Marathon 2025 - Bungie's new AAAA Extraction shooter

[Pod 042]

You arent wrong, but Marathon isn't living up as an extraction shooter.

There are also only 4 maps, so the game is neither deep nor wide in terms of progression.

Not about (you) but I thought you would appreciate it.

Marathon was so bad it killed destiny lmao, I wonder what the next fag cope will be?

The next cope has already started, it just depends on the camp you are in
Marathon camp:
"Now that Bungie has killed destiny, they can put all their focus on Marathon and making it the game it should have always been!".

Destiny camp:
"Now that we have 80,000 petition signatures, Bungie and Sony will have to save D2 and work on D3. Let's do a save destiny day on June 6th where we all log in and play the game!"
Reality is neither side is going to get what they want. Destiny 2 going into MM was just another finger on the monkey's paw curling.

 

[big pauper]

Something I learned from playing lots of MMORPGs when I was younger (D2 and WOW especially) is that people just don't know how to play cooperative video games anymore. They don't pay attention, they don't read guides, they don't watch video walkthroughs, they don't read raid chat. They will stand in the fire and then get mad at you for telling them not to.

It was not this bad even ten years ago and I don't know WTF happened. There's a whole new generation of normie gamers playing MMOs whose ideal game is one where you pay no attention and watch TikTok in the background but can just press some buttons and still win. The problem is they're in your raid group getting pissy because that's not how any remotely team-focused game works and they want you to rewrite reality for them.

nah, this was totally normal back when i played wow in like 2010. When it was at it's peak popularity i would probably wager like 50% of the players legitimately did not want to and never intended to do raids, they just wanted to dungeons and quests forever, but that was the end game so people were pushed into it. they kept lowering the bar for what a raid was during TBC and WOTLK because people weren't able to reach the bar. It kind of made sense that it took too much effort to gather 40 competant players to do a raid which is why they switched to 10/25 man raids and gave out raid gear doing dungeons. They basically just pandered to people who had no intention of actually engaging with the game beyond the dopamine treadmill.

you would pretty regularly run into people who were like level 60+ that really did not know how their class worked. hunters with spirit/int gear, spellpower shamans, people who literally never respecced their character from their initial "oh that looks cool" leveling talent tree into a specific character build and have no concept of such a thing, who get pissy with you when you ask them why they're doing less dps than the healer.

 

[Tanner Glass]

4 billion dollars for 2 different franchises that are all going to have their service cut possibly within weeks if not months of each other. I cant think of anything similar to this.

Even though Destiny 2 is a played out dead game, at least it had a proven audience. I would of killed Marathon for Destiny and tried to do something to lure back those players, but they are taking the gamble on Marathon, I don't think it's going to pay out.

Blizzard being bought by Activision, ABK being bought by MS, Bethesda, and Rareware were all huge studios that were bought and then just completely turned to dogshit. Which it to say nothing of smaller studios on the same track.

It's really common by now so it's not surprising that Bungie is awful, considering they were last good ~15-20 years ago.

 

[Pod 042]

considering they were last good ~15-20 years ago.

Bungie was never good and has always had poor financial decision making. Halo and it's success can be credited to a handful of people, who aren't with the studio anymore, and Microsoft tard wrangling them into meeting timelines and quality expatiations.

If Bungie was a self publishing studio from the beginning, Halo 2 would have been a delayed and broken mess. And Halo 3 wouldn't have ever seen the light of day.

 

[Swine Schwein]

I just wanna see the Pride skins. I can barely wait bros

 

[creaturestorm]

Not about (you) but I thought you would appreciate it.

It's pretty close to what I'm saying.

PvE events are good, but adding more of them isn't going to fix the problems of it sucking as an extraction shooter. I think Dire Marsh has a perfect amount of them. The problem, again, is that they dont reward an appropriate amount of loot and the loot isnt meaningful anyway.

Perimeter and Out post have terrible events, they need fixed.

The way the progression system works, the loot really doesn't matter unless you're lower level. They need to basically just copy/paste the progression of tarkov into this game and it would help a lot.

They've added so many PvE events to the game now that it's a fucking mess... It's actually disgusting to look at, the Map is just covered in bots and bosses some times.

It's just more sound traps for me to be absolutely paranoid of and More loot I don't care about!

IMO the Cryo Archives map should of been almost entirely PvE. Players spend all wee dealing with the stress, pressure, and bullshit the game throws at them. By the end of the week they need some way to decompress and a chance to unwind. They need something to look forward to. Instead we got another high risk slot machine.

I think the entirety of the UESC Marathon and all it's future maps should just be PvE raid encounters, where you need multiple runner teams to kill stuff. I think killing a bunch of aliens in tight corners of the Marathon would be a good Homage to the original games, it's what people want to see. Every Season should release one new map for the Marathon and one new map for Tau Ceti.

Tau Ceti IV's surface should be where the PvP happens and the story unfolds.

The last thing I want to play is some kind of shit Destiny. This game is much closer to being a decent extraction shooter than it is a shitty Destiny.

Marathon camp:
"Now that Bungie has killed destiny, they can put all their focus on Marathon and making it the game it should have always been!".

and if they don't it's GG