Opinion Florida feels like another planet compared to Quebec - Leaf utterly flabbergasted by ordinary human interaction, lack of fear

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I have a confession to make: I recently fled Quebec for a week, a refugee from Legault’s 2.0 curfew-and-confinement rules.

A friend told me about an available condo in Florida, my wife and I made a last-second decision to briefly escape and work remotely. But the second we landed, it felt like we’d arrived on another planet.

While Quebec is in full confinement mode, Florida is Cowboyland, where you barely know COVID is happening, despite much higher new case and hospitalization rates than ours .

It’s lunacy by Canadian standards, but an eye-opening experience. For starters, everyone’s out and about, filling bars, restaurants, movies, gyms, and jam-packed sports arenas.

Stores and supermarkets don’t require masks but some cashiers and customers wear them, though often under their nose or chin — Florida-style. It seems a way of announcing: “Look — I’m masked!” when they’re not.

Restaurants are fully open and peeking into some, they’re mobbed. Waiters can choose whether to wear masks, and at least half don’t.

In ever-friendly America, some customers even shake hands with their waiters before leaving, to say: “Thanks, I’ll have some germs for dessert.”

It’s easy to spot Canadians at restaurants, as we’re the ones properly masked and nervously sitting on the terrace, even in the rain.

You can see the difference in the media, too. In Quebec, COVID totally dominates the news, because there’s almost nothing else happening.

In Florida, it’s the reverse.

I checked the prestigious Miami Herald recently on a day Florida had risen to more than 70,000 new daily cases — almost twice as many per capita as Quebec, much like their hospitalizations.

But the first mention of COVID anywhere in the paper was exactly 18 stories down, with the headline: “Amid Omicron surge, hospitals are stretched thin. What can Florida lawmakers do?”

Ignore it, as always, I guess. Meanwhile, the 19th story was: “Florida COVID update: 71,742 new cases as hospital patients increase.”

Among the many stories played far higher up were: “Miami Marlins name managers for minor-league affiliates” and “Microbial contamination in laxative can cause a ‘life-threatening’ infection.”

But that still beats NBC TV’s Florida website that day, which ran this story way ahead of COVID: “Police officer kills dog in Miami-Dade after barking complaint.”

It’s hard to make this stuff up. Meanwhile, in La Presse the same day, the top six stories were about COVID.

By any measure, Florida life seems surreal, as if everyone’s wearing blinders and trying not to notice a disease that’s killed more than 63,000 Floridians. That’s about twice as many deaths as in all of Canada, in a state with two-thirds our country’s population.

It’s health madness, but there’s a psychological upside, since COVID doesn’t dominate all life like here. We Montrealers live in a tense, depressing pandemic bubble — all-COVID, all the time — which is why many people avoid following the news.

In Florida, entire conversations happen without the C-word mentioned, unless you bring it up — which, of course, I did. I asked a group of seven 60-somethings I met at a restaurant terrace how they felt about Florida’s non-existent pandemic rules.

Every last one said they loved how Florida handles things. In the words of one woman “Our philosophy here is: I look after myself and you look after yourself. If you want to wear a mask indoors, you should. If you don’t want to go to a restaurant, you shouldn’t.”

When I asked about our collective responsibility to protect others she shrugged and said: “That’s just not how we think here.”

I mentioned Quebec’s recent curfew, but they all just laughed, dismissing it as “Canadian communism.” Many others obviously agree as more people moved to Florida during the pandemic than any other state .

Thousands of Quebecers have also looked into moving there since the pandemic.

It’s a tale of two worlds. Like most Canadians, I still think collective safety trumps some individual rights. But I’d prefer something between the cowboy individualism of Florida and the heavy-handed paternalistic rules of Quebec during this fifth wave.

Our curfew was lifted, but we still can’t legally invite anyone to our home, while other Western countries and Canadian provinces allow from five to 20 guests.

Britain, France, Spain and other European countries are starting to “live with Omicron ” like the seasonal flu, and dropping many emergency measures. Ontario plans to do likewise. When, if ever, will Quebec?

To fly home we needed a COVID PCR test, almost impossible to come by in Montreal, with lineups hours long at most hospitals. Consequently, the Quebec government won’t allow anyone but the very sick to take them, while travellers must go to private clinics and pay perhaps $200.

Meanwhile, every Florida pharmacy does free PCR tests, even for travelling foreigners. It seems bizarre in a country with no universal medicare, where people are often bankrupted by medical bills.

