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Since we're talking about Black Panther, how about this old, yet still oddly relevant shit?
Oof, yeah, I think I cringed so hard I mentally repressed that one.

The hilarious thing is, Wakanda is a militarized black ethnostate, and Kamala Harris is biracial. It makes as much sense as Obama going "Sieg Heil!"
 
The funniest thing that came out of those movies was dumb people on Twitter thinking Wakanda actually exists
Nah the funniest part was the people insisting that Wakanda would have been real if not for those damned evil white colonizers keeping the niggers down (ignore the thousands upon thousands of years before European colonizers turned up where Wakanda still didn't exist)
 
As hard as the niggers have tried, Black Panther and Wakanda will never be as remember and loved like the Phantom is. Who's comic strip is still being written, drawn and published even now after starting in 1936.
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As hard as the niggers have tried, Black Panther and Wakanda will never be as remember and loved like the Phantom is.
And whose last animated show was one stuffed with anti-capitalist and environmental themes while also finding time to talk about corrupt media and how sometimes activists end up becoming the bad guys.

Good grief we could do with some new Phantom stuff and likely will never get it.
 
Genuinely a more interesting concept for a movie than anything Disney-Marvel's shat out in the last half decade.
You'd think so, but that's pretty much the concept behind Cyborg (that character you forgot about from Justice League (that movie you forgot about)).
This is going to fail. Nobody wants to watch this.
I can't tell. Are the executives crayon-eating level retards or are they intentionally trying to destroy Marvel?
I looked up the numbers out of curiosity and Wakanda Forever apparently did well at the box office despite literally nobody I know or talk to ever acknowledging its existence, and the audience score is like 95% or something, though I saw some evidence that it was only 77% on release. We'll never know how much of a lie those numbers are, but there's a real possibility that blacks actually are clamoring for this kind of thing. Personally I don't think turning your back on (allegedly) 58% of the consumer market to cater to 13% of the consumer market is a good business move unless you're taking money under the table to do it or you're expecting those percentages to change for some reason, but who am I to question the wisdom of the most shit-on company in the entertainment sector.

Anyway I'm gonna go watch Kraven The Hunter.
 
You'd think so, but that's pretty much the concept behind Cyborg (that character you forgot about from Justice League (that movie you forgot about)).
Does Cyborg have a fent reactor? Even when I was into comics, I was never that into DC stuff.
 
I looked up the numbers out of curiosity and Wakanda Forever apparently did well at the box office despite literally nobody I know or talk to ever acknowledging its existence, and the audience score is like 95% or something, though I saw some evidence that it was only 77% on release. We'll never know how much of a lie those numbers are, but there's a real possibility that blacks actually are clamoring for this kind of thing. Personally I don't think turning your back on (allegedly) 58% of the consumer market to cater to 13% of the consumer market is a good business move unless you're taking money under the table to do it or you're expecting those percentages to change for some reason, but who am I to question the wisdom of the most shit-on company in the entertainment sector.
I was more referring to Tony Stark and entire MCU getting blacked not just black panther as well as Marvel forcing in other woke shit, but I didn't make that clear in my post. That's my fault. Sorry about that.

Those are some interesting numbers though. I still think Black Panther 3 is going to flop since the MCU and superheros are really fading in popularity.
 
I still don't understand the religious like hype for Black Panther, the first movie was your run of the mill superhero movie that didn't do anything new apart of being set on a nigger superstate, the characters and plot were so plain and boring that I had a hard time even remembering any of it after seeing the movie all those years back.
I didn't even bother to go and watch the sequel with the aquatic beaners, the only ones that did where the niggers that got mind blown back in 2018.
The only thing i can remember from that piece of shit for better and for worse is killmonger, and he was a gigantic whitey stole muh KANG lineage, despite the fact wakanda actually fucked me and my dad over so.......WE WUZ
 
I'm fifteen minutes into Kraven and I can already tell it has the same problem every Sony movie has had since Morbius where they wrote and filmed enough for a mini series and then tried to cram it all into 90 minutes to the detriment of the pacing but it's still more enjoyable than anything marvel has put out since endgame besides Deadpool 3 and Spider-Man 3.

Edit: alright it's pretty bad.

Edit 2: man that was tough to watch. It's a perfectly adequate story with some really compelling performances that just get absolutely shit on in the edit for the sake of trying to cram in way too much exposition through some of the most bafflingly bad ADR I've ever seen in my life. Pacing absolutely fucked by tons of really jarring cuts so that post-hoc exposition can be delivered by actors whose mouths are either off-camera or don't match the lines they're delivering, and I'm pretty sure I caught at least one instance of a mouth being Amazing Oranged in in post.

I would actually be really interested in seeing an extended/directors cut of this because I suspect that there's a perfectly good movie that could be assembled from what they shot and it just wasn't. I've had this same suspicion ever since Morbius and it just keeps getting reaffirmed.

Anyway I caught another Thunderbolts trailer and they've fucked with the tone again. It seems to be inching closer to tolerable every time, but the fact that they're fucking with it so much in post tempers any hope I could have for it considering what I just sat through. I might watch it if it's a slow week. No new trailer for Captain Falcon though, I guess they're in too deep at this point.

To think there's an alternate universe where these companies didn't try to get out in front of the capeshit bubble by fucking with the formula and just kept making enjoyable slop for another decade. We could have just as easily had an Avengers: United They Stand roster of Ant Man, Wasp, Hawkeye, Vision, Scarlett Witch, Falcon, etc. instead of pivoting to the Marvel NOW / All New All Different Avengers bullshit they're still trying to push. Sad.
 
