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she’s considering another presidential run, telling a New York City audience on Friday that she would be well suited to the office.

During a far-ranging interview with Kara Swisher of the technology website Recode(Ms. Swisher is also a contributor to The Times’s Opinion section), Mrs. Clinton initially said “no” when asked whether she wanted to run for president again. She then paused and repeated “no.”

But after Ms. Swisher noted the slight hesitation, Mrs. Clinton seemed to reconsider her response, saying that a major task of the next Democratic president will be improving the international standing of the United States.

“Well, I’d like to be president,” she said, during the public taping at the 92nd Street Y of Ms. Swisher’s podcast. "The work would be work that I feel very well prepared for having been at the Senate for eight years, having been a diplomat in the State Department, and it’s just going to be a lot of heavy lifting.”

Mrs. Clinton has become a more visible presence in recent weeks, increasing the number of her public appearances and raising money for Democrats across the country. Last week, she spoke at a fund-raiser for Donna Shalala, a former Clinton administration official, who is running for a House seat in Florida.

“She will always be a winner and I’ll always be with her,” said Ms. Shalala, introducing Mrs. Clinton to a room full of 200 Democratic donors in Miami.

Mrs. Clinton said she wouldn’t consider a possible run in 2020 until after the midterm elections next week.

“I’m not even going to even think about it until we get through this Nov. 6 election,” she said. “But I’m going to do everything in my power to make sure we have a Democrat in the White House come January of 2021.”

Should she mount a third presidential bid, Mrs. Clinton would be entering a Democratic field crowded with potential contenders, a major shift from 2016, when nearly no Democrats were eager to challenge her.

Mrs. Clinton said she expects a crowded field of as many as 20 Democrats.

“I think we’d have a number of excellent candidates who would be really formidable on the campaign trail, but let’s wait and see who it is,” she said. "I’m just going to wait and watch what happens.”

Mrs. Clinton dismissed some of the calls for her to retreat from public life as sexist.

“There were no articles telling Al Gore to go away or John Kerry to go away or John McCain or Mitt Romney to go away,” she said. “Mitt Romney is going to the Senate, that’s where he’s going.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/...njrGrvSt4OQXEaaRhIucX1lF0uxBqgQZE1z56E4Giq7xU
 
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Clinton/Wu 2020, all the nostalgic appeal of Clinton, combined with a tech savvy, cybersecurty oriented woman. Plus, Wu's Mississippi roots will help bring in the heartland while the coasts will follow Hillary.

How could they possibly lose?
Because Hillary is a terrible candidate who has never won any election that wasn't handed to her on a silver platter by the DNC?
 
Crosspost from the TDS thread in Community Watch:

According to Rasmussen, Hillary has a big annoucement on October 16th

Word is she has been burning the phones and already secured a long line of donors and has decided she is in.
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Word is she threw in after bernies heart attack and Biden's falling in the polls. The media is collectively ignoring it right but the evidence is overwhelming she is gearing up and analysts are now 60/40 she is getting in

I'm still convinced she's going to try to run again.
 
Crosspost from the TDS thread in Community Watch:

I'm still convinced she's going to try to run again.
I'm becoming more convinced that Hillary is indeed going to run as well.
I am begining to think she is going to make another attempt as well, Maybe her talk with Warren was a request to drop out in exchange for being her VP pick. (Archive) I think her announcement will be that she will be running.

We may be seeing a repeat of 2016 boys.
 
And she underperformed
By a significant amount as I recall.
She beat Lazio by 12% while Gore beat Bush by 25%.
Meanwhile the 2006 race was against a literal who in a very good year for Dems.
If she goes through with a 2020 run her electoral record is only gonna get worse.
 
By a significant amount as I recall.
She beat Lazio by 12% while Gore beat Bush by 25%.
Meanwhile the 2006 race was against a literal who in a very good year for Dems.
If she goes through with a 2020 run her electoral record is only gonna get worse.
And she had most of the White House Campaign staff working for her in 2000
 
It's not going to happen. Too much time has gone by for her to suddenly rebuild that much vaunted "ground game" that lost her the last general election.
 
I think the Oct 16 thing is just going to be an endorsement .
Warren has a very good chance of winning the nomination so she doesn't need to drop out.
Warren doesn't seem suicidal so she wont pick HRC as her VP.
 
Controversial opinion, but I think Hillary Clinton making a surprise entrance in the 2020 Election might actually be a bad thing for Trump.

One of the reasons why Trump beat Hillary was because a lot of people were convinced that she was going to win and it was a widespread belief on both sides that Hillary Clinton had it "in the bag" right up until Election Night. Naturally, a lot of people who would've otherwise voted Democrat just stayed home.

While Clinton's sheer unlikable nature and the way Bernie was so fucked over in the primaries did go a long way in her 2016 defeat, the overconfidence of the Democratic voter base that year did play a role in her defeat as well.

