I dont get why so many hate anime?

[The Lawgiver]

Gi joe's main character isn't a 12 year old girl meant for the audience to fantasize fucking.

... Is inspector gadget safe, then?

 

[LightDragonman1]

*Warning for yet more autistic ranting*

Man, now all of a sudden, it’s the art style that is being put under the light in terms of anime. And it is going back to the whole “anime is catered to pedos” stuff again.

Anime is capable of a variety of different styles depending on the artist, studio, and yes, what the audience it is aiming for is. Honestly, it’s one reason why I am a fan of the medium.

Yes, there are ones that choose the more recognizable styles because that is what is expected of them, but you can also find ones that go more experimental and even grounded. It just depends on the kind of show it is.

Plus, in an age where every single character has to be made plain and boring because of “muh realism”, I much prefer the more colorful and attractive anime character designs.

As for many shows featuring teenage characters as the heroes, apparently, it has something to do with not just the target audience, but also because youthful innocence and determination are big in Japanese culture in terms of admiration.

GI Joe was brought up as a counterpoint in terms of older characters in a kids show, and I’d argue that that sort of military focused story, unless it involves more fantastical elements like mechs, doesn’t really resonate with the Japanese audience as much as a Western one.

That said, there are plenty of anime that do feature more mature characters, and even some that feature younger characters can still tackle heavy themes.

Once more, it depends on what you pick to watch.

 

[Ah ha']

Eh classic anime are weird and good.

But most modern anime are either cringe, poorly written, or relate to the japanese life more than anything.

Being anime or indie doesn't excuse poor writing. Asians can't write stuff like eldritch horror, medieval fantasy, etc.

I'm tired of classic anime tropes, like the pervy dude, the autistic protagonist without personality that everyone loves, the bully that is bitter and mean fnr, etc.

Japanese culture can be too much. Everything in highschool/revolving around highschool. The chinese myths are only so entertaining; imagine if everything fantasy from the west was just fairy tales, etc.

To add to this train of thought, a lot of the good Anime is already curated for you! Just like a lot of media!

You can watch Anime and enjoy it, and you dont have to mindlessly slog through the flavour of the month, there is plenty of good shows that you can watch at your own pace.

Personally for me I always wanted to do stuff like go to a convention, but I just didn’t have the means. I finally went to one once and I met a lot of nice people who put a lot of effort into their cosplay, and I only met two wierdo crossdressers.

The sincerest anime fans that want to dress up and cosplay as Goku know that to get into character you have to get jacked first, be that type of anime fan.

 

[斯尼 德之王]

If it weren't for the fact that anime retards are overpopulating the Internet and Josh needs al the traffic he can get, all anime discourse would have been banned years ago.

It isn't a meme and Josh is right. Most of the users on the forum can't stand anime retards and If anime were to dissappear nothing of value would be lost.

 

[3deadniggers]

The YA ones 100% have merch and shit. Or did you forget the child soldiers against the wizard terrorists arc of harry potter? There's a lot more than just that one but that one's funny because dobby dies.

Are you seriously comparing Harry Potter to what you claim is a serious story exploring PTSD in child soldiers? Is Trump literally Voldermort too?

Plus, in an age where every single character has to be made plain and boring because of “muh realism”, I much prefer the more colorful and attractive anime character designs.

As for many shows featuring teenage characters as the heroes, apparently, it has something to do with not just the target audience, but also because youthful innocence and determination are big in Japanese culture in terms of admiration.

So you want young attractive teenagers with neon hair colours and easy to read facial expressions? So you're an autistic pedophile? This is what we mean when we're anti-anime. Japan's culture is fucked and exporting it to the West brought the worst elements of it. None of the positive traits made it over, just the weird sexual stuff. In the 90's Japan's weird sex stuff was the butt of jokes constantly. Now it's a life style we document on the farms.

If it weren't for the fact that anime retards are overpopulating the Internet and Josh needs al the traffic he can get, all anime discourse would have been banned years ago.

It isn't a meme and Josh is right. Most of the users on the forum can't stand anime retards and If anime were to dissappear nothing of value would be lost.

I don't agree with Null very often but I'm with him on this. Ban anime!

 

[Raging Capybara]

Japan apparently has a culture where they don't value originality

How delusional is this nigger?

Tell me the last time marvel and disney slop ware original, cocksucker.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Are you seriously comparing Harry Potter to what you claim is a serious story exploring PTSD in child soldiers? Is Trump literally Voldermort too?

Acting like me bringing up Dobby dying in the trenches of skeletal wizard mafia warfare is somehow equivalent to whatever shit you're coming up with won't bring him back, i'm sorry. I know it's been hard on you since he died. Seriously though don't pull this gay ass reddit shit where you frame shit as meaning whatever perceived political thing instead of what it's actually about lmao.

Tell me the last time marvel and disney slop ware original, cocksucker.

Both were kinda original before disney went into "buy out and poz everything" phase. The marvel buyout was in retrospect disatrous for any form of originality in capeshit and complete subversion of existing original ideas.

Like for instance MODOK went from "man tortured and disfigured into a big headed cripple turns his captors into his slaves" to uh...