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I still can't believe they made a movie about kraven when the most interesting thing he ever did was kill himself. I like kraven but he was dead for 35 years, sure they brought him back for a bit, mainly to just hang out with squirrel girl before killing him again, but do modern superhero fans even know about him? Then again 90% of super hero movies fans have never read a single comic panel and at most watched a cartoon episode or 2 so it doesn't really matter, but if marvel realized most dangerous game hunter man was out of place in the 80s maybe bringing him to the 2020s isn't the best idea.
 
The best thing about Black Panther to this day is the fact "Wakanda" became a great term for mocking ideal paradises like how "Weebs see Japan as their personal Wakanda" for example.

I still can't believe they made a movie about kraven when the most interesting thing he ever did was kill himself. I like kraven but he was dead for 35 years, sure they brought him back for a bit, mainly to just hang out with squirrel girl before killing him again, but do modern superhero fans even know about him? Then again 90% of super hero movies fans have never read a single comic panel and at most watched a cartoon episode or 2 so it doesn't really matter, but if marvel realized most dangerous game hunter man was out of place in the 80s maybe bringing him to the 2020s isn't the best idea.
I mean Kraven is a popular villain since as you said, he was carried a lot in cartoon, and video game appearances. Speaking of which, it helped that Insomniac's take on Kraven helped popularize him a lot, which actually hurt the Kraven movie since people had a recent interpretation to compare the movie one to.

Though it should be noted that the MCU wanted Kraven in it twice with Ryan Coogler wanting him to be a minor antagonist in Black Panther, and Jon Watts wanting to do Kraven's Last Hunt before doing the whole Mutliverse thing with No Way Home.
 
I decided to try and watch The Marvels.

I made fun of this movie upon release because it featured the wildly unpopular Captain Marvel and two nobodies. I also made fun of the fact that it was directed by a literal who. Then there was the embarrassing "BLACK GIRL MAGIC" leak.

But the reality of the movie is so much worse.

The directing in the movie is terrible. There's one point in the movie with an interesting set-up: the girls are on a Skrull planet that's being destroyed by some gap-toothed black woman. Everybody is evacuating, and Ms. Marvel is trying to get some Skrulls on a ship. Captain Marbles shouts at her to "leave them, we need to save who we can." Interesting set-up, right? You have this idealistic child who thinks being a superhero is all fun and games, is hanging out with her childhood hero, and then the reality of what being a super hero actually entails suddenly smacks her in the face as she's forced to watch people she could theoretically save die before her eyes. Cool, I like it. Problem is, the director is shit. Brie Larsen's performance feels like a first take. She gives off none of the authority that Captain Marbles should have in the moment. Iman Vellani doesn't convey any of the pathos she should be experiencing. And the director speeds through the scene so quickly that it leaves no impact. And then in the very next scene, everybody is back to normal like nothing happened. How about a moment of conflict between Iman and Brie where Iman confronts Brie about leaving people to die and Brie either scolds her for being childish or tells her a story about her experiences in those kinds of situations? NOOOOOOOOOPE. Next scene is, and I shit you not, a jump rope montage.

That kind of amateurish shit is all over the movie. Iman and Brie can't act, and the negress who plays Monica is just kinda there to look sad.

My breaking point is when they land on the singing planet and . . .

Sorry, my mind went blank. I have seen horrors.

Don't watch this movie. Not even for free. Its somehow worse than Love and Thunder.
 
The funniest part of the Kraven movie is that they turned The Rhino into some dweeb who has to inject himself with juice in order to get strong. The only explanation given for this is that some scientist in New York experimented on him just so they could get that tenuous Spider-Man connection.
He doesn't inject himself with juice to get strong, he injects himself with juice to suppress his "powers" and look/feel normal. And that was actually a namedrop for The Jackal, in another instance of scattershot exposition dump/frantic attempt to establish a shared universe.

I actually don't mind the take if he wasn't a jobber, and really liked Alessandro Nivola's performance when it wasn't getting mangled in post or whatever the fuck that final fight was. I also, as a combat sports fan, really liked how their physicality and approach to their fight reflected on the characters and how they approach problems throughout the rest of the story. It felt like there was actually some thought put into that. Like I said, I feel like they probably could have assembled a good movie out of what they shot if they were willing to cut unnecessary shit like Calypso's entire existence, chill out with the extended universe references and just trust the audience to put things together without being handheld the whole way.

I was pretty excited when Sony and Disney agreed to shake hands, but the more I reflect on it, especially after rewatching the Holland trilogy not too long ago... it's been a shit show. I like Holland's take on the character better than Maguire's or Garfield's, but he hasn't been allowed to be in a Spider-Man story. It's like the character has no room to breathe or organically develop because it's being pulled in two directions by two sinking franchises trying to establish as many connections as possible to tie him to them, like, oh I dunno...

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The Spider-Man IP has Parker luck at this point.
 
I'd hardly care about these movies getting cut down to PG-13 for theaters if they got R/unrated versions on home video later, but for some reason that's a lost art.
 
How Sony gave Kraven an R rating but not the Venom trilogy is a mystery we will have many moons to unravel.
Its because Deadpool and Wolverine made a lot of money, that is literally why they made it R rated.

Also not exactly related to MCU, but since we're talking Sony, after Beyond the Spider-Verse, Sony is going to have to distance themelves from Shameik Moore (Miles' voice actor) since he is beyond embarrassing trying to openly hit on actresses who are engaged including Gwen's voice actress from Spiderverse
 
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