But when we went for our free test at a pharmacy, there were a dozen people waiting, all wearing masks, the only place I’d seen that all week.

For the first time, it felt a bit like home.
 
People are dying, yes some from the flu, most from co-morbidities (AKA health problems from being fat) some from other causes - but when someone tries to get me to accept the fact that people have actually died from Covid I just say "stop right there" because I won't accept the premise that any of the Covid numbers are real.
 
It’s easy to spot Canadians at restaurants, as we’re the ones properly masked and nervously sitting on the terrace, even in the rain.

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a disease that’s killed more than 63,000 Floridians.

You must be describing the opioid epidemic, because Covid hasn't even killed that many Americans, let alone Floridians.

In summary: Canadians are comparable to institutionalised prisoners - they can't handle freedom and not being strictly regulated in every aspect of their sad little lives.
I have to agree. Florida sounds like paradise to me. I'd love to go there but you can't leave if you do not have the coof shot.

Quebec is about as anal as France is on their restrictions. You couldn't even walk your damn dog out past curfew. They have some of the shittiest hospitals around and never bothered to spend money to invest in it. Instead, they pumped out the fear porn.

Canadians are so used to being nice and obedient someone telling them 'fuck off' and 'no' in the same sentence startles them.
 
In comparison to other states, Florida has been downright delightful these past couple years. Even on the more pro-vax side, the article talks about free PCR tests, but Florida also had a fantastic vaccine rollout. In some areas, there were even little mobile medical teams that made house calls to elderly veterans who wanted the jab, starting with WWII vets, then the Korean War, and so on. Other states had millions of doses go bad.

People took it reasonably seriously, and there was a point when all beaches were closed. Then, more data came out, and everyone wondered why the fuck they were staying away from sunlight. You know, the thing that kills COVID.
I mentioned Quebec’s recent curfew, but they all just laughed, dismissing it as “Canadian communism.” Many others obviously agree as more people moved to Florida during the pandemic than any other state.
It's almost like they got back to normal life and saw with their own eyes that this isn't the Black Death.
 
If you care so much about "collective responsibility" why don't you stay in your utopia that is on board with that idea instead of imposing your values like an imperialist on others.
Because THAT is what true "collective responsibility" is - it's everyone's job to submit to their betters, unless you're one of the betters, in which case it's your collective responsibility to preach to the peasants about how you should be ashamed for not submitting to them.
 
I mentioned Quebec’s recent curfew, but they all just laughed, dismissing it as “Canadian communism.”
Gotta love based Florida. Also, the article writer needs to go back if they love giving up their liberty for the greater collective security.
Samuel Adams said:
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
You hear that you photosynthetic tree appendages? We don't want you.
 
Be gentle to him, he’s coping with the realization that what’s been done to him these past two years was not just unnecessary, but known to the state as such. Florida actually *is* fine. ALL the attacks were to frighten people like him into just accepting that things were terrible here and being covered up. But he had enough independent spirit in him that on some level he felt like he had to see for himself. And he did, and now he’s working on accepting that he was lied to.

There will be increasing numbers of cases like this. It’s complicated by the fact that all politics are now international, so now have Jewish Quebecois who by all rights should neither know nor care about a state in another country but nope, this is his fight for some reason, and he’s struggling with accepting that DeSantis - whom he should not even be able to name but you know good and well he can - was right all along.
 
"What about collective responsibility?" Fuck off with that Canadian Communism bullshit. The United States was founded on the principles of individual liberty and personal freedom. Where every man is his own king and master. Canada was founded as a vassal state of the British Crown, a part of the "Commonwealth" full of serfs and subjects. Just because Canadians are used to being ruled and not actually free doesn't mean everyone else should accept subjugation.
 
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It isn't what it used to be but Florida has had a lot of cattle. Dunno if it's still a thing but for a while if you owned undeveloped land there was some tax incentives type shit to put cows on it
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Seriously why does he have to look like a sex offender on the run?

