La Palma is rumbling - What are the implications of a 40 foot Tsunami along the east coast?

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RodgerDodger said:
The USGS reporting threshold is 2.5. Apparently most of the quakes today on la Palma were only detected by local equipment. Only 3 or 4 were even felt by the locals. So they may all be below the reporting and mapping threshold for the web site.
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According to the TV news there were 98 earthquakes on the 4th, about a third over 3 and the largest 3.7. On the 5th there were "just" 48, half over 3, but the largest was 3.9. For today they're a bit more worried about the wind. In the last few days it's been blowing most of the ash and gases out to sea, but it's expected to swing around later which might lead to, among other things, the airport being closed again. Last time they closed it was because the runway was covered in volcanic ash. They clear it by sending out a few blokes with leaf blowers, so it's not a quick process.
 
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To put everything in perspective:

This volcano has released 80 Million Cubic Meters of Lava this year.
Krakatoa of 1883 released about 20,000 Million Cubic Meters of material.
Tambora of 1815 released bout 200,000 Million cubic Meters of material.
The Toba Eruption of 74Ka released about 2,000,000 Million cubic meters of material.

On the bright side, in a few years there will be more real estate on La Palma! And probably better banana crops from the rich Ash.
 
FatalTater said:
100 earthquakes?
Guise, relax. You gotta know that nothing is happening or will happen ever, ya bunch of sillies!
Just trust what the USGS reports. Sure, it hasn't shown a single quake for the Canary Islands but it's science! Trust it!

The site I'm mocking is here

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Puff said:
I wish the motherfucking government would stop hiding things that "might make people panic".
I have no trust in them and am starting to turn into a conspiratard over it
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Loads of them, maybe it's not data from USGS equipment so they can't display another organization's data?

La Palma

Background info, news, activity updates, interactive map about La Palma volcano
www.volcanodiscovery.com
 
plagiarismmaximum said:
Loads of them, maybe it's not data from USGS equipment so they can't display another organization's data?

La Palma

Background info, news, activity updates, interactive map about La Palma volcano
www.volcanodiscovery.com
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Pocket Dragoon said:
My educated guess is they changed the reporting threshold simply to not shit up the page with nothing but La Palma quakes; but in true .gov form fucked it up so now nothing is showing for La Palma at all.
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USGS and EMSC (euro-version of .gov) typically both only report data from their own equiptment. Earthquake apps and programs like Earthquake3D are aggrigators and pull info from multiple sources. EMSC was not reporting quakes on La Palma prior to erruption so they probably sent some equiptment over there to monitor the happening when it started to pop off. Would recommend checking the link on page one for the local data, although it's in Spanish.

And a personal opinion, USGS is trash for reporting in general, events are often omitted or downgraded later compared to other local sources. Always look for the local monitoring feeds if you can.
 
I kind of hope our strangely fascinating buddy Bushcraft Bear has thought through an evac plan in the event things go bad. Can you imagine trying to go about your normal life with this happening next to you?

This was earlier when he spotted the strange white plume coming out of the ground

This is what happens when you run out of Virgin’s to appease the Volcano… and Incel’s don’t count!
 
RodgerDodger said:
I kind of hope our strangely fascinating buddy Bushcraft Bear has thought through an evac plan in the event things go bad.
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I think he'll be fine, barring some sort of Vesuvius-tier eruption.

Also, try watching his earlier bushcraft videos; they're almost like ASMR or something, and are oddly relaxing.
RodgerDodger said:
This was earlier when he spotted the strange white plume coming out of the ground
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It was a large above-ground irrigation tank; I saw drone videos yesterday where the lava flow was pushing against it, but the tank was still intact.
 
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Pocket Dragoon said:
I think he'll be fine, barring some sort of Vesuvius-tier eruption.

Also, try watching his earlier bushcraft videos; they're almost like ASMR or something, and are oddly relaxing.

It was a large above-ground irrigation tank; I saw drone videos yesterday where the lava flow was pushing against it, but the tank was still intact.
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A vesuvius eruption is impossible, so I reckon the worst he has to worry about is the toxic shit he inhales. Even if a collapse of land occurs, there are plenty of safe places on the island. Homeboy spent time looking into it beforehand, pretty confident he'll be fine along with a nice signal boosting. Crazy ass tsunami situation included.
 
