General Wrestling Discussion

[trent]

This is starting to sound like a familiar situation for wrestlers employed to AEW.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/julia-hart-says-she-ready-return-i-m-just-waiting-call

Tony doesn't give a solitary fuck about women's wrestling despite the fact that he has fallen arsebackwards into a decent roster of girls.

Omega has gone on note numerous times saying that joshi is the best form of wrestling and he is arguably the greatest of all time in the entire business. Give him 20-30 minutes a week to book women's matches and you'll get the sort of reaction Riho winning the belt for the first time got on a regular basis.

Some of the best wrestlers in AEW/RoH at the moment are the women and they've had numerous rookies who turned out great but they are very much an afterthought.

As far as I can remember, Julia Hart was 19 when she started on TV and went from having to be carried through an entire match to being a solid worker in less than 2 years. WWE would kill for someone like that. Skye Blue is another example of this. She had by far the most matches of anyone in AEW in 2023 simply because she wanted to get her reps in.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

The Undertaker would still be known as the greatest wrestler of all time that's comparable to Hogan, Jim would be known for hating Vince Russo, AEW, and for Trump. Jim Cornette would still be considered a cuck who said that Becky Lynch should abort her baby. Honestly he should be like Bret Hart, just keeps his grievances and praises wrestling related to begin with. Undertaker is probably the same person he had been in the 80s or 90s just has a lot of freedom to be himself now.

Jim Cornette couldn't even fathom why anyone wouldn't prefer a person chosen by a shadowy cabal over someone like Trump, if he did he'd understand.

If Cornette was shitting on Harris and Taker was shitting on Trump, your stance would be the exact opposite. You're no better than Cornette, you just happen to be on the exact opposite side of the spectrum and are only seething about him because he's shitting on the obese, senile, elderly man who you want to have sex with because you're an emotionally stunted retard

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

This is starting to sound like a familiar situation for wrestlers employed to AEW.
https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/julia-hart-says-she-ready-return-i-m-just-waiting-call

that reminds me, whatever happened to Danhausen?
obviously he's not a seven star match machine but dude was still dimes

It would be interesting to have someone sit down with Cornette and probe his brain on where he stands on the topics of politics. I'm not talking about the "Trump bad" shit, I'm talking about actual proposed policies that he supports and what forms his political philosophy. I doubt he puts that much thought into his hatred of the ring wing outside of just looking down on rednecks. It's funny to hear him sperg out about Jacobs and Calaway when the former has more of a well formed worldview and nuanced grasp on political matters.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=l8xphl-CyvU

back around the Ruthless Aggression era Kane had a blog "The Adventures Of Citizen X"
iirc it was just some guy named Glen's thoughts about serious business economic libertarian ideas, it wasn't specifically a _secret_ that it was Kane but it was at no point "the other day when I was on Raw and set JR on fire it reminded me of how the inflation in Wiemar Germany was so bad it was more economical to use money for fuel than wood..."
but it's still weird to see a wrestler leaning libertarian for reasons beyond the normal "love me guns, love me drugs, `ate me feds, `ate me taxes, simple as" style

Jim Cornette couldn't even fathom why anyone wouldn't prefer a person chosen by a shadowy cabal over someone like Trump, if he did he'd understand

I'm still mildly impressed he can get his tismo levels high enough to be unable to understand why a business full of independent contractors would lean conservative
even irl serious spergs I've know who ran lib at least could understand how much IC taxing sucks ass and why it could lead someone a particular political direction

 

[I'mma real anime gurl]

If Cornette was shitting on Harris and Taker was shitting on Trump, your stance would be the exact opposite. You're no better than Cornette, you just happen to be on the exact opposite side of the spectrum and are only seething about him because he's shitting on the obese, senile, elderly man who you want to have sex with because you're an emotionally stunted retard

Yay I got one, but seriously Corny is a spiteful hateful person who'll most likely wallow in hatred that'll tarnish his legacy whereas Undertaker is just the same guy he'd been in the 80's-90's. Hell I think Mick Foley won't burn down a bridge with the Undertaker but it'll be a awkward and kind of terse relationship if you get them together.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

Yay I got one, but seriously Corny is a spiteful hateful person who'll most likely wallow in hatred that'll tarnish his legacy whereas Undertaker is just the same guy he'd been in the 80's-90's. Hell I think Mick Foley won't burn down a bridge with the Undertaker but it'll be a awkward and kind of terse relationship if you get them together.

plenty of Wrestlers are left-leaning, its just that Cornette is so publicly having TDS melties on the regular its entirely normal to call it out, even Sami Zayn who is leftist as fuck mostly keeps his public political stances to lowkey complaining about Israel, like most people who were wrestlers when Cornette was a manager were conservative as fuck and I assume they are massively confused about Cornettes recent meltys (the ones who are still living that is)

 

[UnKillFill]

I still think Mick Foley is a genuinely good person despite obviously disagreeing with his politics.
I don't I've ever heard anybody have a bad thing to say about him as human being. The man clearly has a huge heart.
Unfortunately I can't speak too much for his brain after all the years of unprotected chair shots...

