Math Homework Can End Up Doing More Harm Than Good, Study Shows

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Giving pupils math homework can sometimes do more harm than good, according to a new study – particularly when the tasks involved in the work are too complex for kids to complete even with the help of their parents.

The researchers, from the University of South Australia and St Francis Xavier University in Canada, interviewed eight Canadian families, asking questions about their experiences with mathematics homework and its effects on the family.

All the families had a child in grade 3, typically aged 8 or 9, the age at which the first standardized math tests are introduced in the area where the survey was conducted. Overall, math was talked about as a subject that wasn't liked, and that involved too much extra work.

"Homework has long been accepted as a practice that reinforces children's learning and improves academic success," says Lisa O'Keeffe, a senior lecturer in mathematics education at the University of South Australia.

"But when it is too complex for a student to complete even with parent support, it raises the question as to why it was set as a homework task in the first place."

The issues identified by the study included homework being too difficult – even with parental help – as well as the work pushing back bedtimes, crossing over into family time, and causing feelings of inadequacy and frustration.

As with many subjects, approaches to teaching and learning mathematics can change over time. Parents who, as children, had been taught how to tackle problems in a different way to their kids was another frustration noted by the researchers.

As with many subjects, approaches to teaching and learning mathematics can change over time. Parents who, as children, had been taught how to tackle problems in a different way to their kids was another frustration noted by the researchers.

"Like many things, mathematics teaching has evolved over time," says O'Keeffe. "But when parents realize that their tried-and-true methods are different to those which their children are learning, it can be hard to adapt, and this can add undue pressure."

This can lead to "negativity across generations", the researchers say. Mothers in the study tended to be mostly responsible for helping with the homework – and when they also find the assignments tough, that can reinforce negative stereotypes about mathematics not being a subject in which girls "naturally excel", according to the study authors.

These negative stereotypes can have lasting impacts on their grades and career aspirations, other studies show.

Of course, the coronavirus pandemic is still fresh in everyone's minds – a time when children were often asked to study at home, and parents often had to help out when it came to completing assignments.

While this study uses a small sample of participants, the researchers say its findings match common narratives in education. They want to see more done to make sure math homework is set in an appropriate way, and that it doesn't end up putting youngsters off the subject at an early age.

"The last thing teachers want to do is disadvantage girls in developing potentially strong mathematical identities," says study author Sarah McDonald, an education lecturer at the University of South Australia. So "we need a greater understanding of homework policies and expectations."

Homework is often thought to have non-academic benefits, such as fostering independence and developing organisational skills and self-discipline, McDonald adds, although the family experiences captured in their study don't necessarily back that up.
 
$100 a month for 36 months is better than $26,000 right now - it’s $100 (small number) a month instead of $26,000 (large number). Anything else is just too complicated for poor Shaniqua. And she gets monthly checks anyway so why bother with white supremacy math?
26k now is better than 3,600 over 3 years.

that aside, a lump sum now can be utilized better than a smaller monthly payment. in lottery terms, money now is better than no money later when the state legislators freezes payouts due to budget constraints.
 
Translation: Niggers can't do math, therefore we must ban math homework.
Uneducated cattle is much easier to control, only factor that matters to the elites nowdays. That's why our education is one of the worst(and most expensive) in the world.
Not what it's saying.

You're saying too much homework is good. It's not. There's no reason I need to do common core math 30 times after we did it 100 times in class already.

Name anything you use common core for. Shit name anything a normal person does that requires them to know calculus.
I'm in the medical field. One of the most demanding jobs, I've never use algebra. Ever.
Simple addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division coupled with orders of operation are all you need in life.
 
Asking eight families isn't a study. I don't even disagree with the conclusion but wtf. Aellas twitter polls are a better"study".
 
Math homework caused me so much stress. I ended up with piles of undone homework and they just gave up on me ever handing it in. What did me in was long division. You had to show the work even if you already worked out the answer.
You're not the only one; division was 4th grade and while I could (and still can) divide perfectly, I couldn't do their gay little house building steps thing.

Divide
Multiply
Subtract
Bring Down

Or whatever it was, you make this weird fucking waterfall thing under the numbers in the half-rectangle. I don't fucking know, the answer is this.
 
You're not the only one; division was 4th grade and while I could (and still can) divide perfectly, I couldn't do their gay little house building steps thing.

Divide
Multiply
Subtract
Bring Down

Or whatever it was, you make this weird fucking waterfall thing under the numbers in the half-rectangle. I don't fucking know, the answer is this.
I suspect that long division makes more sense if you're counting on an abacus. When you're dealing in whole numbers with addition and subtraction at varying magnitudes as your only "real" operations (multiplication being simple repeated addition or neat times tables tricks), it's either the gay waterfall or sit there keeping track of how many times you can subtract your divisor before running out of beads.
 
Mothers have a harder time helping their kids with math homework?
I would imagine a lot of parents who were taught maths one way back in the day are going to look at what comes home now and think wtf? Don’t forget you need to show your working which is the stupid and baffling methods they teach nowadays
@Man at Arms medicine doesn’t need anything more complex than dilution factors. Anything that requires building stuff , felling a tree so it doesn’t fall on your shed, etc can require some knowledge of triangle wrangling. Heck even quilting you need it.
 
