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Each of those gifted subs is 5 dollars cash, no cut to Kick. That's 10 people who have given them at least $4000 in the, what, 2 years they've been on Kick? Only through the gifted subs mind you, as we now know at least one of these whales was also paying $25 000 directly for a vegas trip, you may infer some amount of paypigging that has not been immortalized by the platform. That's why have a discord full of sycophants.
This also isn't counting the money those same spergs gave them back in their youtube days, where they were the top paypigs even then.
 
Oh excuse me, I didn't know I was speaking to a member of Andy's discord, please tell us what it was like in there. After all you know Andy had a discord, and it was full of degenerate scum. In fact you're making more concrete claims about it than PPP did. You're telling us it's impossible to infer that from the outside so you MUST have been a member, come on man spill the details.
The problem is, by Ashton's own standards he laid out in dealing with RTU's Discord degeneracy, he should have known the nature of what was going on in there. 0% chance he wasn't a member, let's be realistic. Are you trying to argue he never saw what was in there? If he participated in an orgy with them he's certainly not only vaguely acquainted. I think he's less culpable in fostering the situation than Andy but let's not sweep so hard we break the broom.
 
The problem is, by Ashton's own standards he laid out in dealing with RTU's Discord degeneracy, he should have known the nature of what was going on in there. 0% chance he wasn't a member, let's be realistic. Are you trying to argue he never saw what was in there? If he participated in an orgy with them he's certainly not only vaguely acquainted. I think he's less culpable in fostering the situation than Andy but let's not sweep so hard we break the broom.
YEAH EVERYONE JUST LEAVES THAT LITTLE PART OUT THAT HE WENT TO A FUCKING ORGY WITH THEM. He wasn't just some bystander.
 
This also isn't counting the money those same spergs gave them back in their youtube days, where they were the top paypigs even then.
Or the gum road that had 1000 subs at $10+ in 2022 that persip leaked last night on stream from a convo with Ashton. Or the donos that are hidden like cog or ralph's paypal donos.
 
The show was good last few months because the content was good not because the "dynamic" they are having. I admit Andy is alright in (very) small doses but even clip channel cannot do miracles. Maybe PPP should try out some new people on Andy place? This Steve guy seems competent and maybe he doesn't have wierd paypigs buying friendship.
Andy obviously didn't detract at least onscreen for many people considering ppp made more with Andy vs not. Andy got big piling on easy targets feeding opinions back to people or finding little moments of jokes or occasional bits of observation

I think pretending Andy is this pure leech is just ineffective because ppp knows otherwise. Rather I think warski is just an unstable foundation for anything it still might well collapse killing ppp but telling him it provides nothing in the meantime won't really work.

It's been done since persip and godwinson took a swing and i don't get it because it just seems a really basic failure in thinking in not understanding you finding something trash even if you're justified doesn't mean alot of people disagree allowing it to be successful.
 
That's what PPP said though he wouldn't criticize Andy as "acting as a big man on Discord" if he didnt at least see one of Andy's posts there. And at the same time he characterized everyone in it as scum, he characterized it as a degenerate server and went on a mass banning spree not just of metokur masochist but fucking everyone in it from his KC chat by the looks of it. Yes i am going by his own words and actions aka what he typed in that chat. If it was just Metokur Masochist being weird he would just ban Metokur Masochist. So stop with your homosexual little semantics games with me, you know exactly what i am talking about.
I think maybe the issue here is that PPP saw the money MM was bringing in and turned a blind eye to things he shouldn't have.

Which is unfortunate, and a mistake.

It would be funny if @Balldo's Gate's info dump on MM actually shocked PPP back to his senses, and gave PPP the excuse to finally pull the trigger on MM. The timing seems about right.

The question is where do they go from here? PPP could dump Warski and try doing something else, or he could try to keep the KC going with Andy. If he's gonna do the latter, he's GOT to keep Tardski in check though. Without any sort of guidance, Andy will always fuck up eventually.
 
The problem is, by Ashton's own standards he laid out in dealing with RTU's Discord degeneracy, he should have known the nature of what was going on in there. 0% chance he wasn't a member, let's be realistic. Are you trying to argue he never saw what was in there? If he participated in an orgy with them he's certainly not only vaguely acquainted. I think he's less culpable in fostering the situation than Andy but let's not sweep so hard we break the broom.
I'm arguing we don't know there was anything to see because so far nobody has leaked the discord the MM posts we currently have are from ifunny. If MM kept his shit buttoned up in his chats with you, and then later you find out he's a lolicon, you would still be disgusted and call it a degen discord. All becomes gunt is implying that turn of phrase proves MM was posting loli in the discord, and I'm saying no it doesn't, that's all.
 
The CQ debate is so strange to me.

If you're sitting in a corner in a chair watching your friend(s) fuck a girl, and you aren't fucking, you're close enough to a cuck. Case closed.