 

[ElHijodeDeficienciaCogni]

Omega has gone on note numerous times saying that joshi is the best form of wrestling and he is arguably the greatest of all time in the entire business. Give him 20-30 minutes a week to book women's matches and you'll get the sort of reaction Riho winning the belt for the first time got on a regular basis.

Wasn't the whole reason that Tony took the books and made it the Tony Khan show was because Kenny and Brandi were disagreeing on the direction the women's division should be going and so Tony used that as the excuse for his power play to push the Elite out of their booking committee position so that he could play TEW IRL?

As far as I can remember, Julia Hart was 19 when she started on TV and went from having to be carried through an entire match to being a solid worker in less than 2 years. WWE would kill for someone like that. Skye Blue is another example of this. She had by far the most matches of anyone in AEW in 2023 simply because she wanted to get her reps in.

Julia Hart had enough Charisma to jannetty the Varsity Blondes which led to BPJ getting released and fed to NXT. Then she went to the House of Black and was mogging Cucky Murphy and Melikey Blacks so hard that they started making vague posts about being willing to go work NXT. As soon as she toook time off for injury her House of Black faction members stopped making gestures like they were willing to go work in the developmental and started kissing Tony's ass again.

that reminds me, whatever happened to Danhausen?
obviously he's not a seven star match machine but dude was still dimes

He refused to cut ties with CM Punk on social media and make groveling appeals about JUST HOW MUCH FUN HE WAS HAVING, like FTR and the other CM Punk guys in AEW did after Brawl Out. Tony stopped letting him do the comedy stuff that got him over and just has him turn into the guy in the background that points at people. He got injured and while he was injured spent a lot of time on social media hyping up AEW, doing his comedy stuff, and basically trying to keep himself relevant and the promotion over. When he is finally healed up Tony ran vignettes hyping his return for last Halloween for weeks in the lead up. He's at the venue, has a bunch of material written up and ready to work whatever angle Tony has for him.
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Return is canceled with no explanation to the audience at the venue or on social media despite having been billed. Gets depressed as fuck and all his social media and fan meetup stuff he was doing on his personal time drops off to a trickle. Looks like he is going to be put in liquid nitrogen until his contract is run out. Much to the shock of no one there are all of a sudden a bunch of rumors circulating on the internet that Danhausen is selling bootleg AEW merch he had printed up super cheap. All of a sudden there are astroturfed posts about how his wife is cucking him everywhere. Danhausen is getting workedhausen to the point he is posting on /pw/ trying to convince people that he isn't robbing Tony and that his wife isn't cheating on him. Tony is really fucking petty about burying guys if he isn't going to keep them on contract and doesn't plan on signing them again.
Tony just did something similar with the Lucha Bros recently when as soon as it was decided that their contracts wouldn't be extended they got thrown in the cooler and social media campaigns popped up all over the internet about how they were hard to work with, politicked, wouldn't put people over, and were locker room poison.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

plenty of Wrestlers are left-leaning, its just that Cornette is so publicly having TDS melties on the regular its entirely normal to call it out, even Sami Zayn who is leftist as fuck mostly keeps his public political stances to lowkey complaining about Israel, like most people who were wrestlers when Cornette was a manager were conservative as fuck and I assume they are massively confused about Cornettes recent meltys (the ones who are still living that is)

I am just pointing out that the people on here seething over Cornette not worshipping a senile old man are only mad because he's insulting their waifu. If he was insulting Harris they'd be cheering him on and calling him "based" like a brainlet.

You can deny it all you want but you know it's true.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

I am just pointing out that the people on here seething over Cornette not worshipping a senile old man are only mad because he's insulting their waifu. If he was insulting Harris they'd be cheering him on and calling him "based" like a brainlet.

You can deny it all you want but you know it's true.

its not so much Cornette hating on Trump as it is him freaking out at Undertaker for me personally, yeah some would call Cornette based if he shat on Kamala, but the issue remains with Cornette not even willing to consider why Taker might support Trump and resorting to ad hominems

 

[Bullet Club]

Patrick Bet-David sits down with iconic wrestler Hulk Hogan to discuss his legendary career, his close friendship with Donald Trump, Vince McMahon, and untold stories of fame, family, and wrestling's golden era.

 

[GloryHole Stalker]

its not so much Cornette hating on Trump as it is him freaking out at Undertaker for me personally, yeah some would call Cornette based if he shat on Kamala, but the issue remains with Cornette not even willing to consider why Taker might support Trump and resorting to ad hominems

I believe Cornette's political leanings come down to his Father. He was some sort of Kentucky Judge or something and he also ran a newspaper for a time. His dad died when Cornette was very young. Jim described his dad as a Democrat, and he worships his pops, so it explains his spastic reactions to Republicans in general, and his seemingly complete trust in "journalists" (provided they say what he wants to hear). So, to Jim, Republicans, go against his Father, and Jim, autistically, takes it as a personal affront and an insult to his Dad's memory. IMO.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