Don't get me wrong, I still think Trump has the advantage against the Democrats in the 2020 cycle and I'm going to wager that Hillary is a lot more likely to just go and endorse Warren on October 16 instead of announcing some sort of surprise primary run.

While Hillary Clinton is a power-hungry sociopath, she's actually got some obvious reasons for supporting Warren and for Warren to seek help from her. Hillary Clinton could basically be a "shadow president", she'll be the "power behind the throne" using Warren as her mouthpiece.

Elizabeth Warren is hated by Wall Street and Silicon Valley. Hillary Clinton is not. If Warren can get support from Hillary, that could be a benefit for her. She'll have Clinton's money and Wall Street will be more likely to help her out if Hillary is involved. The Clintons have a lot of friends there.
 
Hillary Clinton 'dead even' with Trump in 2020 matchup
by John Gage
| October 07, 2019 08:26 PM


A new poll shows that in the 2020 general election, a potential rematch between President Trump and Hillary Clinton would be "dead even."

A Rasmussen poll released Monday found that both Trump and Clinton would receive 45% support in a hypothetical matchup. The poll showed 11% of potential voters remained undecided.
A majority of Democrats said that Clinton would win the nomination if she entered the primary, with 48% saying she would and 46% saying she would not.
Clinton lost to Trump in the 2016 presidential race with Trump hauling in 304 electoral votes to Clinton's 227.
She has since gone on speaking tours criticizing his presidency and calling him an "illegitimate president." The former secretary of state said recently in an interview promoting her new book that she lost in part because she came across as "too serious."
Clinton has also said it would be a "dereliction of duty" if Congress did not impeach Trump.


:story: Rasmussen shouldn't be so cruel as to egg her on.
 
Controversial opinion, but I think Hillary Clinton making a surprise entrance in the 2020 Election might actually be a bad thing for Trump.

One of the reasons why Trump beat Hillary was because a lot of people were convinced that she was going to win and it was a widespread belief on both sides that Hillary Clinton had it "in the bag" right up until Election Night. Naturally, a lot of people who would've otherwise voted Democrat just stayed home.

While Clinton's sheer unlikable nature and the way Bernie was so fucked over in the primaries did go a long way in her 2016 defeat, the overconfidence of the Democratic voter base that year did play a role in her defeat as well.

Don't get me wrong, I still think Trump has the advantage against the Democrats in the 2020 cycle and I'm going to wager that Hillary is a lot more likely to just go and endorse Warren on October 16 instead of announcing some sort of surprise primary run.

While Hillary Clinton is a power-hungry sociopath, she's actually got some obvious reasons for supporting Warren and for Warren to seek help from her. Hillary Clinton could basically be a "shadow president", she'll be the "power behind the throne" using Warren as her mouthpiece.

Elizabeth Warren is hated by Wall Street and Silicon Valley. Hillary Clinton is not. If Warren can get support from Hillary, that could be a benefit for her. She'll have Clinton's money and Wall Street will be more likely to help her out if Hillary is involved. The Clintons have a lot of friends there.
This is part of the reason why I think Hillary will be Warren's pick for running mate is Hillary doesn't join in. I think they both believe they will have a mutually beneficial relationship not just in getting support from wall Street and Silicon Valley but also as a way to unify the parties old guard and the new progressive faction, Hillary getting the support of old people and warren getting the support of young people.

However I still am not going to rule out an announcement of a run on October 16th under the guise of trying to "right the wrong" of 2016. Though I think the smarter choice for her would be just to endorse Warren (since it is clear she is going to get the nomination at least to me anyway) and try to get the VP nomination.

I am not fully convinced of a Trump Victory in 2020 at least from my observations but I am also not convinced of a Democratic Victory. This is why I think Trump is going after Biden so hard as a way to begin drumming up support against the current democratic front runner to begin building momentum for the general election. I don't think Biden will get it for various reasons but he still the front runner for now. If Hillary hops in as a candidate we will see the return of "lock her up" and "Hillary for Prison" and I think we will see similar attacks against whoever she endorses if she does that.

The Democratic Party is still highly motivated to beat Trump in 2020 however I am still unsure if they have fully learned from 2016.
 
He's from Indiana.
A gay Democrat is not becoming Governor of Indiana.

I dunno, considering he never really brings it up, he may be able to sink or swim on his own policy ideas, like how politicians USED to get elected......
 
I dunno, considering he never really brings it up, he may be able to sink or swim on his own policy ideas, like how politicians USED to get elected......
Well he also constantly shit's on Christians for not being True and Honest Christians, says the married gay man, and accepting transition's for 9 year olds and LGBT studies for first graders.
That's not even mentioning how he constantly rubs elbows with Costal douchebags and just generally shits on Indiana and the Midwest.
Of course that happens to all Flyover Dems eventually.
They go DC and California and forget all about their old homes and values so he's hardly alone in that category.
 
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