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Martys_not_smarty said:
Speaking of guys who never went anywhere here's the one of Bob Sapp being signed with WCW but the problem was it was November of 2000:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=3UP6A43eHk8 Well it's for the best because he would stay in Japan and be a shit MMA fighter but because he was a big nigger who could bulge his eyes and buckdance and bojangle on talk shows he became something of a celebrity.
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You best put some respect on Bob Sapp. That nutjob is a treasure.
 
VisaMallgoth said:
If WCW stayed alive with Bischoff at the helm, I could've seen him trying to pull an American version of Inokiism. He still had connections with New Japan and Toryumon (Dragon Gate) and planned on bringing in Toryumon guys to beef up the Cruiserweight Tag division. Keep in mind Shamrock was a free agent at this time, and Bas Rutten had an entertaining but brief wrestling stint in 2001/02. There was a lot of potential there to tap into the MMA craze early on, TNA didn't have the budget to do it and Vince didn't get it when Shane wanted to buy Pride. There was a lot of wasted potential there.
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Sonnen implies he would have been in WCW if it stayed alive.
 
VisaMallgoth said:
If WCW stayed alive with Bischoff at the helm, I could've seen him trying to pull an American version of Inokiism. He still had connections with New Japan and Toryumon (Dragon Gate) and planned on bringing in Toryumon guys to beef up the Cruiserweight Tag division. Keep in mind Shamrock was a free agent at this time, and Bas Rutten had an entertaining but brief wrestling stint in 2001/02. There was a lot of potential there to tap into the MMA craze early on, TNA didn't have the budget to do it and Vince didn't get it when Shane wanted to buy Pride. There was a lot of wasted potential there.
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I genuinely think if WCW stayed alive and on the trajectory it was on in 2001, it would have had pretty much the run TNA had on Spike TV, especially the Hogan/Bischoff era. Like, it wouldn't be 1:1 the same, but I think you'd have had the same rough quality, popularity and a lot of the same faces.
Lip Glossary said:
Half the reason it's worth watching. I like to hate listen to Cornettes podcast, so when something pisses him off I get a childish sense of glee from it.
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MFW I fuck my enemy's wife because I hate him and want to hurt him emotionally, but it turns out he's into that.
 
Lip Glossary said:
Jake would have shown up high on crack talking about "It's me, Ashton! It was me all along, Ashton!"

You wanna play 21? Well I got a 22
*drunkenly moving around*

Never would have happened because Undertaker hated him to the point where he made the hardy boys go break toothpicks in the locks of his car, because taker was a known bully and piece of shit. That "wrestlers court" shit was so gay. Oh you didn't shake all 600 people's hands when you got to the building today, now you have to go to wrestler court. Get fucked, drongo.
Undertaker had his tongue so far up Vince McMahon's ass I'm surprised he was able to even shit on Janelle Grant's head.
He was basically JBL with a little bit of talent. Overrated as hell and I don't care if I get a negative react. You know what else was overrated as hell? Stone cold when he was a bad guy and just became annoying as fuck.
WUT? WUT? WUT? WUT? WUT?
Yeah, fucking hilarious, fella.
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In the Warrior burial DVD somebody mocks the Warrior for not wanting to shake everyone's hand every single fucking day lol. I think it might have been Brooklyn Brawler.
 
cypocryphy said:
In the Warrior burial DVD somebody mocks the Warrior for not wanting to shake everyone's hand every single fucking day lol. I think it might have been Brooklyn Brawler.
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It's always the bullies and the suck up jobbers that do the gayest shit.
Fuck you, I'm not here to shake everyone's hand and make friends I'm here to get in the ring and fake fight in my underwear and get paid six figures.
Fuck out of my face with your middle aged homosexual frat boy antics.
 
Never Scored said:
I genuinely think if WCW stayed alive and on the trajectory it was on in 2001, it would have had pretty much the run TNA had on Spike TV, especially the Hogan/Bischoff era. Like, it wouldn't be 1:1 the same, but I think you'd have had the same rough quality, popularity and a lot of the same faces.
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Most likely, but I could have seen them experimenting more and lucking in on a hot angle. I do see Bischoff putting in more effort as opposed to the obvious lazy cash grab that was the TNA situation, given he had more at stake. Even with the lower budget, they had access to most of the ECW roster at the time (2001 RVD was super over), early ROH indie guys, their established younger stars, and the Japanese connection to rebuild their company around without needing to use all the older, more expensive stars. Keeping a good TV deal would have been crucial, as you could see with the AEW situation or when TNA lost their Spike deal.
 
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Lip Glossary said:
Undertaker had his tongue so far up Vince McMahon's ass I'm surprised he was able to even shit on Janelle Grant's head.
He was basically JBL with a little bit of talent. Overrated as hell and I don't care if I get a negative react. You know what else was overrated as hell? Stone cold when he was a bad guy and just became annoying as fuck.
WUT? WUT? WUT? WUT? WUT?
Yeah, fucking hilarious, fella.
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All 3 of those guys existed in a period in WWE when the weekly shows were 75% rambling promos to build up the next PPV and they could talk so Vince loved it.

Not a single one of them had a memorable match other than maybe that one match Stone Cold had with Bret.
 