I believe Cornette's political leanings come down to his Father. He was some sort of Kentucky Judge or something and he also ran a newspaper for a time. His dad died when Cornette was very young. Jim described his dad as a Democrat, and he worships his pops, so it explains his spastic reactions to Republicans in general, and his seemingly complete trust in "journalists" (provided they say what he wants to hear). So, to Jim, Republicans, go against his Father, and Jim, autistically, takes it as a personal affront and an insult to his Dad's memory. IMO.

true, being a Republican in the South was a big no-no back then, despite the fact that political leanings of Democrats were completely different then what it is today (worthy of noting that the Southern Wing of the Democrats back then were Segragationist), that irony seems to be lost on Cornette

 

[ElHijodeDeficienciaCogni]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IA-01pLPa3w


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Yeah brother, so I looked Don in the eye and say, 'sounds like you just want to make America great again. Let me tell ya brother Trumpamania would run wild if you were President.' Don dead-ass looks me in the eye and says, 'you're a genius Hulkster, be my running mate.' I had to pass. I was too busy. Metalica was going on tour and Robert Trujillo needed me to help him get ready.

 

[Would]

I don't I've ever heard anybody have a bad thing to say about him as human being. The man clearly has a huge heart.

He and Billy Gunn were the only two guys who were kind towards Chyna without seeking anything, financial or sexual, in return.
They were also the only two guys who were pissed at how HHH and Vince betrayed her trust. Foley in particular warned HHH that this would destroy Joanie, and damn if he didn't call it when Chyna fucked her whole life up, starting by getting intimate with Waltman.

 

[Nicholas II of Russia]

Return is canceled with no explanation to the audience at the venue or on social media despite having been billed. Gets depressed as fuck and all his social media and fan meetup stuff he was doing on his personal time drops off to a trickle. Looks like he is going to be put in liquid nitrogen until his contract is run out. Much to the shock of no one there are all of a sudden a bunch of rumors circulating on the internet that Danhausen is selling bootleg AEW merch he had printed up super cheap. All of a sudden there are astroturfed posts about how his wife is cucking him everywhere. Danhausen is getting workedhausen to the point he is posting on /pw/ trying to convince people that he isn't robbing Tony and that his wife isn't cheating on him. Tony is really fucking petty about burying guys if he isn't going to keep them on contract and doesn't plan on signing them again.
Tony just did something similar with the Lucha Bros recently when as soon as it was decided that their contracts wouldn't be extended they got thrown in the cooler and social media campaigns popped up all over the internet about how they were hard to work with, politicked, wouldn't put people over, and were locker room poison.

Jesus fucking Christ.

They didn't learnt a damn thing about the CM Punk situation, bunch of petty assholes.

 

[UnKillFill]

Sniped me while I was waiting for it to upload. Here is the local copy.
Jim Cornette on The Undertaker & Donald Trump [K9u95hjwpV0].webm

Finally listening to this now.
Wow... On some level, I already knew... But It's still jarring to hear how delusional this guy really is.

I am right now listening to a dude who has *at least as much* (honestly, probably even more) legitimate evidence showing that he's a sex pest than Trump ever had. We've all heard the stories about what Cornette made the boys do to his wife if they wanted a push in OVW... And he's even made jokes about sexual assault in the industry...

And now he is *still* describing Biden as a "kindly old grandfather with a stutter."
As if there weren't literally *dozens* of videos of Biden creepily touching and sniffing countless little girls.

The more I hear of this, the angrier I get. I don't think Corny is a moron anymore, I think he's just fucking evil. I don't even think I understand his worldview. The man is clearly a racist, clearly a sexist, and clearly a hateful bigot in general to anybody who does not share in his delusional world view...
But he still calls anybody who disagrees with that world view a racist/sexist/bigot... As if those a any meaning coming from somebody like him. I really don't get it.

And now he's making fun of the (I'm not even gonna deny) total gayness of the YMCA song, and mocking Trump for using that gay song so often in his rallies. Hey Corny, what's wrong with being gay again? Are you telling me that you're a homophobe?
Because by your logic, Trump clearly isn't.

 

[Shipping Steel]

Copy of the lawsuit attached for the curious.

I decided to have a brief skim through this. There is nothing new that hasn't been discussed by people who heard about this. The statements hypothesizes the sheer amount of money been sent around to people to cover up this mess.

What was pretty disturbing was that Phillips had a foot fetish, and in point 161, they go in to lengths in talking about other pedos who have foot fetishes. Other than that skim, nothing shocking or new to talk about.

 

[Caddo Cobgang]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IA-01pLPa3w


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Hulk Hogan is a known liar, but I find most of his bullshittery funny, I would pay for a autobiographical documentary about Hulk Hogan if he was in complete creative control of it, it would be like a wrestling themed Acid-Trip

 

[Kaizer Ghidorah]

Hulk Hogan is a known liar, but I find most of his bullshittery funny, I would pay for a autobiographical documentary about Hulk Hogan if he was in complete creative control of it, it would be like a wrestling themed Acid-Trip

Would love the part where he time travels from going back and forth from Japan so many times

 

[trent]

Tanahashi is wrestling EVIL at WK19 in a match that no one could possibly give a shit about.

EVIL has to be one of the prime examples of a tag team guy that failed horribly as a singles wrestler and I'm surprised that NJPW keeps trying to push him. He is the definition of mediocre.