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I've heard a bunch of people say the same thing in my country.

There's so much insecurity. We've had to import so many refugees without any say in it, and then what do we do with them? They refuse to integrate, they refuse to go back, their countries refuse to take them back... I'm voting for the only viable anti-immigration party next year, but I have doubt it will affect anything in the long run. The media keeps pretending all these refugees are sympathetic and the people in charge are more concerned about stopping people from saying anti-refugee stuff online and keeping refugee crimes under the radar.
 
I've heard a bunch of people say the same thing in my country.

There's so much insecurity. We've had to import so many refugees without any say in it, and then what do we do with them? They refuse to integrate, they refuse to go back, their countries refuse to take them back... I'm voting for the only viable anti-immigration party next year, but I have doubt it will affect anything in the long run. The media keeps pretending all these refugees are sympathetic and the people in charge are more concerned about stopping people from saying anti-refugee stuff online and keeping refugee crimes under the radar.
Yeah, I feel the same way (and so do many people I've talked to). Essentially, what some of the EU has created with the open border stuff was a free-for-all in the worst sense. It's all first come, first serve - regardless of where they came from, how much threat they actually face(d) in their respective home countries etc. So what you end up with is the people that have very little to lose at home (no businesses, no families they give a fuck about, no education that might have gotten them somewhere etc.).

Before I ramble too much: I agree with the voting stuff. I've never voted for a right wing party in my entire life. But in the next few elections I will because at this point it almost feels like raw self-defense.
 
I've spoken to many non political people and anocdotally they all seem to agree that 1: France is a safe first word country and not a place Britain needs to take migrants from and 2: The working definition of children really needs to be changed to "Under 13".

Also I guess the idea that migrants are mostly from Syria and other war torn areas is just out the window now when it's plain to see many are just economic migrants from the likes of Somalia.

France isn't looking so safe to me.

 
These are the smart people. They see the madness that is unfolding and have the means to get the fuck out of there. My ancestors came from Germany, so this saddens me.

At least it might lead to a second golden time for German Culture when the German Diaspora reaches its peak like in 1871-1914.
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I keep trying to imagine the reasoning that led to so much of the sociopolitical establishment pushing mass migration to the West. At this point I'm wondering if it isn't borne out of resentment from globalists that they are enriching the Chinese by basing manufacturing in their sphere of influence, so they're trying to import a new underclass into Europe to make cheap subsistence manufacturing viable again there.

I'll be very interested to see if minimum wage and safety regulations start being dismantled in places like France and Germany in the next couple of years (barring a fascist uprising since, for some reason, the influencers of the world didn't see a rise in extremist right politics coming as a response to this). Britain's been edging in that direction for a few years with the privatization of parts of the NHS and such, but I'm admittedly even less familiar with continental politics than I am with those in the UK.
 
Western Europe isn't very pro-guns, and is so extreme left people are getting raped and feeling bad for the rapist. I think the hope is the population is too demoralized to stage any sort of "White People" uprising. I mean it's basically government mandated racial eradication.

But yeah once that is complete, then perhaps Western Europe will devolve back into 2nd/3rd world countries with low living standards and extremely low wages. Terrible for Caucasian Culture, Identity, History. But great for labour costs!

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Western Europe isn't very pro-guns, and is so extreme left people are getting raped and feeling bad for the rapist. I think the hope is the population is too demoralized to stage any sort of "White People" uprising. I mean it's basically government mandated racial eradication.

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Who wants to have casual sex with these people. This is quite disgusting tbh, it's like the government saying, "well, they're ready, all you have to do is your part" I have not felt this violated since CWC's sex-star challenge videa.
The way these people have sex really is not the problem, the problem is in fact that they want to rape anything that walks and sex-ed Chandler style won't change that.
 
Who wants to have casual sex with these people.

Don't you want to culturally enrich yourself? White people are the cause of all the problems in the world. The British Empire, Nazis. I mean having sex with a refugee and converting to their religion is the best thing you can do, it shows you are a good person and not an evil person who might have some sense of pride in their country, heritage or race, thats disgusting behaviour if you are white. I mean it's fine for other countries and races because we did really well and they didn't, so its up to us to bring parity to all races and cultures, like a version of Europe wide communism.

