network and across different services.
Recommendation 14: NHS England, through its Workforce Training and Education function, must ensure requirements for this service area are built into overall workforce planning for adolescent services.
Recommendation 15: NHS England should commission a lead organisation to establish a consortium of relevant professional bodies to:
• develop a competency framework
• identify gaps in professional training programmes
• develop a suite of training materials to supplement professional competencies, appropriate to their clinical field and level. This should include a module on the holistic assessment framework and approach to formulation and care planning.
Recommendation 16: The National Provider Collaborative should coordinate development of evidence-based information and resources for young people, parents and carers. Consideration should be given as to whether this should be a centrally hosted NHS online resource.
Recommendation 17: A core national data set should be defined for both specialist and designated local specialist services.
Recommendation 18: The national infrastructure should be put in place to manage data collection and audit and this should be used use this to drive continuous quality improvement and research in an active learning environment.
Recommendation 19: NHS England and the National Institute for Health and Care Research (NIHR) should ensure that the academic and administrative infrastructure to support a programme of clinically-based research is embedded into the regional centres.
Recommendation 20: A unified research strategy should be established across the Regional Centres, co-ordinated through the National Provider Collaborative and the Research Oversight Group, so that all data collected are utilised to best effect and for sufficient numbers of individuals to be meaningful.
Recommendation 21: To ensure that services are operating to the highest standards of evidence the National Institute for Health and Care Research (NIHR) should commission a living systematic review to inform the evolving clinical approach.
Recommendation 22: Within each regional network, a separate pathway should be established for pre-pubertal children and their families. Providers should ensure that pre-pubertal children and their parents/carers are prioritised for early discussion with a professional with relevant experience.
Recommendation 23: NHS England should establish follow-through services for 17-25-year-olds at each of the Regional Centres, either by extending the range of the regional children and young people’s service or through linked services, to ensure continuity of care and support at a potentially vulnerable stage in their journey. This will also allow clinical, and research follow up data to be collected.
Recommendation 24: Given that the changing demographic presenting to children and young people’s services is reflected in a change of presentations to adult services, NHS England should consider bringing forward any planned update of the adult service specification and review the model of care and operating procedures.
Recommendation 25: NHS England should ensure there is provision for people considering detransition, recognising that they may not wish to reengage with the services whose care they were previously under.
Recommendation 26: The Department of Health and Social Care and NHS England should consider the implications of private healthcare on any future requests to the NHS for treatment, monitoring and/or involvement in research. This needs to be clearly communicated to patients and private providers.
Recommendation 27: The Department of Health and Social Care should work with the General Pharmaceutical Council to define the dispensing responsibilities of pharmacists of private prescriptions and consider other statutory solutions that would prevent inappropriate overseas prescribing.
Recommendation 28: The NHS and the Department of Health and Social Care needs to review the process and circumstances of changing NHS numbers and find solutions to address the clinical and research implications.
Recommendation 29: NHS England should develop an implementation plan with clear milestones towards the future clinical and service model. This should have board level oversight and be developed collaboratively with those responsible for the health of children and young people more generally to support greater integration to meet the wide-ranging needs of complex adolescents.
Recommendation 30: NHS England should establish robust and comprehensive contract management and audit processes and requirements around the collection of data for the provision of these services. These should be adhered to by the providers responsible for delivering these services for children and young people
Recommendation 31: Professional bodies must come together to provide leadership and guidance on the clinical management of this population taking account of the findings of this report.
Recommendation 32: Wider guidance applicable to all NHS services should be developed to support providers and commissioners to ensure that innovation is encouraged but that there is appropriate scrutiny and clinical governance to avoid incremental creep of practice in the absence of evidence.
7.19 Several longitudinal studies have found that adolescent pornography consumption is associated with subsequent increased sexual, relational and body dissatisfaction (Hanson, 2020).
7.20 Research commentators recommend more investigation into consumption of online pornography and gender dysphoria is needed. Some researchers (Nadrowski, 2023) suggest that exploration with gender-questioning youth should include consideration of their engagement with pornographic content.
(...)
8.26 Although it is certainly the case that there is much greater acceptance of trans identities, particularly amongst Generation Z, and this may account for some of the increase in numbers, this is not an adequate explanation for the overall phenomenon. Arguments that counter this explanation include:
• the exponential increase in numbers within a 5-year timeframe is very much faster than would be expected for the normal evolution of acceptance of a minority group;
• the rapid increase in numbers presenting to gender services across Western populations;
• the change in prevalence from birth-registered males to birth-registered females. The current profile of transgender presentations is unlike that in any prior historical period;
• the sharp differences in the numbers identifying as transgender and non-binary and presenting to gender services in Generation Z and younger Millennials compared to those over the age of 25-30. It would be expected that older adults would also show some signal of distress regarding their gender, even if they felt unable to ‘come out’;
• the failure to explain the increase in complex presentations.
(...)
8.32 In terms of narratives and case histories, the Review received several reports from parents of birth-registered females that their child had been through a period of trans identification before recognising that they were cisgender same-sex attracted. Similar narratives were heard from cisgender adults (some same sex-attracted and some heterosexual) regarding early experiences of gender-questioning.