ETA: Those are some older photos, here's what he looks like today:

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How dare he besmirch the good name of PRESS ONE

Also "prestigious Miami Herald" lol
 
Be gentle to him
I refuse. Despite all of my shitposting I don't care too deeply about joggers or (((those))) people. Quebecers in particular, and Canadians in general, I hate them with a passion that burns like a thousand suns. They were barely tolerable prior to COVID. The Day of the Rake is not a joke to me, it is a duty to future generations. I'm done with this kind of bullshit from "people" like this. I consider the roach I stomp with my boot as more worthy of life and less offensive. My heart says I should put my slingshot and ceramic bearings back in my car for when I spot tags moving forward. I performed my own little Kristallnacht (in minecraft) early on in the pandemic. I know where the neighborhoods are where most cars have Canadian plates. I won't go so far as to say Hitler was right. I will say I understand now.
 
License plates? So they drove down there?

A lot of Snowbirds have their cars shipped down to the US for the winter. Then they fly.

I know where the neighborhoods are where most cars have Canadian plates.

To add onto this- some of the sneakier snowbirds in FL, they keep a car with FL plates at their condo/2nd house etc. because, as I've been told, they feel they are treated less shittily in traffic when they're upholding the illusion they are locals. So sometimes FL plated cars deserve the side eye too.

Side tangent- so many people are moving to FL now because it's not as anal about the china cold, and I don't think they're ready for hurricane season. 4ish years ago when Irma came around, so many houses ended up going for sale because they flooded. These newcomers are probably naively buying up those Irma houses and are gonna get flooded out again as soon as the next hurricane comes around. I hope it scares some of them off, honestly
 
To add onto this- some of the sneakier snowbirds in FL, they keep a car with FL plates at their condo/2nd house etc. because, as I've been told, they feel they are treated less shittily in traffic when they're upholding the illusion they are locals. So sometimes FL plated cars deserve the side eye too.

Side tangent- so many people are moving to FL now because it's not as anal about the china cold, and I don't think they're ready for hurricane season. 4ish years ago when Irma came around, so many houses ended up going for sale because they flooded. These newcomers are probably naively buying up those Irma houses and are gonna get flooded out again as soon as the next hurricane comes around. I hope it scares some of them off, honestly
Nothing like a little tempest to separate the men from the boys. The filthy leaves might pull something sneaky with their car, but I can clock the syrup slurpers like the farms clocks trannies. I can't tell you how many times I've felt the hair stand up on the back of my neck because I'm catching a whiff of Maple. Almost like clockwork I'll hear an "eh" "Toronto" or some gay shit about hockey.

Edit: Me after the Day of the Rake. Soon brothers:
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Fucking tourists. They consistently bitch about wherever they visit, while happily giving us stupid yokels their money hand over fist. Keep coming back!
 
Fucking tourists. They consistently bitch about wherever they visit, while happily giving us stupid yokels their money hand over fist. Keep coming back!
If only you knew how bad things really are. There is a bit of learning to deal with some humiliation with tourist bucks. It's fine, complaining is fine. We can even deal with cheap folks. Have you seen (((South Florida)))? The problem with Canadians is that they have an inferiority complex about America in general. So while they bitch and moan their homeland is a sacred cow not to be tarnished. They also have way too many people that never go the fuck back home. I'm talking people that have lived in Florida for 20 years bitching about how much better Canada is while they never go back. They don't stick to a designated enclave either. It's an infestation to be excised root and stem.
 
If only you knew how bad things really are. There is a bit of learning to deal with some humiliation with tourist bucks. It's fine, complaining is fine. We can even deal with cheap folks. Have you seen (((South Florida)))? The problem with Canadians is that they have an inferiority complex about America in general. So while they bitch and moan their homeland is a sacred cow not to be tarnished. They also have way too many people that never go the fuck back home. I'm talking people that have lived in Florida for 20 years bitching about how much better Canada is while they never go back. They don't stick to a designated enclave either. It's an infestation to be excised root and stem.
And here, I used to think Jersey assholes were bad. Silly me. At least they went the fuck home to the cesspool.
 
And here, I used to think Jersey assholes were bad. Silly me. At least they went the fuck home to the cesspool.
See I just look at NY/NJ kind of how the MLB looks at FL for spring training. Some of our SoFlo assholes go up there, some of their assholes come down here, and both of their crafts are made the better for it. Assholes are an important part of the FloridaMan population's health.
 
My husband and I have always joked that Canada is basically empty. Everywhere you go -- and I mean everywhere -- in the US, you will see at least one car (but usually several) with Canada plates. Even in the small hillbilly towns I grew up in where nobody in their right mind who wasn't born there would be traveling to.

It's almost like Canadians will travel anywhere in the US rather than stay home.
 
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