Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker - Won an Oscar

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What will the combined score of shootings blamed on "Joker" be after opening weekend?

  • 0

    Votes: 13 11.7%

  • 1-10

    Votes: 23 20.7%

  • 11-20

    Votes: 3 2.7%

  • 21-39

    Votes: 5 4.5%

  • 40+

    Votes: 67 60.4%
  • Total voters
    111
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Also that kid he's forcing to smile is 100% Bruce Wayne. Calling that shit now.

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I also love that they call him an 'Incel' but he has a wife and kid and is taking care of his mom, and just a blue collar guy trying to make it. Progtards REALLY hate the working class these days. The whole movie is a commentary on class corruption which is why Thomas Wayne is 'Trump-like', its to contrast the wealth of the top with the poor down below and just how disparate and desperate it is. I mean holy fucking shit, you'd think communists would be all 'YASS KQWWWEEEN' for a class war film, but nope.

Joker, a working class man who was destroyed by the rich who didn't care about the problems of the poor at all, rebels and seeks to destroy the institutions that destroyed him by not giving a fuck. ITS A FUCKING COMMUNIST FILM. YOU SUPPORT SOCIALISM. God, I swear these people are all fucking dumb as dogshit. He's even in an interracial relationship. I'm just like, bewildered here. Its like watching speds try to make sense of 'Grapes of Wrath'.

"OH ARE WE TO SIDE WITH THE DIRTY POOR WHITES, EWW"

Fuck this clown world we live in.
 
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I kinda hate the Joker. The whole "villain bathing his mother" thing was lifted straight from the comics, only it was a Penguin comic. Why not have him say 'Riddle me this' and have him fly his goblin glider over the Brooklyn Bridge?
 
"The Joker" is "alt-right" and the film will be denounced by organizations like the SPLC, based on this shocking evidence:
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From some of the reactions I've seen, there are people who think the movie is going to seriously be like...this...

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SkeletonBias420 said:
I've seen this mentioned in a few other threads and it might as well have its own thread on the topic.

Joaquin Phoenix is set to play the Joker in a film centered on the character from director Todd Phillips with Martin Scorsese producing.
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I'm open minded on this one. It's hard to get excited about it, but it does seem to be isolated from the DC cinematic universe trainwreck and the Joker doesn't look like a juggalo edgelord this time. The set photos seem to have some deliberate nods to John Wayne Gacy and Pennywise with some of the clown outfits.
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Aren't people getting overloaded on the cape-shit franchise already? I mean it only seems recently that the last Batman movie with the Joke in it was a thing.
 
I saw at one point in the trailer Arthur wrote out "The worst part of having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't."

I can't really respond to something like that without saying "ouch."
 
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I agree it may look a bit like Taxi Driver or Falling Down.

I was about making a new thread, but I used the search button first. It's difficult to decide which of the two Jokers I prefer now, Heather Ledger may be the best Joker ever, but I guess the newest one presents a more humanized version, whether the previous one was notably edgier. As edgy as Nikolas Cruz disguised as Coldsteel the Hedheheg at the shooting range, while using a Columbiner TEC-DC90, and wearing sunglasses (mandatory school shooter quotes too, of course).
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Yeah it pretty much stays in the same vein as these other movies. I think it will be passable, but due to Phoenixs' acting and the fact DC desperately needs and people want a good Joker film, it will get huge raves and word of mouth.

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The only real problem I have with it, is the background with the shoehorned in various aspects of other Batman villains. And going with the clown aspect so hard, in an attempt to distance themselves with other versions. I didn't like Heath Ledgers portrayal of the Joker, BUT his was the best written incarnation of the character so far. However I think Ledger reminded me too much of Tommy Lee Jones playing Two Face in Batman Forever, constantly jerking and licking his lips like a stereotypical crazy person.
 
I don't care much for the movie. But I'll post about the "muh White Devil" bits.

The Leftie has degenerated to the point of not accepting anyone coded as a Straight White Male who commits acts of cruelty being framed in a sympathetic light without being framed as an "ally." The SWM is the Low Man. The last one to be exterminated before utopia is achieved.

You need to understand the following:

A. The Left has to contrive a narrative to address all the failure and/or dysfunction in their policies and victim groups like Niggers.

