Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

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Maybe there's a generational shift in the usage of weeb. For gen x'ers/millenials it would be the former definition, along with "t3h penguin of d00m" mannerisms from tumblr. It's just pavlovian conditioned into people to not act like weebs even within anime discussion.
It has me thinking now if zoomers are using it in a more moderate way, but millenials are seeing that as "ok, i can now act like this" this might explain the disconnect with your Gators and your Flamencos and their need for validation as core members of their chosen hobby.
People like Gator & Flamenco are more likely to call themselves otaku than weebs due to the negative connotations associated with weebs sticking (the Filthy Frank video really blew up with "normies") Otaku's like the japanese equivalent but not limited to anime popculture shit but there's still the implication that it is one of their obsessions. Stuff like trains & military equipment have their own otaku groups. & there's the understanding that the overwhelming majority of them are socially maladjusted shut ins that only talk to other socially maladjusted shut ins.
 
One thing that makes loli/shota garbage extra irritating is that it seeps into manga/anime which doesn't need that disgusting bait to begin with.

It seeps into gooner content like Ikki Tousen and Sekirei which are focused on showing off hot women, but then you have a little girl either completely naked in the former or kissing a young adult man in the latter.

It seeps into a drama like Bunny Drop, where the story starts off with an adult man looking after a little girl as her adoptive father before the story hits the cringe factor with suggesting a romance between the foster father/daughter.

It seeps into a comedy like Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, where of course the super-stacked and eye-catching blonde dragon-woman Lucoa is used to tease and embarrass the hell out of a little boy (who of course is named Shouta).

It seeps into shonen action like Seven Deadly Sins, although that story is a special buffet in all kinds of creepiness (Sarcastic Chorus did a good video on SDS called "The Anime That Did Everything Wrong").

It's sometimes kind of hard to get mad at people for labeling anime in general as being "degenerate," when loli/shota trash infects genres of all kinds and makes it more difficult to enjoy manga/anime in their entirety, whether the stories are focused on tones of action, humor, drama, or just plain sexiness.
 
It seeps into shonen action like Seven Deadly Sins, although that story is a special buffet in all kinds of creepiness (Sarcastic Chorus did a good video on SDS called "The Anime That Did Everything Wrong").
I heard of him before. That dude complained about Children’s cartoons once. 🫠
 
One thing that makes loli/shota garbage extra irritating is that it seeps into manga/anime which doesn't need that disgusting bait to begin with.

It seeps into gooner content like Ikki Tousen and Sekirei which are focused on showing off hot women, but then you have a little girl either completely naked in the former or kissing a young adult man in the latter.

It seeps into a drama like Bunny Drop, where the story starts off with an adult man looking after a little girl as her adoptive father before the story hits the cringe factor with suggesting a romance between the foster father/daughter.

It seeps into a comedy like Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, where of course the super-stacked and eye-catching blonde dragon-woman Lucoa is used to tease and embarrass the hell out of a little boy (who of course is named Shouta).

It seeps into shonen action like Seven Deadly Sins, although that story is a special buffet in all kinds of creepiness (Sarcastic Chorus did a good video on SDS called "The Anime That Did Everything Wrong").

It's sometimes kind of hard to get mad at people for labeling anime in general as being "degenerate," when loli/shota trash infects genres of all kinds and makes it more difficult to enjoy manga/anime in their entirety, whether the stories are focused on tones of action, humor, drama, or just plain sexiness.
This can be very easily fixed by just quickly checking the MAL page before you watch it to see if there are any red flags. I think you watching gooner media also has a huge thing to do with it, call me a prude but I stop watching an anime if it starts feeling like softcore porn. If a story is indecent enough to abandon itself to meet the audience's base sexual desires, it is probably indecent enough to meet the sickest desires imaginable. Probably because of that reason I tend to not really come across loli.
 