What they did to spiderman might be a better example in terms of direct pop culture character assassination on a bigger scale, but I feel what happened with MODOK really captures the vibe of what I'm trying to show here.

 

[LightDragonman1]

So you want young attractive teenagers with neon hair colours and easy to read facial expressions? So you're an autistic pedophile? This is what we mean when we're anti-anime. Japan's culture is fucked and exporting it to the West brought the worst elements of it. None of the positive traits made it over, just the weird sexual stuff. In the 90's Japan's weird sex stuff was the butt of jokes constantly. Now it's a life style we document on the farms.

Okay then, not sure where this diatribe came from.

I don’t want all anime to be like that. Heck, some of the anime that I like such as Cowboy Bebop and Psycho Pass feature adult characters with relatively subdued colorings.

What I’m saying is that, in an age where nearly every Western work has to be uglified for the sake of “realism”, it’s nice to see attractive designs for once. And not all just for young and/or teenage characters mind you.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Okay then, not sure where this diatribe came from.

It's either intentionally inflammatory shitposting or post 2020 reddit brainworms leading to bad faith shit to try and suck up to opinions of people with authority of some kind. Same way you end up with shit getting spun into "oh you think trump is voldemort!!" or whatever over me bringing up a shriveled elf bastard that dies having an odd amount of merch of western properties in the style that was being talked about as having "no merch existing like that".

Said it before and I'll probably say it 100 times more, but I genuinely kinda dislike the current state of animation industry shit on all fronts/countries right now. I still appreciate the artform but there's like this general air especially in online talks about cartoons either japan, US, or whatever that's always this fake gay shit. You have people unironically out one mouth claiming an entire countries output is pedo stuff and then promoting cartoons or live action shows made by people who drew ed edd and eddy porno or got real kids to sent them feetpics or some other disgusting shit. That kind of thing has happening for like at least a little over a decade now, and keeps gettng worse. It shows no signs of stopping either, because it's short term gratification stuff, even moreso than any over produced disney/marvel or anime sludge could ever be. It's either that or nearly everyone covering or talking about media in the US is a pedo, which I REALLY don't think is the case. I also really do not want it to be the case either. Anyways, to end off this rambling, California's parasites that perpetuate the current year eternal are already embedded deep in japan's media industry. in the next few years you're probably gonna see just how much worse it's gonna get in terms of raw sludge and potential pedo content.

Running on not much sleep today while taking care of dog again, some shit might have ended up scrambled sounding but need to get these thoughts out somewhere.

 

[3deadniggers]

Okay then, not sure where this diatribe came from.

I don’t want all anime to be like that. Heck, some of the anime that I like such as Cowboy Bebop and Psycho Pass feature adult characters with relatively subdued colorings.

What I’m saying is that, in an age where nearly every Western work has to be uglified for the sake of “realism”, it’s nice to see attractive designs for once. And not all just for young and/or teenage characters mind you.

This is always the weeb answer. "It's pretty so I like it more than ugly western cartoons / marvel movies". Which might be valid, but it's also very shallow and why many of us have grown hostile to anime. You're blind to the problems with anime because you think the other childish options are worse than it. Anime's reputation would be far less negative if anime fans had any frame of reference for things outside of shallow pop culture. Anime fans read manga, poorly written long winded novels, watch anime and play video games. They're hollow people built on consuming a foreign culture they barely understand because it fills time between sleeping. And then they constantly have to talk about it or reference it in public spaces because it's such a core part of who they are. They're consumer zombies and have no reference outside of childish media aimed at 12 year old autistic bug people.


"Relatively subdued colorings" featuring a woman wearing yellow latex hot pants, stockings and a tight jacket.

It's either intentionally inflammatory shitposting or post 2020 reddit brainworms leading to bad faith shit to try and suck up to opinions of people with authority of some kind.

Are you okay? You're posting word salad and trying to discredit people's opinions because you can't argue with them. Go take a break, stop watching cartoons and get your head on straight.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Are you okay? You're posting word salad and trying to discredit people's opinions because you can't argue with them. Go take a break, stop watching cartoons and get your head on straight.

Read my actual post next time before projecting lmao. If you're just messing around (which I genuinely hope you are) you're trying too hard at this point.

We black people posting now?

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Nope, I get it.

 

[Großmann]

Any story that's part of the anime industry is designed to appeal to otakus. A quick google tells me you can buy body pillows of the main character in her underwear on Amazon. Sasha Grey didn't stop looking like a whore just because she tried to act in some low budget horror movies. If you want to do a serious story then change the art style up and don't make your main character look exactly like one of the otaku waifu poster children.

To the show’s defense, the merchandise out there is largely fan-made. It definitely says something about anime fans, but I wouldn’t pin that necessarily on the show. That said, I agree that waifu culture is the reason why the main character is a female. Given Kyoto Animation’s portfolio, I can’t imagine that this wasn’t a conscious choice when signing up to animate it.

 

[skykiii]

(if trannies can hate Harry Potter on a dime for not aligning with their values, I should do the same thing with anime),

.... Because as we all know, trannies are the people whose enhanced thinking and superior way of life is what we should all aspire to?