B. The Left does not have a solid way to address human depravity with a mature way to deal with it.

The Leftoid/Post-Christian/Modern is in the awkward position where they don't have a solid background whether the world/"humanity" is inherently "good" with "evil" an intrusive presence or if it is all foul by nature. The White Devil VS The Noble Savage narrative is just a manifestation of this problem. They maintain that the Straight White Male is the only unconditional "evil" in this universe, with everyone else only victims of their societies or treachery.
 
The Estatist said:
I don't care much for the movie. But I'll post about the "muh White Devil" bits.

The Leftie has degenerated to the point of not accepting anyone coded as a Straight White Male who commits acts of cruelty being framed in a sympathetic light without being framed as an "ally." The SWM is the Low Man. The last one to be exterminated before utopia is achieved.

You need to understand the following:

A. The Left has to contrive a narrative to address all the failure and/or dysfunction in their policies and victim groups like Niggers.

B. The Left does not have a solid way to address human depravity with a mature way to deal with it.

The Leftoid/Post-Christian/Modern is in the awkward position where they don't have a solid background whether the world/"humanity" is inherently "good" with "evil" an intrusive presence or if it is all foul by nature. The White Devil VS The Noble Savage narrative is just a manifestation of this problem. They maintain that the Straight White Male is the only unconditional "evil" in this universe, with everyone else only victims of their societies or treachery.
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lol nigga it's just a movie, calm down.
 
iRON-mAn said:
I didn't even realise that was from a comic and I got heavy Penguin vibes from that scene.
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Said comic was really good too. The Penguin was obligated to bathe her because he murdered everyone else that could come between them.

Scorsese doesn't make bad movies, so I'm sure this will be fine. It just irritates me that other classic characters of American fiction are being being ravaged to give depth to a character whose defining characteristic is randomness.
 
YayLasagna said:
I saw at one point in the trailer Arthur wrote out "The worst part of having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't."

I can't really respond to something like that without saying "ouch."
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Yeah, this is so true. You have to behave like you don't have one or everyone is uncomfortable because nobody actually gives a fuck, but they know they need to be sympathetic because society tells them that but they really don't want to.

I like that its basically a character study, and its really probably not going to be 'the' Joker from the comics. I think that the Joker always needs the foil of Batman and without him something is sort of lost there. I don't think it will be very comic-book like except for the Joker concept and the Gotham references. Joaquin Pheonix said basically he didn't want to do normal capeshit, but something like this.

I mean, I find the concept enjoyable. You're supposed to empathize and sympathize with Arthur at the beginning, but obviously as he degenerates you see he's a product of a failed system that doesn't care about him, His reaction is extreme because the suffering he experiences is extreme. He's probably going to lose everyone in his life thanks to the shitty city and the people in charge, which is why the figure is 'Trumpian'. I don't mean literally like Trump, just a callous billionaire type. Fuck, this might be why his son becomes a Philanthropist, because he saw what his father was doing. I dunno, I find myself really liking the movie more on a cinematic level than really some comic book movie. I confess I like alternate takes on things and this is a pretty big alternate take on the Joker.

But that being said there are fucking annoying cunts on both sides saying "IS JOKER GOING SJW?!?!?!?!" "IS JOKER AN INCEL FAN MOVIE??!?!" and its like Jesus fucking Christ. Its a character study movie, why the fuck do you think the people involved are involved? Pheonix basically loves character studies, Scorsese does too, and so does Todd Howard to an extent. That's basically what this movie is.

But of course, we've got all this faggotry and we can't just discuss cinema anymore without some cunts getting political in both directions.

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And to be fair, most of the 'Incel' stuff is coming from fucktarded blue checkmarks on Twitter, not the movie reviewers or community in and of itself. So it isn't like reviewers are panning it.
 
Chester Rigby said:
Midnight's Edge is always relevant:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9INSh-CjRfo
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I think they should use the Flashpoint movie to soft reboot Batman and Superman then move on from there. BvS and Justice League licked cock and balls, but a cohesive universe is still manageable if they recast them and move forward as if neither of those films existed.
 
I wasn't really blown away by the teaser, honestly. Maybe because after Nolan's movies I'm pretty much done with any cinema version of Batman. Or maybe because, when I see the full makeup, I can't stop my mind from going to the Insane Clown Posse. Or because I just fucking hate clowns.

But I do love Phoenix and character studies in general, and I like that DC dared to do this with a big name character. Not that they were risking a great cinematic legacy.

I hope it's great and Marvel fans get upset.
 
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