I've also seen people put these emojis in their Twitter bio to signal a pro-lolicon stance. There's much less normal crossover here so if you see a profile with one or especially both emojis in an X bio without context it's pretty safe to say it's the dog whistle.
I was scrolling on Youtube and found a video from a popular channel regarding an 11 year old girl getting arrested for pulling a shitty prank and of course one of the first comments I saw was this shit:
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To act like this never crosses over to actual children is insanity. Just from my own experience on xitter, if the lolicon dabbles at all in politics, they will most likely be arguing about lowering the AOC or how its perfectly normal to find a girl attractive once she has her period :cryblood:
 
I heard of him before. That dude complained about Children’s cartoons once. 🫠
Yeah, yeah. We can make fun of people angry about children's cartoons. I'm just saying I liked that video in particular as a highlight of how a decent or mid manga/anime by itself gets bogged down in creepy moments which leads to the overall quality of the narrative being below baseline.

This can be very easily fixed by just quickly checking the MAL page before you watch it to see if there are any red flags. I think you watching gooner media also has a huge thing to do with it, call me a prude but I stop watching an anime if it starts feeling like softcore porn. If a story is indecent enough to abandon itself to meet the audience's base sexual desires, it is probably indecent enough to meet the sickest desires imaginable. Probably because of that reason I tend to not really come across loli.

I don't trust just any one anime site to give me a heads-up on content in anime/manga. I'd rather branch out and check multiple sources, just in case.

Also, I'd rather think it's important to say "hey Japan, cut this shit out" on videos and chat-sites like this, instead of just linking to a website that could tell you if a manga/anime has horrifically degen material in it.

Also also, just because something is sexual or pornographic doesn't automatically mean it will lead to the most disgusting goon material imaginable. As a guy who's come across some hentai, there's quite a difference between hentai which show a normal boy and girl falling in love with each other and hentai which depict more disturbing desires like torture dungeons and mind-control.

Goon content by itself can have taste and moderation, and it doesn't mean every creator who does it is a vile sex-pest. Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater here.

I mean, you have an author like Eiichiro Oda who likes to show off a bunch of hot women designs in his shonen manga (and Oda is clearly capable of drawing women with different features and body types, despite what some retards say), and I never felt like Oda went too far with the kind of goon content he's into. Granted, Oda's a different case because he's writing for pre-teens, but like I said even shonen content can fall victim to depraved ideas as was evident with Seven Deadly Sins.
 
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Also, I'd rather think it's important to say "hey Japan, cut this shit out" on videos and chat-sites like this, instead of just linking to a website that could tell you if a manga/anime has horrifically degen material in it.
Most japanese otaku aren't gonna care to hear what others say about even stuff like toddlercon or lolicon, let alone degen shit like mind control or bdsm torture porn. They already get shit from "normies" in Japan who call them pedophiles & perverts over this stuff. A westerner doesn't make a difference to them. The only thing you can do is shame the material & the people who watch it. Don't let it just get swept up, drill into people's heads that this shit is degenerate. The only way Japan listens is if the money walks.
 
I don't trust just any one anime site to give me a heads-up on content in anime/manga. I'd rather branch out and check multiple sources, just in case.
Fair, I just wanted to give the simplest method. Honestly these days you could probably just ask an AI "Without spoiling anything about the plot or premise, does [show] contain [whatever you disapprove of]?"
Also, I'd rather think it's important to say "hey Japan, cut this shit out" on videos and chat-sites like this, instead of just linking to a website that could tell you if a manga/anime has horrifically degen material in it.
A japanese executive or author won't really read kiwifarms and then go "oh jeezu, iu needu to stoppu ze roriconnu". In the end whatever we complain about here does not and never will have a proper effect on japanese media. Best it can do is make people in the west realize it's bad.
Also also, just because something is sexual or pornographic doesn't automatically mean it will lead to the most disgusting goon material imaginable. As a guy who's come across some hentai, there's quite a difference between hentai which show a normal boy and girl falling in love with each other and hentai which depict more disturbing desires like torture dungeons and mind-control. Goon content by itself can have taste and moderation, and it doesn't mean every creator who does it is a vile sex-pest. Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater here.
It's still immoral in the end. Pornography in any form is bad for your brain and you are best off just not consuming it. Even if not every creator of hentai is a vile sex-pest, all of them profit from people who often suffer from an addiction and the material that they make is knowingly damaging to those who consume it. When your moral standards are low enough to get to that level, making hyperdegenerate material is not that much of a step lower.
I mean, you have an author like Eiichiro Oda who likes to show off a bunch of hot women designs in his shonen manga (and Oda is clearly capable of drawing women with different features and body types, despite what some retards say), and I never felt like Oda went too far with the kind of goon content he's into. Granted, Oda's a different case because he's writing for pre-teens, but like I said even shonen content can fall victim to depraved ideas as was evident with Seven Deadly Sins.
Dude, are you for real? Oda, the man who wrote Ivankov, a drag queen who turns men into women by injecting them with hormones, the man who wrote Momonosuke who suffers from the EXACT same issues that you critiqued Dragon Maid's Shouta for, the man who wrote like every barely-disguised fetish under the sun does not go too far with the goon content? I enjoy One Piece in select arcs but if it wasn't sunk costs, I would have just quit it. It absolutely is a very degenerate piece of media.

