Culture I Assure You, Writers Would Be Fine Without Twitter - "and Twitter is probably not going anywhere" - Freddie deBoer is correct once again

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So: I don’t think Twitter is going anywhere, and I don’t think the vast majority of Twitter users are going anywhere. The whole notion of the death of Twitter seems like a minor tantrum that will probably blow over in time, and the people who are making grand declarations about how they’ll leave because of Elon Musk are the same sort of people who are deeply addicted to the service. I could be wrong. But I would bet good money that one week/one month/three months from now, Twitter will be operating at full capacity with more or less the same user base. The catastrophizing seems pointless, to me.

That being said, if Twitter were to disappear tomorrow, I assure you that writing and writers would be fine. Thinking of “writer Twitter” as more important than writers themselves is an insult to the profession. People have been trading words for money for thousands of years. They will continue to do so after the death of a platform built on manufactured outrage, social hierarchy, unfunny jokes, stale memes, pornography, and spam. I mention this Atlantic essay only because it echoes what so many people are saying in the ether right now, not to pick on its author. The piece reads like a parody of how writers overestimate the importance of Twitter to their work and careers. It’s frankly a little embarrassing. Your work is the product you sell! Not the shitty jokes you tell with people you want to impress. Erin Somers goes hard on the ability of Twitter to generate interest, but we’ve known for many years that Twitter does not drive traffic. (Ironically, Somers endorses a misconception held by Elon Musk.) Says Somers,

I worry for the writers who are just beginning, especially the outsiders. How will they break in? Up in New Hampshire or some other far-flung outpost, a young writer is about to have a bad winter, and what will she do?

Such a writer could do what I’ve done. I didn’t have a Twitter account for the first six years of my writing career. I haven’t had one in the past five. I’ll put my list of publications up against anyone’s. This newsletter makes a quarter of a million dollars a year. I do developmental editing and ghostwriting. I have recently signed a big-money book contract with Simon & Schuster. My freelancing career is flourishing. If this sort of thing matters to you, I was published in the New York Times again a year ago and appeared on NPR this summer. I understand that it sounds like I’m bragging, but I don’t know how else to refute the notion that Twitter is essential to a writing career. This newsletter has an automated Twitter feed that shares its posts, but that’s all it does, and I don’t even have the login credentials. It has less than 1,500 followers. I’m fine.

No, what could potentially die with Twitter isn’t professional success as a writer. What could potentially die is the ugly, vicious, bankrupt popularity hierarchy on Twitter that so many writers are caught up in. That is what organizes writers on Twitter, not ability or quality of work or marketability but esteem among peers. And that esteem is, in general, dictated by conformity, a willingness to defer to the more popular, performative enjoyment of other people’s jokes, and all manner of other things that have nothing to do with the actual quality of a writer’s work. I am the absolute last to suggest that the writing economy is a meritocracy - many brilliant writers struggle constantly for attention and professional opportunity. But I myself am proof that the idea that writers need to be on Twitter is wrong. Hell, Elena Ferrante is one of the world’s most acclaimed novelists, and she does not do promo at all. You can carve out your own path. I’ve had to, thanks to my own self-destructive behaviors and scandals I’ve brought upon myself.

Besides, Twitter’s not going anywhere. We should be so lucky.
 
I'm confused. They do a lot of coping about Twitter and make reasonable statements about post-Musk tantrums, but they never state what exactly writers need Twitter for that makes it important to their careers. Is it advertising their books? Do they get ideas off Twitter? Just what are they using Twitter for?

Also I think we all know the real killer of writers are the artificial intelligence programs which write whole stories based on a few inputs.

 
Every writer I know, and I know several, doesn't use Twitter for anything more than anime pics, nudie pics, lewds of fictional characters, and to post stupid memes.

Know why?

THEY'RE TOO BUSY FUCKING WRITING!

"Writer Twitter" is a bunch of people talking about how they just want to make one or two sales in the month.

They're also bragging they've "almost finished this chapter" for six months. Or bragging about writing 300 words that week on a Friday.

What they're really worried about is not being able to cancel other writers for wrongthink (IE: getting a contract when their fat barely literate asses can't) and bully other people.

People who are writing aren't doing Twitter.

Twitter doesn't help you market anything. That's just a fucking lie.

Hell, if anything, the writing world would be improved by the loss of Twitter.
 
Hell, if anything, the writing world would be improved by the loss of Twitter.
If writing Twitter actually gave a shit they’d use the 125 character limit to challenge writers to write punchy stiry blurbs to get published, poems, writing prompts or collabrative works.

But they won’t do any of that because they are lazy
 
What an alarming intelligent, reasonable, and grounded rebuttal. I'm actually taken aback by how much I agree with what was said. There was one thing I think he's overlooked though...

Your work is the product you sell! Not the shitty jokes you tell with people you want to impress.
He seems to think that a lot of the writing crowd on Twitter are good writers (or at least want to be). They're not. They know they're not, so they know they can't succeed through hard work alone. That's White privilege or something. They know their way to the top is by riding on the shoulders of others. Networking, cronyism, nepotism, gossip, and backstabbing... Without Twitter, this is a lot harder to pull off consistently. Without Twitter how are they supposed to shout down and drive out the competition? A good writer doesn't need Twitter. A bad one does.
 
