🐱 Make Them Say Exactly What is Being Canceled

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Free speech on the political right is a grift, and here’s how it works.

First, you take something like the Dr. Seuss estate deciding to remove six books with racist depictions of people of color from future publication. Then, you ignore the content of what led to the decision in the first place, leaning heavily only on the name of the beloved children’s author and imply that more wholesome content (Tucker Carlson chose The Sneetches) is under general attack. Having buried the original point, you are now free to make the discussion about whether something can be said instead of what was actually said. Libs owned, repeat ad infinitum.

There are some very salient criticisms of cancel culture. Extremely online people use it as justification for large scale harassment campaigns against random nobodies because it’s frankly easier to elicit a reaction from them than getting a celebrity or politician to notice you. It’s also led to a lot of cannibalism within marginalized communities. Far too many people are looking to have an epic burn tweet end up in a Buzzfeed article.

That said, criticism from the right about canceling is almost always framed as a censorship issue. It’s not because it’s true. After all, calling someone a racist asshole is in fact protected speech as well. It’s because it puts liberals on the defensive.

Governor Greg Abbott recently has expressed support of Senate Bill 12, a nonsensical piece of garbage legislation from Sen. Bryan Hughes (R-Tyler) that would somehow keep social media companies from demonetizing or banning Texans for political speech companies feel goes against their terms of service. It’s part of the long-running delusion conservatives have that their voices are being censored on social media over mere opinions that aren’t politically correct.

No one is being banned for conservative speech. Former President and current Florida Man Donald Trump didn’t lose his Twitter account because he advocated eliminating the minimum wage or returning to the gold standard. He lost it because he was pathologically unable to stop screaming outright lies about a stolen election to millions of followers, some of whom later stormed the U.S. Capitol with apparent intent to kill or capture sitting members of Congress and/or his own vice president.

Like the Dr. Seuss discussion, conservatives only want to talk about the fact that something is no longer being said in the public sphere, not what was actually the subject under discussion. It’s easy to defend Trump or any number of other grifters and conspiracy theorists when they are merely one side of the political spectrum being. It’s far harder to justify outright lies, racist comments, and possible threats.

The best way to win that conversation is to not have it in the first place and accuse the rest of the world of silencing their constitutionally protected opinions. Problem is, it’s not their opinions. They’re just wrong. The depictions in those Dr. Seuss books involve drawing Africans as monkeys and East Asians as offensive stereotypes. Any reasonable person would agree they are racist. How good a person Seuss became later or how progressive other books he wrote are is really immaterial. This is not about the soul of a man long dead and gone to his reward. It’s about what sort of images we want children to have in their heads when they peruse the school library going forward.

If you insist on arguing with free speech grifters (a damn fool thing to do, but here I am, too), never let the conversation descend into generalities. Shove Seuss’ art in their faces and ask, “are you comfortable with kids seeing this specific image?” When they lament that their favorite fearmongering alt-right personality is no longer welcome on social media, demand to know if they are okay with what they said. Make them take a stand on the subject at hand.

Whether conservatives want to admit it or not, these are conversations about content, not rights. As our general understanding of the dangers of unchecked bigoted speech and misinformation becomes better, more and more individuals will exercise their choice to not host those things within their spheres of influence. That isn’t the death of conservatism, unless you want to admit that conservatism offers little beyond lies and liberal tears these days.
 
Imagine spending your whole life preaching to the choir like this and thinking you're changing hearts and minds.

Cancel culture steps working when the little people don't give a fuck anymore, and oopsie whoopsie you've pushed hard enough that they don't.
 
I am so glad I bought my Little Nemo physical collections 20+ years ago before the libtards of today had a chance to delete Flip or all the little jungle-monkeys of Slumberland.
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To the shock of nobody, he doesn't use his picture on his twitter profile.

You don't have to scroll very far to find some silly opinions. :story:
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Comparing Texas to the state induced starvation in Stalin's Russia:
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But notice the interaction, dude is getting maybe a dozen likes on a tweet...on a good day. Most of his tweets look like his take about non-intervention.

Nobody listens to this clown normally, but he's got a writing position in the press somehow...
 
What's being cancelled?
Its all about your thinly veiled attempt to gain absolute power for yourself under the guise of common good, ending racism and morality. You're against dr seuss cause it an easy target you're using to make yourself love k good. If you were truly against racism you'd do something about the rich white men own both parties and allowing for black genocide via unchecked immigration.

Tldr go fuck your self ya woke scold.
 
It is true that much of the right embraces the idea of free speech just because they have less influence and being censored.

The answer to this is not to make them the force for free speech by embracing cancel culture.

>Jef Rouner

Hey, I remember this faggot! He's the one who sent the pedophile Nyberg a picture of his daughter to cheer him up! https://archive.fo/er5KQ

Oh fuck.
 

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"Make them say"
So like the struggle sessions are getting bolder lately or??
 
It blows my mind how narrow minded these people are on cultural differences when they are constantly jerking off how worldly they are.
And even beyond ignorance of the ’hows’ of cultural difference, the ‘why’s. They act like so many cultural differences are either by choice, or out of some enlightened view of the world (in fairness, some are.)