I mean, your rant is you like a lot of anime aspects but wish you didn't because of some bullshit values. You're sounding like those guys in the 1980s who think they're not allowed to like Dungeons & Dragons because it has demons in it. There's an old saying: "The definition of a puritan is a person who lives in abject terror that someone, anyone, anywhere, is having a good time."

If your values are preventing you from enjoying harmless fun, then your values suck.

... Is inspector gadget safe, then?

I thought for sure you were gonna post a picture of Penny.

For that matter let's not forget Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers and its fan-favorite character. Oh and the first season of that was animated by TMS in Japan (same for Ducktales).

Man, now all of a sudden, it’s the art style that is being put under the light in terms of anime. And it is going back to the whole “anime is catered to pedos” stuff again.

Gonna be honest, every time I see people banging on the "pedo shit" drum, I wonder if that person has something they want to confess.

Especially when the arguments essentially amount to "it stars a girl therefore its coomerbait because girls can't exist without me someone, somewhere popping a boner." Fucking Citizen Kane is coomerbait by that logic.

How delusional is this nigger?

Tell me the last time marvel and disney slop ware original, cocksucker.

I do love autistic responses like this.

There's a difference between "valuing originality but often failing at it" and "not valuing it at all." You do understand distinctions, right?

You're kinda reminding me of @SSj_Ness (Yiffed) right now with your ability to conflate one argument with a completely unrelated one that just happens to share a few words. But hey, "The Super Mario Super Show" and "The Wheel of Fortune" both have "The" in the title, they must be the same thing!

 

[The Lawgiver]

I thought for sure you were gonna post a picture of Penny.

That would have made the joke too obvious lmao.

You're sounding like those guys in the 1980s who think they're not allowed to like Dungeons & Dragons because it has demons in it.

Ironically that whole thing was partly caused by the whole CIA psyop/coverup of the finders (actual pedo satan shit).

 

[biglurker]

The farms are unique in terms of anime hate. Forgive me for using this term, but if you go outside you will find that anime hate is nearly nonexistent.
Majority of it comes from a lot of out of touch millennials as well as contrarian users.
There is also a unique sect of retards who have anime derangement syndrome and sperg out constantly claiming its all pedophilia (as well as everything else they don't like).
I think that stems from a mixture of lack of modern western alternatives, being mind broken by actual cases of pedophilia in politics/on the Internet, and also too buck broken by leftist pseudo morality to abandon it completely.

 

[skykiii]

That would have made the joke too obvious lmao.

On that note though, I'm not gonna post pics but there is actually an episode of the original series that shocked me for giving Penny a bathing suit that is almost nonexistent.

Of course... well, while I don't agree with people like @Oilspill Battery and their obsession with anime being degenerate and more importantly wanting you to believe that they don't actually find it hot.... there is a part of me that gets where they're coming from. Especially when I go back to eighties stuff and see first-hand how standards have changed.

The afformentioned really skimpy bathing suit... I never once heard anyone complain about it, no social justice warriors were coming after Inspector Gadget for it.

Actually, I have a funny story about another eighties cartoon, Rainbow Brite: When I was a kid, me and my sister were watching an episode we had rented on tape, and my sister suddenly gasps and says "this cartoon showed her bare butt!" She actually forced us to rewind so we could see for ourselves, and I and my mom had to point out to her "that's underwear."

(My sister was kind of a drama queen and looked for stuff to get offended about, sort of a proto-SJW. The funny thing is by the time SJWs were actually a thing she had calmed down immensely).

Still, I find it amazing that in the 1980s, the scene in question was considered safe and innocent because it was "just underwear" and not an actual bare ass.

That's one thing that always blindsides me when I watch eighties cartoons, how much was just considered safe and innocent that would actually be degenerate now.

And a part of me has always thought anime played a part in this. Like it wasn't until I started watching anime that I even realized a lot of things could even be read as sexual.

 

[David Nosenberg]

It's kind of ridiculous seeing so many people hate anime and manga because they tried watching shows like Black Clover or K-On, when Berserk and Legend of the Galactic Heroes exist. It's like if someone who had never held a book before tried reading Fifty Shades, and then declared the entire medium to be worthless.

 

[Grub]

when Berserk

I mean. Yeah sure. The book full of weird demon rape and exceedingly fucked up subject matter that turns into a generic fantasy story and then suddenly ends when the author died sounds like a great example to me.

 

[skykiii]

@Grub Yeah the Berserk example is weird to me too.

To me its no accident that anime only became mainstream when Pokemon's first season was on the airwaves. People in the age range want something they can take seriously but which is still fun. Even the oft-mentioned Akira I recall being something that turned away a lot of people at first.

Personally if I was introducing someone to anime for the first time, the ones I've found most consistently successful are Ranma 1/2 and Slayers... though Ranma is harder to recommend these days, not because of the actual content of the story but because retards like to draw it into the culture war discussion.

And when I say "Slayers," I mean this one. Not Goblin Slayer, Not Demon Slayer... Just "Slayers."