Like, there is a way to make women sexy in a tasteful way. Honey from Space Dandy, Fujiko from Lupin III (Depening on the show, of course. TWCFM is complete niggercoal. I am mainly talking about her in Part 1, 2, 4 and 5) and Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop are good examples of that. I really don't know why you picked Oda out of all people for this argument.
 
It seeps into shonen action like Seven Deadly Sins, although that story is a special buffet in all kinds of creepiness (Sarcastic Chorus did a good video on SDS called "The Anime That Did Everything Wrong").
Here’s the video.
I knew this series was hot ass but it’s nice to know that the author is a pedophilic creep that incorporates naked children in his works. He’s almost as bad as Made in Abyss.
 
> be mr beast
> be correct about everything
> make some list about anime or some shit you don't care about
> elong gives you a billion bloody grokbucks
> everyone seethes in the comments
> move on
Mr Breast wins again

This might also be because most modern western comics are garbage to begin with, but it's audience is as niche if not more niche than it was in the 90s.
Me when I only read DC and Marvel and also am named Alan Moore and I made a bad comic that "deconstructed" superheroes in the same way Evangelion and Konosuba are deconstructions

pretty fucked up looking dog
 
It's still immoral in the end. Pornography in any form is bad for your brain and you are best off just not consuming it. Even if not every creator of hentai is a vile sex-pest, all of them profit from people who often suffer from an addiction and the material that they make is knowingly damaging to those who consume it. When your moral standards are low enough to get to that level, making hyperdegenerate material is not that much of a step lower.

OK there, puritan. Like I get that porn can be an addiction, but the keyword there is CAN. What do we do, ban all porn? What's next, then? Cigarettes? Alcohol? Junk food? Video games? Do you realize how absurd you sound?

Porn and sexual material can be just an outlet to help people relax whenever they're stressed out during the day. You might have a point when it comes to the porn industry, mainly filming live-action porn. But let's not pretend that some guy or girl making an indie R34 animation by themselves with friendly associates needs to have their material banned, especially if it just depicts normal sex.

I don't even drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes, but banning those is just going to make things worse (gangsters rising up during Prohibition being one of the more prominent examples). You just run the risk of people being so pent up and frustrated that it makes it harder to use an outlet that helps them release their stresses.

Sure, stuff like smokes and alcohol isn't healthy to begin with, but not everyone has the luxury of finding something else as a more healthy outlet that works for their mind and body. And when you have people more pent up, you run into the inverse problem of people being so stressed that they become less sane and more unhinged. It's all about moderation.

Not everyone needs to engage in outlets that can cause addiction, but let's not remove those outlets and make it worse for the people who can have the capacity to moderate.

Dude, are you for real? Oda, the man who wrote Ivankov, a drag queen who turns men into women by injecting them with hormones, the man who wrote Momonosuke who suffers from the EXACT same issues that you critiqued Dragon Maid's Shouta for, the man who wrote like every barely-disguised fetish under the sun does not go too far with the goon content? I enjoy One Piece in select arcs but if it wasn't sunk costs, I would have just quit it. It absolutely is a very degenerate piece of media.

Like, there is a way to make women sexy in a tasteful way. Honey from Space Dandy, Fujiko from Lupin III (Depening on the show, of course. TWCFM is complete niggercoal. I am mainly talking about her in Part 1, 2, 4 and 5) and Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop are good examples of that. I really don't know why you picked Oda out of all people for this argument.