What an alarming intelligent, reasonable, and grounded rebuttal. I'm actually taken aback by how much I agree with what was said. There was one thing I think he's overlooked though...
That's Freddie deBoer for you. He's basically 90% correct on everything but sometimes gets it wrong. Such as correctly calling out the fake DID disorder "plurality" bullshit but not seeing it applies just as much to troonery.
 
If you’re a budding semi-popular writer trying to get a come up, just ask yourself whether or not you think a person like Marcus Aurelius or Kurt Vonnegut would have social media or specifically post their opinions on Twitter.

If you say “YES”, then you need to re-think your profession on being successful in the long-run.
 
Every writer I know, and I know several, doesn't use Twitter for anything more than anime pics, nudie pics, lewds of fictional characters, and to post stupid memes.

Know why?

THEY'RE TOO BUSY FUCKING WRITING!

"Writer Twitter" is a bunch of people talking about how they just want to make one or two sales in the month.

They're also bragging they've "almost finished this chapter" for six months. Or bragging about writing 300 words that week on a Friday.

What they're really worried about is not being able to cancel other writers for wrongthink (IE: getting a contract when their fat barely literate asses can't) and bully other people.

People who are writing aren't doing Twitter.

Twitter doesn't help you market anything. That's just a fucking lie.

Hell, if anything, the writing world would be improved by the loss of Twitter.
Every single word of this post is absolutely correct.

Stephen King for example embarrasses himself on Twitter on a regular basis.
 
Every single word of this post is absolutely correct.

Stephen King for example embarrasses himself on Twitter on a regular basis.
He was apparently fucking enraged by the "Lesbian bookstore owner aunt" shitpost that went around.

I liked King better when he was doing coke.
 
Every single word of this post is absolutely correct.

Stephen King for example embarrasses himself on Twitter on a regular basis.
As soon as I read the title he was the first to come to mind honestly. Any writer worth their salt will be fine without some dumb social media app because they don't need that to find inspiration or a subject to write about.

Only a terminally online nutjob like King will miss the spot to chimp out over inane things to hide the fact they haven't come up with any good idea to write about in years.
 
That's Freddie deBoer for you. He's basically 90% correct on everything but sometimes gets it wrong. Such as correctly calling out the fake DID disorder "plurality" bullshit but not seeing it applies just as much to troonery.
Freddie’s teenaged niece is a troon (Aiden variety FTM), that’s why.
 
The majority of Twitter “writers” likely came close to or failed the writing portion of their state’s standardized testing.
 
I only found twitter to be good for two things;

1. Spreading word/knowledge. When the Las Vegas shooting happened, it was on Twitter a good 20+ minutes before anything else.
2. Marketing yourself; for YouTubers, or whatever, it's good for shit like that.

Writers and everything else, don't really fucking care unless you're shilling your new book.
 
But I would bet good money that one week/one month/three months from now, Twitter will be operating at full capacity...
That's good.
... with more or less the same user base.
Goddammit.
The majority of Twitter “writers” likely came close to or failed the writing portion of their state’s standardized testing.
On the one hand, you can improve over time or fail it due to laziness or hating to write an essay format. On the other, you could get perfect marks on a test but not be able to deep think your way out of a paper box on your own, nor fail to spout complete political gibberish.

You're still mostly correct, and fully correct in my heart.

2. Marketing yourself; for YouTubers, or whatever, it's good for shit like that.

Writers and everything else, don't really fucking care unless you're shilling your new book.

Ironically marketing yourself is why the site is so goddamn toxic, when you are naturally Cluster B or turn into an attention whore with the barest bit of attention, you start marketing yourself and every single thing you do, with each dopamine hit becoming your IRL real worth because your brain is poorly equating big number to big love & importance. Life hack is to sound really moral to impress people, getting even MORE likes from people, therefore social media claims another personality for the worse. And they're cut throat and take out your social media cred if it will threaten their own or even more if it will BOOST their own.

I use social media for art and it's a fucking shitshow. I don't blame any creator for promoting then jumping ship.
 
I use social media for art and it's a fucking shitshow. I don't blame any creator for promoting then jumping ship.
I should've quantified it with "and not responding." Whether it's the Harry Potter lady doing a book signing or a band playing somewhere;

Tweet: Hey [fans], we're gonna be [doing whatever] at [place] on [date and time]. Here's a schedule of our world tour [pic attached].

Then turn notifications off and never fucking read the replies.
 
I should've quantified it with "and not responding." Whether it's the Harry Potter lady doing a book signing or a band playing somewhere;

Tweet: Hey [fans], we're gonna be [doing whatever] at [place] on [date and time]. Here's a schedule of our world tour [pic attached].

Then turn notifications off and never fucking read the replies.
Basically. I thought that's what you meant.

I feel bad because I remember when social media was fresh and new and creators could communicate with their audience freely... but then unruly fans started to flare up and they found out they can try and use social justice to beat the author into submission (MAKE THIS CHARACTER A POC AND GAY OR FACE RACISM) and creators started shying away again. There's always been crazy fans, but social media provides a free platform for the crazies to shit up an author's inbox without having to know their phone number or address like they would in the past. People who weren't crazy in the past can become crazy due to social media as well.

And of course it can turn an author into a lazy bastard as well, but we know that.
 
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