Homework is timewasting BS. School work should be done AT SCHOOL. Y'know, that place where you do....... hear me out ..... School Work. I did better when Homework wasn't a thing (because I never left it to the end of the day - until teachers started making specific homework to take home, fuck that shit). I'm not talking about school projects (but I hate those too). All homework and no play makes Homer Something something.
 
As someone who graduated top of my class, 90% of homework is a total waste of time. This article is retarded, but most homework is just busywork with no benefit. Short of some kind of project or something, kids shouldn't be bringing their work home with them, it just wastes time that could be used on better things.
 
The only way maths homework is harmful to understanding of maths is if the school is pushing Common Core and the parent helps the kid by teaching them the correct understanding of what they're doing. In which case, it's not harmful, it's just harmful to the school's goals.

Common Core is a disaster happening right now and was quite literally created to even out the disparities in outcome rather than help kids - this stated openly.

Common Core is fundamentally harmful because it punishes children for actually figuring out how numbers work and instead pushes rote procedure following. I can honestly say that if I had been taught Common Core as a child I would be less intelligent today, and that thought is terrifying.
 
What the fuck kind of study is this.

It's too small to be any proper sample size but too short to be a longitudunal study.
Were they doing field observations, by directly interacting with subjects?

Was it like some drug test where they pretend a piece of paper is some super secret special drug that might kill people?

What the fuck even is this dude. (A)

The data presented in this article were drawn from a larger ethnographic study which investigated how homework functioned as a social practice within families in Newfoundland on the eastern coast of Canada (Clarke Citation2012; Clarke and Comber Citation2020; Clarke Citation2022). Data were gathered throughout one school year, with family interviews held early in the school year, mid-way through, and again at the end of the year. In this article, we examine how eight families, who were both working and middle class (defined in terms of skills, education, and income), experienced mathematics homework. The eight families (introduced in ) represent all families from the larger study who made reference to mathematics homework specifically. Each of these eight families had traditional family configurations of a mother and a father, one or both of whom participated in the original study. All participating families had a child in Grade 3 (typically aged 8-9)- the year in which students take their first standardised test in Newfoundland, Canada. While the study focussed on the experiences of homework for Grade 3 children and their families, all children in each family were invited to participate. Each family participated in three interviews which included discussion about, and sharing of, homework artefacts. Across the interviews with each family, all mothers and one father attended all interviews, another father attended the first family interview, and another joined for the first 10 minutes of his family’s second interview.
Oh it's not a study at all.
It's a fucking news article.
Swell.
 
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Common Core is fundamentally harmful because it punishes children for actually figuring out how numbers work and instead pushes rote procedure following. I can honestly say that if I had been taught Common Core as a child I would be less intelligent today, and that thought is terrifying.
When I was in school they actually taught us multiple ways of solving math equations. I think one of them ended up being the common core method, but nobody used that one.
 
Looking back at my time in school I think the most bitter, jaded and downright sadistic teachers I had were math teachers.
In one school I went to, the math teacher was the only one who didn't tolerate Black bullshit. In his class you were going to act right and complete the work, or you were gone. That was probably the only class in the school where no one had to worry about being victimized by them.

He was one of the only teachers in my entire schooling that I respected. Most teachers are at best useless babysitters and should be replaced by machines, preferably something from Dunderbeck.
 
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And there it is. Nothing about the math has changed, but the way it's taught has.
Ultimately, being "good" or "bad" at math is mostly about how quickly you intuitively understand what's going on. Once you have that you can do division a hundred different ways and get the same answer. This gay common core stuff is aimed (to be charitable) at getting kids to develop this kind of understanding, but it basically just confuses them and the parents. Practicing these a few dozen times is important for internalizing what you're doing, although you don't have to assign hours of work outside of school to get that.

So many people wouldn't hate math if they had good grade school teachers. "Yes Billy, counting on your fingers is a fine way to do division, but we're also practicing the faggy house model so we can do it lots of ways; if you like counting on your fingers, do each problem both ways and see if you get the same answer!"
 
This is "Journalists too stupid to do grade school math homework" the article.
 
why did this article not give any examples of homework that was too difficult for the students, even with their parents help? If the parents can't help with "Team A scored three touchdowns with points after, and team B scored 2 touchdowns with points after, and three field goals, who won?" then that's one problem (with the parents and child being too stupid). If the parents can't help with, "Verify that the function y=e−3x+2x+3 is a solution to the differential equation y'+3y=6x+11" then that's a whole different problem (the teacher expecting too much).
 
I learned more on kahn academy than i did from the guy there for a meal ticket.
Math should be learned at home from books and class time used for explaining the stuff students didn't get and solving hard problems. Explaining at school is inefficient.

Getting rid of homework is treason.

If you're an adult and you can't figure out math designed for an 8yr old you should unironically kill yourself
Are you American? Their "math for 8-year-olds" uses "workbooks" (books of retarded forms you must fill in) written by retards rather than pen and paper, because selling each student a workbook is profitable. "Jane had three apples. Bob ate one. How many apples does Jane still have? Explain your answer (5 lines). Draw a sad Jane. Draw enough apples to make her happy again."

"Team A scored three touchdowns with points after, and team B scored 2 touchdowns with points after, and three field goals, who won?" then that's one problem (with the parents and child being too stupid).
I don't play basketball, I've no idea what this means.
 
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