Bob Sapp was awesome and was pretty much what Ahmed Johnson could've been.

OJ Simpson said:
Gotta be one of the most unintimidating vignettes I've ever seen.
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It's like those super edgy Facebook posts people post with like the Joker or whatever. Jesus, what a pile of shit.
Magic Sun Daddy said:
I don't think Jake would've been that great a fit for the role, if only because his style of promos didn't jive with the over-the-top villainy that the Ministry was getting up to. If Jake is going to be the leader, then their methods should reflect his personality: cold, calculated, and meticulous. The Ministry would be less like a group of lunatics running around doing crazy shit and more like a sinister threat looming in the shadows and gradually corrupting and drawing in more and more wrestlers to their group. You could even fit a biblical allegory into it with Jake seeing himself as the serpent in the Garden of Eden that tempts Adam and Eve.
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Other people mentioned Jake's life was falling apart and yeah fair enough, but I'd argue that Jake when he was on his game could've made anything work.

Him just being this influential cult leader who was causing all of these people to break could've worked, especially if Jake wasn't an actual believer and was just manipulating folks for his own ends. The 'Higher Power' thing would've been a fun perversion of the whole Born Again shit he did in his last appearance.

But that's probably too """high level"""for Attitude Era WWF.
 
You know Abadon, it's probably not best to publicize your trolls, especially when the character they create mocking you is so spot on.

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Kermit the Frog said:
I believe the Jake Roberts rumor was dirtsheet/internet gossip and wasn't actually under consideration. Jake was completely unreliable at the time. Jake wasn't signed to any promotion and had a reputation for no-showing appearances due to his alcohol/drug problems. Only a few months after the Higher Power reveal happened, Jake would do the infamous Heroes of Wrestling PPV (legitimately the worst wrestling show of all time) where he was fucked up and embarrassed himself.
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We were robbed of the timeline in which a visibly fucked up Jake Roberts was cutting a incoherent promo on live TV during the height of the AE.
 
Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, everything involving Jake Roberts is why I firmly believe DDP should qualify for Sainthood. I don't know what the fuck DDP Yoga is about, but if he was able to turn Roberts life around he can do basically anything
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DDP is one of the most fascinating stories in wrestling with how he washed out early, hung around the edges for a while, then jumped back in in his late 30s and rose to the top of WCW right as it died, then went and created a yoga system and helped guys like Luger and Roberts get their shit together. With all the dirt and gossip and backstabbing in wrestling, I have never seen anyone with a bad thing to say about DDP.
 
The Nothingness said:
On the subject of failed gimmick vignettes, does anyone else remember Trytan? He has a stinker of a debut match on PPV with a Russo finish and his push is immediately dropped. Also, what was character meant to be? It's like TNA wanted him to be a heel Ultimate Warrior with the symbol, but he wrestled like early 90s Undertaker.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vqtBB1MCiE8
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=-kLSizUE6IM
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I think the name says it all.
He's Trytan.

Try-tan.

He... tried.
 
cypocryphy said:
In the Warrior burial DVD somebody mocks the Warrior for not wanting to shake everyone's hand every single fucking day lol. I think it might have been Brooklyn Brawler.
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I spent a *very* small time in local wrestling as a trainee and the handshake thing is a weird tradition that every worker in the south/Appalachians still follow by. It's a respect thing but also there's a particular way you shake hands to to show that you're a "safe guy". Doc Gallows did a podcast some time back saying it's dying out because it doesn't fly in WWE.
 
trent said:
All 3 of those guys existed in a period in WWE when the weekly shows were 75% rambling promos to build up the next PPV and they could talk so Vince loved it.

Not a single one of them had a memorable match other than maybe that one match Stone Cold had with Bret.
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And Bret fucking CARRIED that match. I go back and watch the old WWF attitude era stuff because when I was growing up we didn't have it, we only had WCW.
Looking at it subjectively there was a ton of filler. Triple H would come out with the outlawz and cut a 20 minute long promo before anything happened. The attitude era was an era of nothing but talk until the PPV.
 
Well Intentioned said:
Other people mentioned Jake's life was falling apart and yeah fair enough, but I'd argue that Jake when he was on his game could've made anything work.

Him just being this influential cult leader who was causing all of these people to break could've worked, especially if Jake wasn't an actual believer and was just manipulating folks for his own ends. The 'Higher Power' thing would've been a fun perversion of the whole Born Again shit he did in his last appearance.

But that's probably too """high level"""for Attitude Era WWF.
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All those times Jake warned others that HE is the snake that they should be concerned with and not the one he brought to the ring, and it turns out that he was using the Undertaker as his "Damien." I'm getting hyped over a dead idea for a stable I didn't even care for in a wrestling era I find overrated. That's how much of a presence Jake would've brought as the Higher Power.
 
Magic Sun Daddy said:
in a wrestling era I find overrated.
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In 1999 especially there was a lot of "shades of grey, bro"/heel vs heel stuff that just wasn't that over. Like the 'Taker vs. Boss Man HIAC match from WMXV. Who exactly are we supposed to want to win? I know it features a memorable moment and I think 'Taker and Boss Man were both great overall, but it was just odd booking. AE was fun but I find lots of it overrated too at times.
 
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