Whereas the reality is that even the ‘superficial’ differences like you point out typically come from some sort of need, or shortage, or way to explain something that people of the time couldn’t understand.
 
Where's the lie?
Democrats are in the middle of a Red Scare right now, silencing anyone who dares question the status quo.

>Some of these refugees are dangerous.
Racist!

>Cutting of your genitals doesn't affect your gender
Transphobe!

>We should stop giving so much foreign aid to Europe.
Russian!

I'm not saying the Republican party isn't a snake pit but I think they are far more valid than the Democrats right now.
 
Democrats are in the middle of a Red Scare right now, silencing anyone who dares question the status quo.

>Some of these refugees are dangerous.
Racist!

>Cutting of your genitals doesn't affect your gender
Transphobe!

>We should stop giving so much foreign aid to Europe.
Russian!

I'm not saying the Republican party isn't a snake pit but I think they are far more valid than the Democrats right now.
The republicans don't have a platform beyond being progressive light. To win they new a need direction besides being anti sjw
 
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Conservatives and Trumpers had no problem with cancel culture when they wanted to cancel the NBA this past summer or the NFL a few years ago when Colin Kaepernick was kneeling during the anthem. They're just seething and dilating now because racist stuff is getting removed and that makes them assblasted
 
Conservatives and Trumpers had no problem with cancel culture when they wanted to cancel the NBA this past summer or the NFL a few years ago when Colin Kaepernick was kneeling during the anthem. They're just seething and dilating now because racist stuff is getting removed and that makes them assblasted
Boycotting is not cancelling. That‘s choosing not to spend my money or time on something that insults my intelligence or beliefs. Hoping that people fail because they did something you don’t like isn’t cancelling. Even announcing that you‘re going to boycott is not cancelling.

Threatening people with legal or other consequences unless they kowtow to your whims, directly removing them from a platform, or protesting against allowing them to be stocked in stores is cancelling - it’s forcing other people to do what you want under penalty of some repercussion or without even allowing them the ability to continue to do the thing you don’t want.
 
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Threatening people with legal or other consequences unless they kowtow to your whims, directly removing them from a platform, or protesting against allowing them to be stocked in stores is cancelling - it’s forcing other people to do what you want under penalty of some repercussion or without even allowing them the ability to continue to do the thing you don’t want.
I don't see the issue here. One group forces the other group to submit. If the group being controlled was better at gaining power then they would have the ability to sayw whatever they want.
 
"Liberal" and "Conservative" are not contradictory terms. "Conservative" means sticking to traditional values, and "Liberal" means letting people live their life freely. Living your life freely is a traditional value. Leftists don't believe in any of those things. That's why Leftists love cancel culture, because it gives them control over you.
 
Boycotting is not cancelling. That‘s choosing not to spend my money or time on something that insults my intelligence or beliefs. Hoping that people fail because they did something you don’t like isn’t cancelling. Even announcing that you‘re going to boycott is not cancelling.

Threatening people with legal or other consequences unless they kowtow to your whims, directly removing them from a platform, or protesting against allowing them to be stocked in stores is cancelling - it’s forcing other people to do what you want under penalty of some repercussion or without even allowing them the ability to continue to do the thing you don’t want.
Who is threatening to be sued? Dr Seuss's heirs decided not to publish the books. It's their property and they decided not to. Who the hell are you to tell them they have to publish it?

People were removed from Twitter and such because they broke the terms of service. That's not cancelling, that's banning your ass. If you go to work and say something offensive, you'd probably be fired. Same shit applies.

Conservatives were calling for Dr. Seuss to be cancelled back in 2012 because The Lorax was pro-environmentalism. Now that the family decided to no longer publish racist books, suddenly the conservatives always loved Dr Seuss and don't want them to stop publishing them. Gee, I wonder why that is?
 
I don't see the issue here. One group forces the other group to submit. If the group being controlled was better at gaining power then they would have the ability to sayw whatever they want.
To some extent I agree with you - like with the NFL or Gilette, if you anger enough people so much that they’re willing to change their shopping/viewing habits then clearly there is a problem that needs to be fixed.

What shouldn’t be allowed (by any group) is the idea that 2 or 3 people looking to stir up trouble, or some leader of a group can essentially decide, by fiat, to just shut down anyone they don’t like or disagree with.
 
To some extent I agree with you - like with the NFL or Gilette, if you anger enough people so much that they’re willing to change their shopping/viewing habits then clearly there is a problem that needs to be fixed.

What shouldn’t be allowed (by any group) is the idea that 2 or 3 people looking to stir up trouble, or some leader of a group can essentially decide, by fiat, to just shut down anyone they don’t like or disagree with.
People obviously agree with those people or they wouldn't go along with it.

Why are you against social media companies enforcing their terms of service, and why are you against a family, that owns some book rights, deciding to no longer publishing a book they don't want to? Seems like you want a country where the government controls everything
 
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