RadioactiveMonkeyMan said:
A vesuvius eruption is impossible, so I reckon the worst he has to worry about is the toxic shit he inhales. Even if a collapse of land occurs, there are plenty of safe places on the island. Homeboy spent time looking into it beforehand, pretty confident he'll be fine along with a nice signal boosting. Crazy ass tsunami situation included.
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It's not impossible, just extremely unlikely at this point. There is a ton of Lava coming up from the mantel, and an astonishing amount of pressure. But right now it seems to be releasing it as free flowing lava fountains. The danger is if the main lava flow gets blocked. The real danger is earthquake swarms leading to a shear and massive landslide. Which is what this island is kind of known for.

At this point Vesuvius might be at a greater risk of a Vesuvius type eruption. There seems to be a lot of activity going on locally. Etna and Stromboli have been very active. The thought dead Vulcano just woke up this week. And there have been some deep earthquakes in the region. And Vesuvius is overdue.
 
RodgerDodger said:
It's not impossible, just extremely unlikely at this point. There is a ton of Lava coming up from the mantel, and an astonishing amount of pressure. But right now it seems to be releasing it as free flowing lava fountains. The danger is if the main lava flow gets blocked. The real danger is earthquake swarms leading to a shear and massive landslide. Which is what this island is kind of known for.

At this point Vesuvius might be at a greater risk of a Vesuvius type eruption. There seems to be a lot of activity going on locally. Etna and Stromboli have been very active. The thought dead Vulcano just woke up this week. And there have been some deep earthquakes in the region. And Vesuvius is overdue.
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Yeah, I mean impossible in the sense of me winning the lottery despite not playing. I suppose the numbers I might guess could be right but let's face it, no-one really wins. I do think a shear event is possible at this point, not from the eruption itself but from the quakes resultant upon magmatic flow through new vent areas. I still think it's highly unlikely, but who the fuck knows? Pretty glad I don't live on the east coast all the same.
 
RadioactiveMonkeyMan said:
Yeah, I mean impossible in the sense of me winning the lottery despite not playing. I suppose the numbers I might guess could be right but let's face it, no-one really wins. I do think a shear event is possible at this point, not from the eruption itself but from the quakes resultant upon magmatic flow through new vent areas. I still think it's highly unlikely, but who the fuck knows? Pretty glad I don't live on the east coast all the same.
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I suspect the internet panic over a MEGATSUNAMI!!! actually hitting the US Atlantic Coast are the result of recreational pharmaceuticals. Should the wave cross the ocean it might make life uncomfortable on the various Atlantic Coastal Barrier Beaches, (the selection of which as a place of residency is only slightly more insanely stupid than living next to an active volcano) and not much else. Probably some major sewage backups in the main Northeastern Cities like New York, Boston and Baltimore. Who would notice?
 
RodgerDodger said:
I suspect the internet panic over a MEGATSUNAMI!!! actually hitting the US Atlantic Coast are the result of recreational pharmaceuticals. Should the wave cross the ocean it might make life uncomfortable on the various Atlantic Coastal Barrier Beaches, (the selection of which as a place of residency is only slightly more insanely stupid than living next to an active volcano) and not much else. Probably some major sewage backups in the main Northeastern Cities like New York, Boston and Baltimore. Who would notice?
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Indeed, in the case of Baltimore with the way that city is currently run, what difference does it make?
 
@RodgerDodger Thank you for introducing me to Bushcraft, I'm going to have to binge watch more of him later on. Hope he's taking precautions; I imagine inhaling air sprinkled with volcanic ash isn't good for your lungs...

Here's hoping La Palma gets out of this relatively unscathed and bounces back. I'd love to try their volcano-infused bananas.

Super-Chevy454 said:
Indeed, in the case of Baltimore with the way that city is currently run, what difference does it make?
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Tfw Baltimore gets wiped out, but so does Ocean City (and the rest of Fenwick island). That place doesn't stand a chance with it being less than 10ft above sea level.
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IIRC, the only way in and out is MD-50; I can't imagine how fucked everyone would be if this happened at the peak of tourist season and everything went tits-up with the worst case scenario.
 
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Video archive.


I think Matt is going to request a raise.
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Drone footage of the lava platform taken this morning. The new delta already measures 36 hectares, and a part of the lava river has separated from the main one and it is expected to reach the ocean soon.
 
Just a retard asking a question here-- could the town have been protected by a rampart and ditch for redirecting lava flow?

Not asking if it's economical, just a geology question.
 
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