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RasterTatth said:
Henry flat out says he said he’s a racist why would I think anything different. Mark tried to take him on a black college tour and told Hulk not talking about it wasn’t a good move.

Henry just basically said I saw Hogan on the Trump stage being like wow “somebody still loves me.” Basically saying hulk did the trump stuff cause it was the only crowd he had left.
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It needs said that Mark Henry has always been a spoiled, crybaby, diversity hire. He was trash through the attitude era and if not for Vince Russo's B-movie sense of humor he wouldn't have ever been relevant beyond an 8 month period, tops.

He got sent to fat camp by WWE several times because he packed on weight and refused to exercise and if I remember right, according to Bruce Prichard (lol) his run initially got stalled because he didn't have "it". Guys like him and Mabel were forced by Vince because he has a race fetish and he wanted to justify the money and time he put into them, so he didn't immediately fire them.

Mark Henry being treated like he's some kind of legend is lame. Hearing his garbage opinions on Busted Open, (when you can understand him because he talks like he's constantly trying to gargle peanut butter and honey) make it clear the dude never learned jack from his time in wrestling; he's clueless and knows just about as much as an average fan. CM Punk had the nerve to call him a "great mind".

So Mark needs to relax and if anything he needs to thank Hogan that he even had a place to work. If not for wrestling, he'd be touring elementary schools giving motivational speeches like "stay in scoo, chirrun and dont do drudds".
 
So Brian Zane associates himself with ICP, a group that apologized for "problematic" songs, yet he still gives a now-deceased Hogan shit for saying a naughty word that Hogan apologized for?
 
Ospreay and his team vs Mox and his team lights out steel cage match which presumably will be the main event of the door because lights out is normally the last match. No clue yet if that will include anyone from NJPW or CMLL, Gabe is injured so.

Should add Ospreay specifically said he’d bring his friends. So maybe United Empire.

EDIT: Just confirmed so far it’s Ospreay Darby Tanahashi and “some other people who need to be confirmed” vs Mox and whoever he gets.
 
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Magic Sun Daddy said:
I think the more important matter is, who the fuck cares either way? Hulk Hogan worked with, drove with, and ate with black wrestlers for years and rarely if any have had a cross word about his conduct regarding how he treated them versus how he treated his white colleagues. I'll take decades of decent behavior among black wrestlers over one snippet of audio from a drug dazed and depressed Hogan as a more concrete examination of his character.
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Lets also remember, his daughter was paling around with D-list rappers. The dregs of niggerdom. Mark Henry would be pissed if he saw his daughter hanging around with them.
 
pajeetprideworldwide said:
Papa Howler is the Michaels
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Papa Howler would’ve been a top guy in wrestling if he was 10-15 years younger or 5-6 inches taller.
Like I said before, he was in his 20’s in the 80’s but he’s under 6 feet tall. We all know that you had to be over 6 feet back then to be a star. By the time a guy his height could become a top guy, he was too old for it.

The Micheals comparison is funny cuz I’m picturing it now and honestly I’d have paid to see my Dad in a long term program with HBK in the 90’s. Would’ve been big dimes.
James X Maxwell said:
Still crying about muh leftists in muh rasslin

sad as fuck
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Leftoids have literally tried to ruin wrestling at every turn. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on, retard.
RasterTatth said:
Henry flat out says he said he’s a racist why would I think anything different. Mark tried to take him on a black college tour and told Hulk not talking about it wasn’t a good move.
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D-Von and Tony Atlas says he wasn’t and honestly I believe them more than Mark Henry.
They knew Hulk better.
 
The Nothingness said:
ICP, a group that apologized for "problematic" songs,
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What the fuck is Juggalo about apologizing for your very gimmick? Horrorcore's whole schtick is shock lyrics. If you aren't being an offensive sped, you're doing it wrong.
The Dark Carnival? More like the Fag Carnival.
The Gathering of Juggalos? More like the Congregation of Homos.

RasterTatth said:
Vince says Hogans comments were unforgivable and he was aghast and it wasn’t like Hulk.
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I don't believe TMZ actually got this soundbite from Vince. Vince (and anyone in the business from it's start to the early 90s) has said worse and in public.
"Unforgivable"? Sure pal.
The only thing unforgivable in Vince's eyes is being southern white trash who can't draw a dime. Everything else is negotiable and redeemable.

RasterTatth said:
Henry flat out says he said he’s a racist
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"to an extent". He's no more racist than the average black woman who gets angry at every successful black man who goes on and marries outside his race, that's why he also said "we all kinda are".
RasterTatth said:
Henry just basically said I saw Hogan on the Trump stage being like wow “somebody still loves me.” Basically saying hulk did the trump stuff cause it was the only crowd he had left.
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Gee Mark, seems like you're just saying that because the AEW crowd are the ones left for you.
Odd when your moveset is a "5 moves of doom" package which AEW hates. Wonder why else they love you...

The Nothingness said:
Brian Zane
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A faggot.
Worse, a Pacific north-west faggot.
This guy cheered Hogan on all his child and teenage life, but because he's a spineless gaylord with serious white guilt he's going to act like Hulk was Benoit'd a black family and gave Undertaker the idea to chair shot Kanyon into the moon.
 
