Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

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What an incredibly stupid idea. Specialize your life into a niche and hope that a partner materializes, otherwise LOL you’re not only single for life but now tied to some bizarre niche.
Listen, my advice is "get really into something you genuinely enjoy and don't be mean and gross, and you'll have better luck than Tinder doomswiping". No one should fake being into a hobby to meet women, since A) it's obvious when people do that and B) that sounds miserable.
 
Listen, my advice is "get really into something you genuinely enjoy and don't be mean and gross, and you'll have better luck than Tinder doomswiping". No one should fake being into a hobby to meet women, since A) it's obvious when people do that and B) that sounds miserable.
What an incredibly stupid idea. Specialize your life into a niche and hope that a partner materializes, otherwise LOL you’re not only single for life but now tied to some bizarre niche.
He's not wrong. I can't even tell you how many women have come up to me while I'm fishing. Yes, fishing. I don't think I'm that attractive. But sometimes women will come up and ask if they can hold my pole and pose for photos with their friends. Sometimes they'll ask to cast or if I've caught anything. Sometimes kids will come up and I'll let them try and catch something. Sometimes people will cheer and clap when I get something decent. As long as you're in public, you have shot.

However, the real meat and potatoes isn't meeting someone while I'm at that activity. The real meat and potatoes are meeting a girl and being like "Yeah you can come sometime if you want." And being good at it so it impressed them. Having something you can show off a little in, *gasp* will get you laid. It's really not rocket science. But if your hobby involves her sitting around watching you Platinum Trophy Helldivers and not something you can do together, you'll have a rough time. You want to know why women hate video games so much (outside of taking attention away from them)? Nothing is 2 players anymore. You can't do it together. No chick is interested in sitting there watching you play something.
 
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I'm gonna kill myself over singleness I think
I never seriously considered suicide, but the few times I toyed with the thought I always came to the conclusion if I was desperate enough to do it, I'd rather do something exciting and radical with my life regardless of circumstance or possible risks.

And by that I don't mean perpetrating a mass shooting. More something like selling everything you have and moving to Iceland to work on a fishing boat.

Might give you a new outlook on life and it can't be much worse than what you have now if you're considering the KYS option.
 
I never seriously considered suicide, but the few times I toyed with the thought I always came to the conclusion if I was desperate enough to do it, I'd rather do something exciting and radical with my life regardless of circumstance or possible risks.

And by that I don't mean perpetrating a mass shooting. More something like selling everything you have and moving to Iceland to work on a fishing boat.

Might give you a new outlook on life and it can't be much worse than what you have now if you're considering the KYS option.
Playing the "nothing to lose" card isn't a bad option. Whether you like it or not, you're alive. You're going to be dead for eternity anyways, what's another few decades? I kind of feel an impetus to continue waking up and going about my life, even when I struggle to find a reason. I just don't have anything better to do, is that so hard to understand!?
 
I never seriously considered suicide, but the few times I toyed with the thought I always came to the conclusion if I was desperate enough to do it, I'd rather do something exciting and radical with my life regardless of circumstance or possible risks.

And by that I don't mean perpetrating a mass shooting. More something like selling everything you have and moving to Iceland to work on a fishing boat.

Might give you a new outlook on life and it can't be much worse than what you have now if you're considering the KYS option.
I was being a bit hyperbolic. I'm not at any such point right now, but I'm unsure how many more years of this I have in me
 
Or take one of my friends, who basically selects boyfriends based on how good at Smash Ultimate they are.
That sounds too autistic to be true.
In short, stop seeking sex and start seeking for a meaningful relationship.
Aren't incels always bitching that they can't have that? that if they just wanted sex they would go to a hooker?
You'd assume otherwise, but the entomology department and entomology society at my school are almost entirely women.
Weird, all entomologists I've ever seen were men, boomers mostly. Never seen women to be much into bugs, hell besides entomologists the only other group are autistic asians (male).
This is cursed, but female-centric nerdy circles are completely losing gatekeeping as a result of pooners.
I don't think that's the same as getting men in, is like how lesbians will date a pooner but wont date a tranny lesbian because they know the former is still a woman while the later is a man.
I'm not sure where I heard this from but there's a theory about incels being the spawn of toxic mothers and broken households.
Theory? practically all incels I seen said they were the product of a single mom.
but these Zoomers are going to hit 30 soon enough
Already have, the oldest zoomers are officially 30 now, oldest millennials are in their early 40s.

How old are you anyway? just asking.
 
I think something that's not quite been discussed with the impact of prawn addiction is that the same energy that's causing men (and women, as an aside the barely-even-a-story YA smut section at my local bookstore has been on an incredible blitzkrieg over the past year) is the same one which fuels creative pursuits (which is why a great number famous artists have been single) meaning that the west is missing out on a massive amount of cultural generation.

And something else that people don't seem to like to touch is premarital sex. This has been an outright nuclear bomb on both men and women. The amount of relationships I've seen that all follow the same formula of:
-Start a relationship for the sex
-its goes okay for the first 2-3 months
-uh oh an argument happens
-sex stops
-relationship implodes

Ideally we would role back votes for women. And then voting for the poor. Then for men at all. Then we go back to having a king (this would be me).
Get a load of this closet case - using politics to disguise how badly he wants to be dominated by another male. Just go get fucked in the ass already dude, its 2025 nobody cares anymore.
 
