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JBL is going to be on English commentary for the upcoming Triplemania. That is already a step up from Konnan.
 
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Not at all. The main difference is they pushed Kross hard and he's had the machine behind since he came to the company. The problem is all the things that make him appealing don't transfer to in the ring and it just falls flat.
Agree with this, but id add a lot of the Kross fans on Twitter are insufferable on the level of what some Punk and Roman fans act like and I like those two, and Kross just kinda felt overrated to me personally, I do think they could have done something with him at least in terms of the midcard but like some fanbases can drag down how I perceive a wrestler, Kross whining on Twitter certainly didn’t help with my perception at least Punk and Roman are mostly quiet on there and don’t encourage the IWC retards
 
but i can’t say I’ve watched a WWE PPV that was any lower than a 6/10 recently and it’s usually anywhere from 8/10 to a perfect score in terms of content
Papa Howler has been asking “Is Brock gonna come back? 😔” to me for 2 years.
Suffice to say he was thoroughly Sports Entertained when we finally watched it.
Codester crying and hugging Cena got me in the feels especially when he said “I love you, thank you for everything.”
Right in the feels.
so the fact that we have wrestling fans bitching that Kross is gone seems wild to me.
None of these fuckers actually like him. If it was Carmelo Hayes they’d do the same thing. They think they’re “fighting the machine” like with Danielson.
I actually like Kross and I have for years. These IWC fucks laughed at me when I said I liked Kross 2-3 years ago.

He's mad the ones he keeps trying to get over (Priest, valkiyra, bailey etc)
You leave my Latina Queen Bayley alone…
The rest is 100% true especially Priest.
Him winning MITB 2023 will never not be moronic.
Imagine Knight won and cashed in at Mania 40…
never do so he spite books people like la knight.
And Kross tbh. I feel like if he came up in NXT during the Super Indie era, he’d be one of H’s golden boys like that charisma vacuum Priest. But he showed up in 21 just after that era.
He did something no WWE wrestler did before and started a YouTube channel in 2011
Cardona is dimes and always has been.
 
Agree with this, but id add a lot of the Kross fans on Twitter are insufferable on the level of what some Punk and Roman fans act like and I like those two, and Kross just kinda felt overrated to me personally, I do think they could have done something with him at least in terms of the midcard but like some fanbases can drag down how I perceive a wrestler, Kross whining on Twitter certainly didn’t help with my perception at least Punk and Roman are mostly quiet on there and don’t encourage the IWC retards
I've noticed this a lot in the last 5 years and I had to look it up then ask grok when I didn't get a good answer. I see it alot in the IWC but also alot in most online activities (like streaming, reddit, etc)

"Vicarious achievement refers to the positive feelings or sense of accomplishment individuals experience when witnessing or associating with the success of others"

People IRL feel like they accomplished something if they can help influence something despite not actually doing anything. Thats why once Truth came back its on to someone else. They just want to feel like they have an affect on something when they really don't.
 
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Kidd Bandit had a match for this gay pride championship in Manchester. It's the same wrestling company that had Bandit vs. Sterling, and I think this match really shows how little Bandit has improved since he got into the ring 4 years ago. First it started out with some kicks and slapping his thigh.

Then he did a bunch of Cartwheels because he thought it would make him like Darth Maul.

And then there was this compilation that Bandit made where he used fucking NSYNC music to the action.
 
Papa Howler has been asking “Is Brock gonna come back? 😔” to me for 2 years.
Suffice to say he was thoroughly Sports Entertained when we finally watched it.
Codester crying and hugging Cena got me in the feels especially when he said “I love you, thank you for everything.”
Right in the feels.
theres actually a lot of older fans who are into it then one may initially think a lot of guys in their 50s and 60s by this point grew up with the product, my parents aren't fans personally but are aware of the bigger names like Cena,Rock,Hogan,etc, hell even my mom sometimes asks me about Cena's retirement tour, shes not into my hobbies but she knows I grew up with the guy when he was the face of the company, certainly remembers Little Caddo fucking seething whenever he or Undertaker got the shit beaten out them by a heel, speaking of which, I do hope Cena's last match is in TD Garden since they usually come around these parts in December, depending on the ticket prices thats a no-brainer for me surely 1 ticket would only be a couple hundred (though it being Cenas last match it would inflate that shit at least a little bit)
None of these fuckers actually like him. If it was Carmelo Hayes they’d do the same thing.
This, I do think they could have used Kross at least in some midcard capacity but the seething over anytime a guy gets canned is dumbfounding to me, and the IWC has trouble coming to terms with the fact its ok to be a midcarder, and as you mentioned Carmelo is an example of that
 
This fake-as-fuck interpretative dance-tier shit exposes the business so bad.
Even a toddler would look at that and deduce it's fake.

Yes, it's 2025 and everyone knows it's fake, so what? Movies are fake too but that doesn't mean they don't have to make the viewer suspend disbelief to be engaged.
This shit wouldn't pass an authenticity test with Ray Charles.
 
theres actually a lot of older fans who are into it then one may initially think a lot of guys in their 50s and 60s by this point grew up with the product
Papa Howler watched Hulkster and the boys back in the 80’s when Papa was in his 20’s.
Missed the Austin era on tv but he remembers seeing the shirts everywhere.
I got him back into wrestling in 2020 with AE Dub.
He liked Moxley and Orange and Jericho and Lance Archer among others.

He likes most people in WWE even Sami Zayn as the scrappy underdog before he found out he was one of those Palestine supporting nuts.
Now he’s apathetic towards SZ.
I told him he beat Kross clean in the middle of the ring in 10 minutes and he just shook his head and said “That’s Retarded.”
You can't have a shitty finisher and do a MITB cash in.
Did this nigga just say the Blunt Force Trauma is a shitty finisher?
How retarded are you?
Watch Damian's chokeslams and see how high he gets them. THAT'S a finisher.
Generic sit out chokeslam done by guy whose entire character is “Smaller Rican Zesty Taker Ramon” who can’t promo for shit.
Yeah solid choice…
 
Tune in to see what was going on in the 24 hour match and this guy hit a knee strike and is literally just staring at the camera. He stared at the camera and did nothing for like a solid two minutes at least and then he just went off the ropes and did a splash and his opponent took the splash cause I guess his opponent was hurt for the whole two minutes and now he’s staring at the camera again after the splash.


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