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Fucking how? I don't even know how they made a second one without the actual Black Panther. (That was probably Chadwick Horseman's fault though. From what I heard, he knew he was going to die even during the first movie and just didn't tell anybody.) They really should have just recast. All black people look the same anyway, and it isn't like they didn't already do that before. (How's Terrence Howard doing these days?)

The Hulk looked a lot swarthier in The Avengers then he did in The Incredible Hulk...
 
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that was part of the appeal of Marvel in the first place, they gloated about it in marketing. no "status quo" bullshit like DC. Real locations, real time, you get to see relationships blossom and people get married and have kids. Then the 1960s ended and suddenly Peter Parker has been in college from 1966-1978.
 
that was part of the appeal of Marvel in the first place, they gloated about it in marketing. no "status quo" bullshit like DC. Real locations, real time, you get to see relationships blossom and people get married and have kids. Then the 1960s ended and suddenly Peter Parker has been in college from 1966-1978.
In marvel time that's about three years, which kinda makes sense. It's his after college life that's s mess.
 
that was part of the appeal of Marvel in the first place, they gloated about it in marketing. no "status quo" bullshit like DC. Real locations, real time, you get to see relationships blossom and people get married and have kids. Then the 1960s ended and suddenly Peter Parker has been in college from 1966-1978.

Some of the storylines ran longer than the time they were set in, but you still really have to have some sort of consistent vision and keeping the timeline in check, which Marvel never did (and definitely not DC). Even the MCU was not immune to this, despite having every opportunity to do so.

For most of the legacy superheroes it runs with the assumption that no one has ever seen a superhero before. Iron Man takes place in 2008, during the Iraq war (Bush was still President!) and it's through Tony Stark's genius that he's some one-of-a-kind hero who can fly around. And that sort-of works with The Incredible Hulk, which in the backstory (the film is set in 2010, despite the 2008 release) the incident happened in 2005...and such an incident was localized and kept tightly under wraps. But by the time you get to Ant-Man or Dr. Strange all the shock value of a superhero should be gone, but somehow they aren't.

I remember watching Doctor Strange (despite officially no longer following the MCU) and how skeptical he was to magic, despite the fact that the Battle of New York just a few years prior was "9/11 times a hundred" and confirmed extra-terrestrial life (and everything else that happened).
 
Peter graduated from high school in #28 of ASM in 1965, roughly three years after his introduction. 60 years later and Marvel is still obsessed with him being a geeky teenage high school student. I'll never understand it. That's not even getting into how poorly they continue to write his character.

Speaking of the 'real time' stuff, I remember Stan Lee actually bringing it up in one of the old editorials he'd do that would get printed in the middle or back of issues, around the time Peter first started college. I think his argument was that he just didn't want Peter to age so quickly.
 
I remember watching Doctor Strange (despite officially no longer following the MCU) and how skeptical he was to magic, despite the fact that the Battle of New York just a few years prior was "9/11 times a hundred" and confirmed extra-terrestrial life (and everything else that happened).
To be fair, alien life ain't the same as magic. If we got actual evidence of alien life and we see it coming here, doesn't imply that I'm gonna develop magic powers myself. I do get your point, though and that's why I'm wary of how they're gonna deal with the x-men. At least in comics, they've been around since the time of Spiderman and IICR, the explanation was that Xavier wanted to keep the team still a secret, but they were still around doing stuff and helping people. Are mutants gonna just start showing up or we're gonna just assume Cyclops and Storm had powers while the Avengers dealt Thanos?

Peter graduated from high school in #28 of ASM in 1965, roughly three years after his introduction. 60 years later and Marvel is still obsessed with him being a geeky teenage high school student. I'll never understand it. That's not even getting into how poorly they continue to write his character.
The writers have an obsession with school and being young.

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This is new X-Men reboot. Exceptional is similar as Kitty's now the "mentor" of about three school kids too. I couldn't care less about these kids going to school and having to face bullies and shit. Most progressives, which is the majority of current comic writers, never got over that stage of their lives.
 
I remember watching Doctor Strange (despite officially no longer following the MCU) and how skeptical he was to magic, despite the fact that the Battle of New York just a few years prior was "9/11 times a hundred" and confirmed extra-terrestrial life (and everything else that happened).
i'll admit that was a rough one, they really should have just made sure he went to the temple like right before iron man and trained like a motherfucker for years on end in isolation, that would have been a great work around and made it so him becoming master so quickly wasn't as obnoxious, everything else fits surprisingly well though. honest everything after avengers basically doesn't work because of how people would have reacted to superheros and they never seem to help each other, although thats also a problem in the comics as well.
60 years later and Marvel is still obsessed with him being a geeky teenage high school student. I'll never understand it. That's not even getting into how poorly they continue to write his characte
its because "kids can relate" as if it really matters as much, one of the better things about the Raimi trilogy is they move past his high school years super quick, after that its the bullshit juggling of college and work and it all fits better, as we see in the trailer, its a lot harder for a spiderman in high school to keep his secret while everyone has a story of seeing a student high or drunk off their ass go to class, or in costume or other crazy nonsense, especially in new york.
 