I don't personally care for the progressive trans stuff Oda put in like Bon Clay, Ivankov, Yamato, Kikunojo, etc. I think if the world wasn't infested with troons like it is today, Oda's trans characters would have been dismissed as odd but nothing to get worked over (Oda has so many inspirations in his story, I guess he felt the okama way of life was something amusing he wanted to put into his work). I just don't get worked over those characters because I know there's media far more obnoxious and in-your-face about the trans nature of their characters (especially since at least Oda didn't put in "trans kids" so far).

Also, Momonosuke is a bit different than Shouta in that he was more aware that being a boy allows him to get close to adult women (which is given disapproval by the adult men, albeit as a comedic gag). When his body gets older, he gets shut down when he tries to get close to women again. And that gag with him inside Yamato's clothing is a spur-of-the-moment event, not something Momo planned on to begin with. Oda may make jokes you don't like and I don't laugh at every joke Oda makes, but the dude still has some restraint, keeps focus on his overall story, and isn't as degenerate as I've seen other anime show off, whether or not they're shonen.

I think in Shouta's case with Kobayashi, they could have had the same gag but have Shouta be a young adult man who's sexually with-drawn. Lucoa's care-free and motherly instincts, while still adorning her risque appearance, would have worked better for a young adult man who's attracted to her but doesn't want to take advantage of her, keeping the comedy and preventing the bit from being obnoxious with how long it's drawn out.

I guess the Kobayashi example in particular stood out to me because there was an anime that came out around the same time as Kobayashi which was nothing but a fully stacked adult woman looking after a little boy and constantly teasing suggestive imagery, and that little boy even gets a harem with that adult woman and some teen girls. It's not an actual harem, but the comedic tone didn't help either. It just felt like the creators didn't realize that the comedy works better when it's sexually with-drawn adult men being teased by older adult women, not little boys who shouldn't receive that kind of teasing to begin with.

And nudity of attractive woman by itself doesn't have to be tasteless (whether it's PG-13 fanservice or the more R-rated variety). Even if it's just a simple context like "hey, we've got a badass sexy woman, let's put her in a bath/shower" like in '90s fighting game OVAs (Street Fighter, Tekken, Fatal Fury, Battle Arena Toshinden, etc.), it can still be better than a more disgusting context like "hey, let's have guys intentionally strip her, stare, and even take pics for our amusement." Whether the context is simple or not, it's all about how you frame the sexiness.
 
It just felt like the creators didn't realize that the comedy works better when it's sexually with-drawn adult men being teased by older adult women, not little boys who shouldn't receive that kind of teasing to begin with.
That's because the creator of the original manga and creative director used to make lolicon/shotacon porn for a living. There's your answer for Kobayashi Dragon Maid and why it's full of lolicon and shotacon fetish material. This is how Japanese studios usually operate these days, they pick up porn artists and let them take the reins.
 
What do we do, ban all porn?
Yes, unironically

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Rest of your post is just straight up cope, regurgitating the same arguments lolitards do but at a macro-level
>ITS AN OUTLET DUDE
is a slippery slope, and the people this thread tackles prove exactly that. Pornography inevitably leads to a spiral of immorality. Like, I am not trying to portray myself as a perfect soul who never watched pornography before, but just because you engage in evil does not mean you cannot recognize it as a problem. Trying to cope around your issues will only make them worse. Someone who smokes should not delude himself into thinking he is not addicted, someone who's an alcoholic should not convince themselves that alcohol is actually good for them.

Your argument for "moderation" is a complete myth. If you need something to the point that you go insane if you don't have it, you are not doing in moderation, you are addicted.
 
And nudity of attractive woman by itself doesn't have to be tasteless (whether it's PG-13 fanservice or the more R-rated variety). Even if it's just a simple context like "hey, we've got a badass sexy woman, let's put her in a bath/shower" like in '90s fighting game OVAs (Street Fighter, Tekken, Fatal Fury, Battle Arena Toshinden, etc.), it can still be better than a more disgusting context like "hey, let's have guys intentionally strip her, stare, and even take pics for our amusement." Whether the context is simple or not, it's all about how you frame the sexiness.
All porn should be Indian men with white women, I'm going to write to Prime Minister Modi tomorrow and ask him to turn this into a government-funded program.
 
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