8.33 Clinicians and parents reported that gay students are still being stigmatised and bullied in school and there is sometimes a perception that there is less validation for them than for trans pupils. However, the Review also heard multiple testimonies attesting that having a diverse gender identity is a difficult path with young people subjected to bullying and abuse.
(...)
8.46 The generational changes in understanding and beliefs about the mutability of gender form the basis for many young people’s understanding of their own experiences and the experiences of those around them.
8.47 It is the norm that all experiences of health and illness are understood through the norms and beliefs of an individual’s trusted social group. Thus, it is more likely that bodily discomfort, mental distress or perceived differences from peers may be interpreted through this cultural lens.
8.48 More specifically, gender-questioning young people and their parents have spoken to the Review about online information that describes normal adolescent discomfort as a possible sign of being trans and that particular influencers have had a substantial impact on their child’s beliefs and understanding of their gender.
8.49 The Review’s focus groups with gender diverse young people found that “Young people struggle to find trusted sources of information, favouring lived experience social media accounts over mainstream news outlets”.
Quotes:
"I've always found that talking to people who have life experience is the best, either on like forums or like places like Reddit or on social media and other places"
"A lot of trans people make YouTube videos which I think is a [major] informational source for a lot of people, and that's mainly where I get my information from, not so much professional services."
"I have to spend time picking apart information and assessing it. I feel like I always have to be sceptical of the information I read, and really think about why they are writing it."
7.20 Research commentators recommend more investigation into consumption of online pornography and gender dysphoria is needed. Some researchers (Nadrowski, 2023) suggest that exploration with gender-questioning youth should include consideration of their engagement with pornographic content.
(...)
8.26 Although it is certainly the case that there is much greater acceptance of trans identities, particularly amongst Generation Z, and this may account for some of the increase in numbers, this is not an adequate explanation for the overall phenomenon. Arguments that counter this explanation include:
• the exponential increase in numbers within a 5-year timeframe is very much faster than would be expected for the normal evolution of acceptance of a minority group;
• the rapid increase in numbers presenting to gender services across Western populations;
• the change in prevalence from birth-registered males to birth-registered females. The current profile of transgender presentations is unlike that in any prior historical period;
• the sharp differences in the numbers identifying as transgender and non-binary and presenting to gender services in Generation Z and younger Millennials compared to those over the age of 25-30. It would be expected that older adults would also show some signal of distress regarding their gender, even if they felt unable to ‘come out’;
• the failure to explain the increase in complex presentations.
(...)
8.32 In terms of narratives and case histories, the Review received several reports from parents of birth-registered females that their child had been through a period of trans identification before recognising that they were cisgender same-sex attracted. Similar narratives were heard from cisgender adults (some same sex-attracted and some heterosexual) regarding early experiences of gender-questioning.
8.33 Clinicians and parents reported that gay students are still being stigmatised and bullied in school and there is sometimes a perception that there is less validation for them than for trans pupils. However, the Review also heard multiple testimonies attesting that having a diverse gender identity is a difficult path with young people subjected to bullying and abuse.
(...)
8.46 The generational changes in understanding and beliefs about the mutability of gender form the basis for many young people’s understanding of their own experiences and the experiences of those around them.
8.47 It is the norm that all experiences of health and illness are understood through the norms and beliefs of an individual’s trusted social group. Thus, it is more likely that bodily discomfort, mental distress or perceived differences from peers may be interpreted through this cultural lens.
8.48 More specifically, gender-questioning young people and their parents have spoken to the Review about online information that describes normal adolescent discomfort as a possible sign of being trans and that particular influencers have had a substantial impact on their child’s beliefs and understanding of their gender.
8.49 The Review’s focus groups with gender diverse young people found that “Young people struggle to find trusted sources of information, favouring lived experience social media accounts over mainstream news outlets”.
Quotes:
"I've always found that talking to people who have life experience is the best, either on like forums or like places like Reddit or on social media and other places"
"A lot of trans people make YouTube videos which I think is a [major] informational source for a lot of people, and that's mainly where I get my information from, not so much professional services."
"I have to spend time picking apart information and assessing it. I feel like I always have to be sceptical of the information I read, and really think about why they are writing it."
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Predditors as a word exists for a reason.
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You haven't properly done your reasearch on troonism until you've accepted it uncritically.
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A pool is only useful in England if it's inside a conservatory. I think he's jealous.
Hey, that's a blue Fiat 500 in the driveway:
I wonder what kind of car Willyboy drives?
The address was amended in the limited company's records to remove an erroneous line:
then again to what looks like the address of an accountant, to which a lot of companies are registered:
Looks like he registered in his own address first, then changed to a professional's address later. I think there's a very strong chance the extremely classy pool is India's.
He came close last year to having his limited company closed down, usually a consequence of failing to file accounts. Willyboy's affairs are in a mess.
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Posted this in sideshows but he just started this Gofundme no wonder he’s begging.