Erm yikes, white savior much? Big oof, do better.
The writers have an obsession with school and being young.
I mean, most of them probably peaked in High School and want to go back to "The Good Ol' Days". The less said about the ones who "like ' em young" the better, but they're unfortunately also a factor.
They have an obsession with trying to appeal to teenagers to replace their customer base that's literally dying of old age and/or heart failure.
 
At least in comics, they've been around since the time of Spiderman and IICR, the explanation was that Xavier wanted to keep the team still a secret, but they were still around doing stuff and helping people. Are mutants gonna just start showing up or we're gonna just assume Cyclops and Storm had powers while the Avengers dealt Thanos?
yeah there could be some real drama to be gotten from this if you did it right, like, Xavier forced them to stay back and not stop the ayyys and various X-Men felt strongly about this and so X-Men bickering happens or something

but again you've got "whoops half the team vanished" which seems like a real shit or get off the toilet moment not unlike Blade
sure, vampires are assholes and want to hide from humanity, but literally half of your crew, your enemies, AND YOUR FOOD just vanished

the best way to do it was to have the un-snap accidentally the universes and they walk out into Times Square as Adult Spidey swings after Hobgoblin, the mains quip to the effect of "oh boy" then a bunch of cars start swirling around, pan to the right and a purple glove and an off screen SNIKT! cut to black THE END
don't explain it beyond "fixing the snap changed stuff"
 
yeah there could be some real drama to be gotten from this if you did it right, like, Xavier forced them to stay back and not stop the ayyys and various X-Men felt strongly about this and so X-Men bickering happens or something

but again you've got "whoops half the team vanished" which seems like a real shit or get off the toilet moment not unlike Blade
sure, vampires are assholes and want to hide from humanity, but literally half of your crew, your enemies, AND YOUR FOOD just vanished

the best way to do it was to have the un-snap accidentally the universes and they walk out into Times Square as Adult Spidey swings after Hobgoblin, the mains quip to the effect of "oh boy" then a bunch of cars start swirling around, pan to the right and a purple glove and an off screen SNIKT! cut to black THE END
don't explain it beyond "fixing the snap changed stuff"
I'm sure it will just be handwaved with meltyverse fuckery. Wasn't there already an implication that shit got changed or merged because a character was suddenly played by the wrong actor or something? I don't know I don't remember this bullshit all bleeds together.
 
Another piece of Spider-Man media that's both obsessed with him being in high school and insistent on not using his actual supporting cast. Seriously, I have no idea who the fuck any of these people are other than zesty raceswapped Harry. When it was announced this show was (supposedly) not an MCU thing anymore I was hoping we could get an actual Ditko era throwback if you absolutely have to do high school Peter, but instead it's just garbage.
 
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If I was in charge of the marvel shit id have adapted spiderman life story, get raimi on board and have Bruce Campbell be old Peter Parker narrating his life story.

The cameos and decade pastiches would bring in all the viewers to whatever streaming site you have.

Seems like nostalgia bait is the only thing bringing in viewers anyways.
 
Braining someone with a brick to the face, during a live stream, would be a fucking goldmine to someone like JJ Jameson. I would immediately be interested in the series if it dealt with that particular angle.
 
This shit should have been scrapped immediately when they decided to disconnect it from the MCU.

They have already done Peter Parker in high school stories many times now, at this point, there is nothing new they can add to it.

In a scenario where it was still connected to the MCU, it would have been cool to see the scene in Iron Man 2 again of Peter Parker in an Iron Man mask pretending to blow up the drone and then the Real Iron Man shows up behind him and blows up the drone as a flashback from Peter's perspective.
 
but again you've got "whoops half the team vanished" which seems like a real shit or get off the toilet moment not unlike Blade
sure, vampires are assholes and want to hide from humanity, but literally half of your crew, your enemies, AND YOUR FOOD just vanished
In comics, there were very few of the main mutants who got snapped:
Angel
Beast
Firestar
Iceman
Jean, I think.

You'd think there were much more, isn't?

I liked the idea of bringing mutants back after the snap, but it makes no sense because nothing Hulk did would indicate this was something that happened. And the mutants just becoming mutants in adulthood doesn't have the same weight as the "born this way" canon. Are you telling me that Magneto and Xavier JUST became mutants at 40? Magneto doesn't really hold much as a human hater if he hadn't been developing that sense of superiority for decades.

Putting aside that I'm sure they are gonna fuck up their stories and casting, I am not looking forward how they are gonna even explain them. They waited too much for them.
 
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