Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Correct. Megas were an actually interesting gimmick with long-term potential. Z-moves are a transparently lazy and boring gimmick.
The most interesting part of Z-moves were the alternate effects that status moves were given. At least they took up an item slot, which is more than you can say about any later gimmick.
 
Z-Moves suffer from an implementation problem on top of everything else. Remember Light That Burns the Sky? The move that sucks all the light from the world and throws it in a Death Ball and causes the trainer to stagger backwards? That must be the most powerful move in the game, right? Nope! It's actually less powerful than picking up a Pikachu and throwing it at someone:
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It's not even the second most powerful move.
 
I mean, this formula could honestly work for Pokemon imo. At least when it comes to the exploration and adventure element, as it could bring back a sense of wonder to the series.
And replayability.

Pokemon has always benefited from the "and then play it again with a different team" advantage, adding alternate endings seems like a logical progression.
 
Correct. Megas were an actually interesting gimmick with long-term potential. Z-moves are a transparently lazy and boring gimmick.
They were just a way to sell you mewtwo and charizard again. Everyone of them could have been their own independent thing with balanced stats but weren't. Paradox forms are just megas yet again. And I would still rather have had the time and energy spent improving neglected lines. Not just temp alt forms we'll never seen again over and over.
 
Z-Moves suffer from an implementation problem on top of everything else. Remember Light That Burns the Sky? The move that sucks all the light from the world and throws it in a Death Ball and causes the trainer to stagger backwards? That must be the most powerful move in the game, right? Nope! It's actually less powerful than picking up a Pikachu and throwing it at someone:
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It's not even the second most powerful move.
Making Pikachu the "Mascot" pokemon was a mistake.

Snorlax i can let slide because he's a complete fatass that actually hits hard, but there's no excuse for any normal pokemon to surpass any legendary.
 
Making Pikachu the "Mascot" pokemon was a mistake.

Snorlax i can let slide because he's a complete fatass that actually hits hard, but there's no excuse for any normal pokemon to surpass any legendary.
Legendaries are a mistake. Everything revolves around them all the time and it's gay. They even fuck up casual battling as everyone wants to bring 6 legendaries and you want to use your fucking Delibird and Jynx cause you used them on your play through.
 
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