Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[Raikiri]

Does anybody have some concrete numbers for Andromeda or Anthem? I'm pretty sure Anthem actually made profit, a lot less than they expected but profit nevertheless. Andromeda is a little more shaky and it sounds like they are only successful Alan Woke 2 kind of way.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Why does everyone in DA Troonguard know what a nonbinary and a tranny is and no one is questioning it? Why is every race which has it's OWN CULTURE ok with using the terms trans & nonbinary?? Yes, I know why, because the creators are tranny monsters but it makes absolutely no sense ingame. This game makes me sick, ugh.

The game was made for trans propaganda. That was the goal.

 

[Maldavius Figtree]

We just want to play our fucking games and have hot guys/women to look at in them. And no bikini/boobcup armor.

I have not once in my life met a woman that actually 1) really had gaming as one of their core hobbies and 2) actively avoided female characters or games featuring them.

As with basically anything when it comes to female behavior, what they say is essentially worthless when it comes to discerning what they actually want or even do. Not only when it comes to e.g. the men they choose, but also in video games:
Women will consistently say they hate sexualized female characters, but when given the choice, consistently pick them over non-sexualized variants.

 

[Deus Exica]

Every time I check Steamdb the all time high is higher than the day before, and the dip in players is higher than the previous day. Anyone think the devs are fucking around and opening up alt steam accounts to fuck up the numbers?

They hired indians or something to take a bunch of keys, run the game for an hour or two, then leave a positive review. Most of the positive reviews are borderline identical.

So the numbers shoot up as the Indians hop on, then crater when they hop off and refund/never touch the game again.

They all talk like American college students at a team building exercise

It's just how SJW millennials write. The idea of changing your vernacular or sentence structure to immerse everyone in the setting is completely foreign to them. They are literally writing themselves and calling it a day.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Why does everyone in DA Troonguard know what a nonbinary and a tranny is and no one is questioning it? Why is every race which has it's OWN CULTURE ok with using the terms trans & nonbinary?? Yes, I know why, because the creators are tranny monsters but it makes absolutely no sense ingame. This game makes me sick, ugh.

The game was made for trans propaganda. That was the goal.

Under modern leftist worldview, everything is monoculture including language styles and terms (ie, NO GENDERED LANGUAGE) the only things that are allowed to be determined as culture are food and clothing.

 

[popnloch ness monster]

China?? Is there another China where the censorship hungry, anti video game CCP isn't in power? You can't be talking about the china that created laws to regulate how many hours kids under 18 can play video games?

those things aren't mutually exclusive, you can have video games, censor it for western anti-social ideation and a government that legislates for the health of its youth
it's a bit unthinkable in the west, where the norm is that kids start consuming BLACKED porn age 4 lol

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

It absolutely is and the reason it isn't right now is because the Chinese side of everything hasn't set up big 300+ studios or publishing houses yet. If I had to guess the industry over there is very much late 90s like. All they need is people coming together with funding and a publisher and give them a few years to cook and they'll have a corner on the PC market, double so if they get a good international translation.
Someone showed me the trailer for Showa American Story and if a small team can make something like that in Unreal, imagine what proper direction and funding could do.
Just give it 5 years, China is an emerging market and will fill the hole that Western game companies are abandoning due to woke.

On topic, found this vid:
dragon age veilguard steam review conspiracy [KSamFk7xmZY].mp4

That won't happen since you need proper talent and insane amounts of business management to actually make good shit in the cluster fuck that is the modern AAA gaming industry. One good game does not set a trend for the entire market, especially not in a shitscape hellhole like China.
Give it like 5-10 years, China will set up their +300 studios with massive money laundering, early on with proper talent hunting inhouse and abroad, they can probably make a few good games. But soon enough all that shit will explode once the paranoid commie propaganda wing of the state will do the exact same bullshit that the wokies are doing right now and the whole market will crash, purely because of authoritarian propaganda. And that's just he best outcome. Worst case, nothing will change, wokies will just manage to migrate into the Chinese market and keep ruining games. Another thing is patent laws, also know as something that doesn't exist in China, which will further fuck up the industry once the Chinese assembly line kicks in and will undoubtedly begin making shit copypasted games, flooding the market so much that it may actually kill even the indie games scene.
So enjoy it while you can.

those things aren't mutually exclusive, you can have video games, censor it for western anti-social ideation and a government that legislates for the health of its youth
it's a bit unthinkable in the west, where the norm is that kids start consuming BLACKED porn age 4 lol

If the Chinese cared about their youth, first, they'd actually start producing some and second, they'd do something about the little emperor problem. Only thing the Chinese care is about their commie illusion, just as much as the wokies care about their illusion of unisex bullshit. It's the same outhouse stick on both ends.