I never seriously considered suicide, but the few times I toyed with the thought I always came to the conclusion if I was desperate enough to do it, I'd rather do something exciting and radical with my life regardless of circumstance or possible risks.
I always despised suicide with a great passion. It reeks of weakness. To me, there's nothing weaker and more pathetic than taking your own life. It says you give up and its admitting defeat. Outside of going full blown "God Bless America" or martyring yourself, there's no point in it. It just means you're a weak, pathetic, coward.
 
They get guys that should have been out of their league, leaving the 3s and 4s men with nothing but staring into the abyss contemplating the futility & hopelessness of their existence.
Yes, that is how it is supposed to be, men from 18-80 are competing for women from 18-40, there is an abundance of horny men compared to a limited supply of woman willing to date.

Also among these women a significant amount is willing to stay single and content with getting fucked twice a month by some good looking dude on the side.

Men that are below average looking simply have no place in this market, they have negative value. Like rationally why the fuck would any woman date them? For what reason?

For women who are below average it is different because they are still in short supply so they can get someone around 5-7 just because of supply and demand.
 
Aren't incels always bitching that they can't have that? that if they just wanted sex they would go to a hooker?
That's exactly the point niggas often miss. Man, I swear, there's people who want to try and be empathetic with incels only to miss the point by a thousand miles.
Yeah, except that's not a good enough answer.
That's the answer you'll have not the answer you want to hear. You're gonna have to face the facts.
I need a way to teach my children to navigate this world
Nigga, you be spawning Alpha Gen. That's Gen Z with twice the brainrot and hopelessness.

Your children will be the first ones to not take any bullshit you tell them seriously.
they're going to realize how much they've absolutely FUCKED their lives over.
Boo hoo, they couldn't get a GF so now it's over. Incels were already fucked way before hitting 30.
However, I refused to let that be the case for my 20s and time in college.
Another Millennial thinking that life should be like an American Pie script.
 
Nigga, you be spawning Alpha Gen. That's Gen Z with twice the brainrot and hopelessness.
It's easy to not make retarded children. You know how you don't make retarded children? You spend time with them. Time on schoolwork. Check over your kids homework. Make sure they understand what's going on and make sure it's right. You teach your kids to not be retarded, then they won't be. Unfortunately that message was completely lost on millennial parents. So a lot of their kids do come out retarded, but some don't.

Another Millennial thinking that life should be like an American Pie script.
You know, this might be hard for you understand, but you can have a successful life and still have gone through several "American Pie" tier moments. I've had plenty of nights that unironically play out like a script out sitcom or movie. You know what? They had no impact on my business and professional life. Believe it or not, you can have fun in life. It's called a work-life balance. And believe it or not, it helps to have a few really funny stories to tell in life.
 
The actual incels I've met irl were bullied at school (by other males, although maybe the girls laughed along and that was super traumatising or something) and now want to bully someone else which will be a woman because women are smaller than them and they'd never have the guts to square up to a man. It's literally the thing about everything being about sex but sex is about power and why their idea of sex has nothing to do with actually connecting with a woman. But women won't tolerate that and stick around to be abused and that is an outrage. Instead they go fuck chad who is definitely their or someone else's former school bully and not a decent normal man.
I have no idea what their relationships with their mothers were like, but literally all of them wanted to be the school bully but were too socially retarded to be able to.
I have no idea how you fix that, I don't think it's fixable.

I think loneliness in general has more to do with everyone having to move around for work and finding it hard to stay in one place to build a community. If you're in a big city, you can be next door to a great match and never know it because there's no way of getting to know anyone except chance, and people can't be bothered to put in the effort because you'll probably have to move one borough over in a year or two anyway. This also applies to gen alphas via their parents.
 
It's easy to not make retarded children. You know how you don't make retarded children? You spend time with them. Time on schoolwork. Check over your kids homework. Make sure they understand what's going on and make sure it's right. You teach your kids to not be retarded, then they won't be. Unfortunately that message was completely lost on millennial parents. So a lot of their kids do come out retarded, but some don't.
Hearing this from a Millenial is funny as fuck.
I've had plenty of nights that unironically play out like a script out sitcom or movie.
Of course you'd thought that since you've been raised in front of a TV.
Believe it or not, you can have fun in life.
Yeah, but your idea of "fun" involves degeneracy. And then you be like "ZoOmErS WaTcH tOo MuCh PoRn! ZOMG!"
 
This is what some fools here are denying.
I find this funny and kind of relevant in this thread. That lower right corner text 🧐

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If all else fails, you at least have Call of Duty and WWE. Of course, modern CoD is trying to be Fortnite now so, meh
 
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Aren't incels always bitching that they can't have that? that if they just wanted sex they would go to a hooker?
Some are. Plenty of them say that they are so "low-value" that even hookers would reject them, and that's the reason they don't think that's an option
 
>everquest

Now that's OLD!
I never played it but a kid on the bus was enthusiastic about it, I wonder if he's posting on incel forums now? I'm joking of course, we both came of age before that phenomenon either way.

What kinds of hobbies are incels most likely to have anyway?
 
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