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Don't you want to culturally enrich yourself? White people are the cause of all the problems in the world. The British Empire, Nazis. I mean having sex with a refugee and converting to their religion is the best thing you can do, it shows you are a good person and not an evil person who might have some sense of pride in their country, heritage or race, thats disgusting behaviour if you are white. I mean it's fine for other countries and races because we did really well and they didn't, so its up to us to bring parity to all races and cultures, like a version of Europe wide communism.
These people don't realize that this is just benign narcissism, I wish we could just send people with train of thought away.
 
The harder the EU pushes the migrants on us, the farther they drive us to Putin and to the far-far-far right parties. If there is one thing Hungarians absolutely hate, is when foreigners tell us what to do.

Are you sure you want to go to Putin? the same guy who allows Sharia law in Chechenya? The same guy who put this islamist in charge and considers his "son"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramzan_Kadyrov

Realize that Putin ain't some savior from Islam; if anything, his defense of Islam makes most SJWs look like Christopher Hitchens...

I wonder if America is ready for the European cultural revolution?

I say American will probably integrate the refugees better than Europe, and if they don't integrate, well, it is the most armed nation in the world, with no holds barred policing, so yeah
 
I keep trying to imagine the reasoning that led to so much of the sociopolitical establishment pushing mass migration to the West. At this point I'm wondering if it isn't borne out of resentment from globalists that they are enriching the Chinese by basing manufacturing in their sphere of influence, so they're trying to import a new underclass into Europe to make cheap subsistence manufacturing viable again there.

I'll be very interested to see if minimum wage and safety regulations start being dismantled in places like France and Germany in the next couple of years (barring a fascist uprising since, for some reason, the influencers of the world didn't see a rise in extremist right politics coming as a response to this). Britain's been edging in that direction for a few years with the privatization of parts of the NHS and such, but I'm admittedly even less familiar with continental politics than I am with those in the UK.


Only the UK has been doing the polar opposite for the past six years. The Minimum Wage continues to go up, the lowest paid are being taken out of any kind of income taxation and the Health n Safety body has been basically slowly dismantled because it was becoming slightly retarded when you need training for a single step step ladder before you were allowed to use it.

The big issue was basically governments only thinking short term. Raise the population, shove them in jobs (no matter how shit) and you get tax revenues to spend on more shit. It's a circular very easy way to get big figure growth and is the stock in trade of lazy as fuck chancellors which is all we've had in the post since Norman Lamont some twenty three years ago. GDP Per Person, lifestyles, pay rises etc gets pushed down in the process but who cares? We get tax revenue yaaaaaaaaaay!

Even Phillip Hammond is trying to continue to pull this crap off instead of setting up the board for long term sustainable growth on a per person basis and is apparently in a battle of wills with Teresa May as a result

Also the NHS privatization people keep whittering on about? It accounts for just 6% of the NHS. Over 94% of the NHS is still state controlled, and the political climate there has seen a slow down if not near stop on that due to public unease. Some who had contracts with the NHS have been told to jog on once they run out too.

Jeremy Hunt has just put out a policy which will hopefully reduce our reliance on foreign workers in the NHS too, by basically drafting anyone who is medically educated here into the NHS for a minimum of four years. Mostly because way too many doctors and nurses trained here promptly sod off to Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the USA after finishing their education here, leading to a brain drain. it won't eliminate the problem, but should help reduce it significantly.

The UK's stock in trade is for high quality, reliable and specialist manufacturing which requires a skills base, something endlessly importing people doesn't really cover. This is why JCB resorted to making their own school to cover any potential skills shortages in the manufacture of their plant machinery.

Car manufacturing is also a specialty of ours, with the UK producing some of the most reliable cars on the planet, only the EU kept bribing "offering incentives" to car manufacturers to move out of the UK, which is why Ford was bribed given money to build a plant in Turkey, and then wondered why their van sales collapsed because the Turks can't put them together right. Oddly enough the european van makers benefited from this arrangement nicely and I am certainly hard pressed to find a Ford Transit that's newer than when the factory moved.

Massed manufacturing is certainly done here in the UK as a whole, and importing a bunch of immigrants isn't going to magically turn back the clock, but we can certainly find more and more ways to specialize and adapt.
 