I ain't calling it "The Voyeur Chair", I'm calling it the cuck chair.
This, there should NEVER be a scenario where you, as a man, are sitting in a room watching another man fucking a woman (or another man fucking a man.....). Especially not if you're jerking off to it. That should just never fucking happen. There is no good reason for you to ever be in that situation. It's weird and creepy, ontop of being cucked. PPP may not have been jerking it, but why then was he even in the room, as someone not participating? Why didn't he leave the room like Iron?

It's also not very Christian-like.
 
I think maybe the issue here is that PPP saw the money MM was bringing in and turned a blind eye to things he shouldn't have.

Which is unfortunate, and a mistake.

It would be funny if @Balldo's Gate's info dump on MM actually shocked PPP back to his senses, and gave PPP the excuse to finally pull the trigger on MM. The timing seems about right.

The question is where do they go from here? PPP could dump Warski and try doing something else, or he could try to keep the KC going with Andy. If he's gonna do the latter, he's GOT to keep Tardski in check though. Without any sort of guidance, Andy will always fuck up eventually.
Yeah but still that doesn't erase he went to that PPPDiddy party in Vegas with those discord degens he now condemns. They didnt force him to be there, the motherfucker is 700lbs, none of these faggots can even lift half of him.

I'm arguing we don't know there was anything to see because so far nobody has leaked the discord the MM posts we currently have are from ifunny. If MM kept his shit buttoned up in his chats with you, and then later you find out he's a lolicon, you would still be disgusted and call it a degen discord. All becomes gunt is implying that turn of phrase proves MM was posting loli in the discord, and I'm saying no it doesn't, that's all.

I don't know at this point if you are sweeping or if you are the most retarded person on the planet, maybe both. I NEVER SAID OR IMPLIED THIS PROVES THAT HE POSTED LOLI IN THE DISCORD EITHER. DO YOU READ MY POSTS EVEN ?
ALL I SAID WAS THAT PPP KNOWS "EVERYONE IN THERE IS SCUM" AND "THE SERVER IS DEGENERATE AS A WHOLE". AND THEREFORE I CAN LOGICALLY DEDUCT HE HAD AT LEAST SOME BASIC KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS GOING IN THAT "DEGENERATE SERVER" CONSIDERING HE ALSO ATTENDED AN ORGY WITH THEM. AND ALSO THAT JUDGING BY METOKUR MASOCHIST BEING IN THERE IT WASNT VANILLA.
LEARN TO FUCKING READ
 
I’ve noticed a bifurcation of the show over the past few weeks: there was the main show with PPP & Warski and then PPP would leave and Warski invited his paypig sycophants from Discord onto the stream to play games.

Although these post shows were originally Q&As, Warski gradually replaced them with playing games with the paypigs. MM was never on these streams but Psycho and a few others were on. The viewership would immediately collapse as well since most people come onto the show to watch PPP’s takes. So while the paypigs appear to be Warski’s, the viewers are mainly PPP’s.

Additionally Warski has his own Kick channel yet never streams on it. He uses Ashton’s Kick channel to play his game thinking it’ll keep the viewership and potential ddddonos up.
 
I think maybe the issue here is that PPP saw the money MM was bringing in and turned a blind eye to things he shouldn't have.
100% you throw them enough money whatever sins you may be carrying are washed away
People are posting the “Andy Warski chatted with a 17 year old on Snapchat” screenshots again on Xitter. Just sayin.
One of the many side effects of the eyes on them now. Warski especially has mountains of past problems that new people will see.
 
Every streamer Josh befriends (Ethan Ralph, Dax, Nick Rekieta, now the Kino Casino crew) spirals into degeneracy

He is cursed
 
I've just realized this entire debacle occurred a mere two weeks after Null went on the Casino. I specifically remember him saying something along the lines that everyone in the Sektur implodes after he talks to them and that he hopes the Casino doesn't. Poor Null.
If only they had read the Mr. Nubly comic, this all never would have happened.
 
I'm arguing we don't know there was anything to see because so far nobody has leaked the discord the MM posts we currently have are from ifunny. If MM kept his shit buttoned up in his chats with you, and then later you find out he's a lolicon, you would still be disgusted and call it a degen discord. All becomes gunt is implying that turn of phrase proves MM was posting loli in the discord, and I'm saying no it doesn't, that's all.
The issue here is that @All becomes gunt is right. PPP didn't just say it's a degen Discord. He said he tolerated it so that Andy could be a "big man on Discord." That strongly suggests foreknowledge of what was going on. Maybe not with super specificity, but enough to know whatever was going on wasn't good.

I appreciate PPP admits his fuckup here (something few people in the sektur do), but it's still a fuckup. He didn't tard wrangle his co-host hard enough, and this is the result.

Every streamer Josh befriends (Ethan Ralph, Dax, Nick Rekieta, now the Kino Casino crew) spirals into degeneracy

He is cursed
I hope not. Because one of those is Sean.
 
Also it's now FACTUALLY ACCURATE to say that PPP has seen Warski's penis. Think about that.
worse than that depending on the angle PPP has seen Andy's starfish and possibly Andy's tard grimace as he coomed into the probably trans nigger hooker.
Andy: " oh ffffFuck I'mmm Ccccumming Ashton".
 
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