Would said:
I don't believe TMZ actually got this soundbite from Vince. Vince (and anyone in the business from it's start to the early 90s) has said worse and in public.
"Unforgivable"? Sure pal.
The only thing unforgivable in Vince's eyes is being southern white trash who can't draw a dime. Everything else is negotiable and redeemable.
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it wasn't an article. I watched Vince say it and wrote it down as he was saying it.

Dragged Into Sunlight said:
He did?
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I think Thunderlips achieved exactly what it wanted to and was perfectly fine in that movie.
 
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Kawada and Misawa dropkicking Andre the Giant at the same time.

Imo this is the coolest pro wrestling photo ever.
 
A little late and a little gay but:

About the thing more boring than Karion Kross seems to be is anytime Rusev and Shameus get into the ring together. That shit bores me to tears.

I might have a little bit of a weird frame of reference though. I stopped watching WWE when John Cena showed up and the first time I started watching Wrestling again was the week Liv Morgan fucked up her shoulder. Having zero context from like the last twenty years is wild.

The Women's Division is really fucking entertaining now. Iyo Skye and Rhea Ripley are really fun to watch. Also Roxan is cute as fuck. Penta is also really cool, mostly because he's weird as shit and he is really entertaining in the ring. I have enjoyed everything with Seth Rollins, Bron Breaker, and Bronson Reed. When I was a little kid, Goldberg's spear was like the coolest shit in the world, so to come back like twenty years later and see Steiner's kid's take on it, has been really cool.

El Grande Americano is pretty great. I'm glad there's now three of them.

I do not understand the appeal to Bailey.
 
The Nothingness said:
So Brian Zane associates himself with ICP, a group that apologized for "problematic" songs, yet he still gives a now-deceased Hogan shit for saying a naughty word that Hogan apologized for?
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I'm sure if Hulk offered him a job before he died he'd have no problems with him. I'm more disappointed that ICP would lower their standards and work with the Jewish knockoff Cornette.

Would said:
Worse, a Pacific north-west faggot.
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That's a little redundant.
 
GloryHole Stalker said:
I'd simply agree that Graham was more influential than Hogan, but definitely not more important. Billy could have been even bigger than he was, but couldn't get past his personal demons once he had to drop the WWWF title to Backlund. It's a shame as he could have been able to use that success to score some great paydays at big events before his body started to break down, but instead, he went back to Arizona to sulk.

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Vince Sr sticking to guns and making Superstar drop the belt to Backlund is strange to me. Imagine if Superstar who was already popular would've done a babyface turn and kept the championship?

Backlund just seemed like downgrade( I wasn't alive when this happened so I might be lacking perspective on his appeal) compared to Superstar who had everything.
Nicholas II of Russia said:
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Kawada and Misawa dropkicking Andre the Giant at the same time.

Imo this is the coolest pro wrestling photo ever.
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This is December of 1991 over a year and half after Andre's last WWF match. For all Vince's faults and misuse of talent he really did care about Andre and kept him out of the ring. These later career matches are sad and about 13 months later he'd be dead. tumblr_p5acq4KPFq1rg89a6o1_400-290930633.webp
Here's Andre in Mexico in 1992 choking the future Yokozuna. It's crazy that those two actually Wrestled.

Also if you know your Andre history a very infamous incident happened involving Andre and Bad News Brown. (Its not the bus story)
Andre, Bad News, and Bigelow were working a match again at the El Toreo bullring in Naucalpan later in the year. We could not find any record of the match, so we don’t know the exact date or who else was in the match. What is known is that Andre was suffering from some sort of virus. And as always, he had been drinking. Tequila was among his favorite intoxicants, and while in Mexico, surely that would’ve been his drink of choice.

Bad News and Andre were on opposing teams. Andre whispered to Bad News that he was going to deliver his patented butt bump to the face, calling him “boss” as he called everyone. Bad News got into position, laying on the ground with his head resting on the middle turnbuckle, waiting for the butt to the face.

What he got was something far different.

The combination of the virus, the alcohol, and the motion of the moving his butt backwards, all led to Andre losing control of his bowels. Without warning, he shat diarrhea all over Bad News.

Bigelow watched it happened, and described it as oozing everywhere. And the more Andre tried to move to get out of the way, the more it fell out. And with someone of Andre’s size, you can imagine how bad it must have been.

Bad News left the ring immediately, trying not to get sick everywhere. He ran up into the stands, and as noted, it was a bullring so the setup wasn’t the usual building setup. Fans in the back who couldn’t tell what happened were now next to Bad News as he rushed out. They could smell something foul and kept asking each other what was causing it. [/ISPOILER]
 
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The Nothingness said:
So Brian Zane associates himself with ICP, a group that apologized for "problematic" songs, yet he still gives a now-deceased Hogan shit for saying a naughty word that Hogan apologized for?
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yup, its the classic selective morality of those type of "fans", the same types who say that are going to stop watching WWE because of Brock returning, yet they continue to watch, I would be extremely happy of these retards just fucked off but I think we all know thats not going to happen
 
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