Don't you want to culturally enrich yourself? White people are the cause of all the problems in the world. The British Empire, Nazis. I mean having sex with a refugee and converting to their religion is the best thing you can do, it shows you are a good person and not an evil person who might have some sense of pride in their country, heritage or race, thats disgusting behaviour if you are white. I mean it's fine for other countries and races because we did really well and they didn't, so its up to us to bring parity to all races and cultures, like a version of Europe wide communism.

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I guess I would rape those girls if I was a Muslim refugee. I would be pushing rope with that chunky one in the middle though.
 
I keep trying to imagine the reasoning that led to so much of the sociopolitical establishment pushing mass migration to the West. At this point I'm wondering if it isn't borne out of resentment from globalists that they are enriching the Chinese by basing manufacturing in their sphere of influence, so they're trying to import a new underclass into Europe to make cheap subsistence manufacturing viable again there.

I'll be very interested to see if minimum wage and safety regulations start being dismantled in places like France and Germany in the next couple of years (barring a fascist uprising since, for some reason, the influencers of the world didn't see a rise in extremist right politics coming as a response to this). Britain's been edging in that direction for a few years with the privatization of parts of the NHS and such, but I'm admittedly even less familiar with continental politics than I am with those in the UK.
I keep wondering about this too. I guess this is the best explanation, idk, it all seems so mad.

This whole thing kind of reminds me of Torchwood 4th season, which had so many things wrong with it but an interesting premise. A shadowy group conspires to make everyone in the world immortal - but you still live after suffering horrendous injuries, and you age normally. You can blow yourself up, or get thrown into the ocean tied to an anchor or whatever and still technically be alive even though you might become unconscious if you're really lucky. Then the shadowy group attempts to make this phenomenon irreversible.
They do this to control the world. They start putting people they don't like in incinerators, figuring that's the only way to actually kill people. They do some other stuff too, I forget, like I said it was a bad series.

Anyway the point is, who would fucking want all that?
Even if you were some rich elite you'd end up aging to 800 and become some blithering corpse, or risk suffering some kind of freak accident that just leaves you in pain all the time. It's a completely mad plot.

But I do wonder how far sighted the people who push for these things are. I don't think it's much. Like you said, they didn't seem to anticipate the far right.
 
But I do wonder how far sighted the people who push for these things are. I don't think it's much. Like you said, they didn't seem to anticipate the far right.

Oddly enough, selling mass immigration to the working class, who do not like the idea of having wages undercut by an abundance of labour, is something that's very easy to talk about when you've never had to actually work a minimum wage job.
 
I keep wondering about this too. I guess this is the best explanation, idk, it all seems so mad.

This whole thing kind of reminds me of Torchwood 4th season, which had so many things wrong with it but an interesting premise. A shadowy group conspires to make everyone in the world immortal - but you still live after suffering horrendous injuries, and you age normally. You can blow yourself up, or get thrown into the ocean tied to an anchor or whatever and still technically be alive even though you might become unconscious if you're really lucky. Then the shadowy group attempts to make this phenomenon irreversible.
They do this to control the world. They start putting people they don't like in incinerators, figuring that's the only way to actually kill people. They do some other stuff too, I forget, like I said it was a bad series.

Anyway the point is, who would fucking want all that?
Even if you were some rich elite you'd end up aging to 800 and become some blithering corpse, or risk suffering some kind of freak accident that just leaves you in pain all the time. It's a completely mad plot.

But I do wonder how far sighted the people who push for these things are. I don't think it's much. Like you said, they didn't seem to anticipate the far right.
You know, people around these parts call a lot of things autistic when they're really just nerdy or long winded, so I just wanted to say that I appreciate your using it accurately.
 
Oddly enough, selling mass immigration to the working class, who do not like the idea of having wages undercut by an abundance of labour, is something that's very easy to talk about when you've never had to actually work a minimum wage job.

This. Right. Fucking. Here.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence wages are being suppressed via mass migration that the "real" wage we should be paid here in the UK is about £8.40 or so an hour for even the most basic job, and this rises to £9-something if you live in London.

Higher rates of pay for basic jobs result in more enthusiasm from the workers, less time off through sickness and greater team cohesion.

But what's the point when you can get people in from Eastern Europe to work the job for you for the absolute legal bare minimum?
 
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