La Palma is rumbling - What are the implications of a 40 foot Tsunami along the east coast?

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PotatoSalad4711 said:
Yeah. I don’t know man. It’s sad, but this could go wrong so many ways. The dogs may already have been exposed to toxic gases. I don’t want to think about it.
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I'm trying to figure out how they plan to pick up dogs using a quad copter without human intervention to sedate it and put it in a sling. Harpoon gun?
 
RodgerDodger said:
I'm trying to figure out how they plan to pick up dogs using a quad copter without human intervention to sedate it and put it in a sling. Harpoon gun?
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Have a box that can fit a dog and has a locking and remotely operated door for dog. Put some food in for dog and wait for it to walk in, once in close the door and fly it back. That's just my guess
 
RodgerDodger said:
I'm trying to figure out how they plan to pick up dogs using a quad copter without human intervention to sedate it and put it in a sling. Harpoon gun?
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It seems they are trying to use a giant net with food in the center. I suppose they could lace the food, but the dog needs to be in the very center. It’s really just silly.

RX-78 said:
A man will risk life and limb to save doggo before even thinks about helping his neighbor, this is perfectly understandable.
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I know you’re being sarcastic, but you’re right on this one. I’d just let nature take its course. This seems to have been fueled by a few dumb fucks on Twitter who were outraged and demanded the rescue of the dogs. Unfortunately, there’s probably nothing on this planet more destructive and unpredictable than a volcano.
 
PotatoSalad4711 said:
It seems they are trying to use a giant net with food in the center. I suppose they could lace the food, but the dog needs to be in the very center. It’s really just silly.


I know you’re being sarcastic, but you’re right on this one. I’d just let nature take its course. This seems to have been fueled by a few dumb fucks on Twitter who were outraged and demanded the rescue of the dogs. Unfortunately, there’s probably nothing on this planet more destructive and unpredictable than a volcano.
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This is probably great publicity for the drone company. The only way this could be a bad business move is if they crash the doggo into lava.
 
The company that wants to rescue the dogs has just received the necessary permits to operate in the area. It’s clearly a publicity stunt but hey, we’ll see what happens. (Source)

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An emergency patrol is quickly surrounded by lava:



Lava continues to destroy more buildings:

 
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well as long the dogs are safe idgaf if this is a publicity stunt or not. dying in the lava or in it's toxic fumes is a really nasty way to die, hope they go out safely.
 
Bushcrafts morning report. It’s horrifying seeing the buildings he filmed walking through a week or so ago now being devoured by Lava. Apparently the Sulfur Dioxide output of the volcano is increasing, not decreasing. Which means a lot more lava is rising. This sucker isn’t close to done.
 
RodgerDodger said:
Bushcrafts morning report. It’s horrifying seeing the buildings he filmed walking through a week or so ago now being devoured by Lava. Apparently the Sulfur Dioxide output of the volcano is increasing, not decreasing. Which means a lot more lava is rising. This sucker isn’t close to done.
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Hard to tell in the daylight, but last night, the far/new vent was emitting gases that were burning in the plume. I haven't seen that behaviour from any of the other vents before. This is plainly a new phase of this volcanic activity.
 
dak said:
Hard to tell in the daylight, but last night, the far/new vent was emitting gases that were burning in the plume. I haven't seen that behaviour from any of the other vents before. This is plainly a new phase of this volcanic activity.
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I saw some speculation (granted from some of the more loopy sources) that the volcano may have breached a pocket of oil and natural gas, and that's what is adding some of the thick black smoke and flaming gas clouds. The more geology minded than me can weigh in on whether or not that seems reasonable.
 
RodgerDodger said:
I saw some speculation (granted from some of the more loopy sources) that the volcano may have breached a pocket of oil and natural gas, and that's what is adding some of the thick black smoke and flaming gas clouds. The more geology minded than me can weigh in on whether or not that seems reasonable.
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S037702730700128X

I think it's more likely (from what I can find) that this new vent is releasing methane, which is more common, and comes close to explainin the black clouds (incomplete combustion) and red flame (partial combustion of carbon). Why it's the first vent to release methane like this is still beyond me; I have pretty substantial formal training in chemistry, but none in geology. Also, straight methane won't produce soot like we saw. Maybe there's some weird pressure-driven catalysis going on to make the methane less hydrogenated. I, too, would love to know more if competent folks can direct me.

Meh. The more I think on this, the less certain I am. Have half a mind to just delete this post, but I'll let it stand, as it shows some of my thought process. Certainly great food for thought.
 
More video of the newest vent
This ash column was almost completely black before sunset tonight.
dak said:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S037702730700128X

I think it's more likely (from what I can find) that this new vent is releasing methane, which is more common, and comes close to explainin the black clouds (incomplete combustion) and red flame (partial combustion of carbon). Why it's the first vent to release methane like this is still beyond me; I have pretty substantial formal training in chemistry, but none in geology. Also, straight methane won't produce soot like we saw. Maybe there's some weird pressure-driven catalysis going on to make the methane less hydrogenated. I, too, would love to know more if competent folks can direct me.

Meh. The more I think on this, the less certain I am. Have half a mind to just delete this post, but I'll let it stand, as it shows some of my thought process. Certainly great food for thought.
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Assuming it's not us seeing fire where there isn't, it is a mix of methane burning and black volcanic ash.
 
dak said:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S037702730700128X

I think it's more likely (from what I can find) that this new vent is releasing methane, which is more common, and comes close to explainin the black clouds (incomplete combustion) and red flame (partial combustion of carbon). Why it's the first vent to release methane like this is still beyond me; I have pretty substantial formal training in chemistry, but none in geology. Also, straight methane won't produce soot like we saw. Maybe there's some weird pressure-driven catalysis going on to make the methane less hydrogenated. I, too, would love to know more if competent folks can direct me.

Meh. The more I think on this, the less certain I am. Have half a mind to just delete this post, but I'll let it stand, as it shows some of my thought process. Certainly great food for thought.
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It makes sense to me.

When I burn shit out back in the fire barrell, before the temperature kicks up, and depending on what I'm burning, theres just a plume of thick black smoke. When the temperature rises, and the other combustable shit catches fire, the plume disappears and it's just pure flame and heat.

A volcano might not be carpet, cereal boxes and cumrags, but I imagine that there's a stage where the rock smoulders, before turning in to Lava?
 
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