 

[Third World Aristocrat]

I've only watched people play the beginning of this game.
Does the game explain why the "Veil Jumpers" faction knows that the old elven Gods were tyrants and that Solas was rebelling against them?

I know they aren't exactly Dalish, but I thought the main Dalish understanding was that Fen'Harel was despised as a traitor and the other elven Gods were good guys.
Did they retcon this, do they explain this, or am I misremembering the lore?

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

Looks like Troony McTroony the Game actually lost realistic physics in the game, along with good taste and pretty much everything else... (NikTek video).

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

I haven't played any bioware games so my opinion doesn't mean that much. But I have been playing Baldur's Gate 3 recently and really enjoying it. Yeah, the gay sex stuff is little annoying but it's all completely optional. The obsession with gender ideology dialogue looks so fucking bad in this game, like who is it for? If the game had a character that wanted to deal with stuff, if it was well written, it wouldn't be a problem, but all I've seen so far is so fucking deranged.

Not to mention BG3 wasn't afraid to go there in terms of nudity and such. Veilguard is like.....a Mormon.

 

[Divine right to rule]

Not to mention BG3 wasn't afraid to go there in terms of nudity and such. Veilguard is like.....a Mormon.

Atleast the women in Veilguard are not hideous on purpose like in other "progressive" games. Except the they/them creature ofc.
They are not as hot as Shart or even Karlach, but they are okay looking.

 

[Sho'nuff]

A lot of youtube videos talking about how the game is a failure, basing it off of the 80k concurrent count... but what did they expect out of a DA game? In my opinion, DA is not a huge IP. Unless the devs made an exceptional game, expecting anything north of 100k concurrent isn't reasonable, I feel it's doing fairly well. Drawing comparisons to the China monkey game and Baldur's Gate is ridiculous. BG is a great great game and the monkey game is bottled lightning.
Idk, when you put the 10 year dev cycle the game is meh and doing meh. But when you put the game in perspective that it's a tranny game made for trannies, it's doing pretty well. I'm sure the amount of money that went into the game will be more than what they make, but this is by no means a failure. Most tranny games get less than 1000 players. This one is doing pretty decent numbers for it's frankly perverse foundation.

 

[p1138]

I'm sure the amount of money that went into the game will be more than what they make, but this is by no means a failure.

That is a failure. EA and Bioware aren't a charity, they produce and publish games to make money.

 

[Chilson]

A lot of youtube videos talking about how the game is a failure, basing it off of the 80k concurrent count... but what did they expect out of a DA game? In my opinion, DA is not a huge IP. Unless the devs made an exceptional game, expecting anything north of 100k concurrent isn't reasonable, I feel it's doing fairly well. Drawing comparisons to the China monkey game and Baldur's Gate is ridiculous. BG is a great great game and the monkey game is bottled lightning.
Idk, when you put the 10 year dev cycle the game is meh and doing meh. But when you put the game in perspective that it's a tranny game made for trannies, it's doing pretty well. I'm sure the amount of money that went into the game will be more than what they make, but this is by no means a failure. Most tranny games get less than 1000 players. This one is doing pretty decent numbers for it's frankly perverse foundation.

People keep forgetting that DA Inquisition sold 12 million copies 11 years ago. DA has a pretty massive fanbase, it just doesn't have a vocal one.

 

[Divine right to rule]

That is a failure. EA and Bioware aren't a charity, they produce and publish games to make money.

You would think so, but the suits should be aware that very special lessons about non-binary trans issues by unfuckable and rude musclewomen not only don't sell, it actually hurts sales.

 

[Deus Exica]

In my opinion, DA is not a huge IP.

Inquisition sold very well, making it a pretty huge IP, and Bioware is very well known despite the endless flops they produce. 80K is a fairly small launch for a AAA budget RPG, especially when we had BG3 sprint out of the gate with like 1 million people in launch week.

Now again I think people are hoping for a bit too much. It's not flop of the century and will probably pull in a tidy profit, but in EA terms usually less than 1billion sales is a failure, so its unclear how happy the company will be with its current sales.

People keep forgetting that DA Inquisition sold 12 million copies 11 years ago. DA has a pretty massive fanbase, it just doesn't have a vocal one.

Yeah, Inquisition's reception is mostly lukewarm in terms of cultural impact and staying power but it sold incredibly well. The direct sequel should be doing better than this, even with a decade long gap between releases.

 

[Sho'nuff]

That is a failure. EA and Bioware aren't a charity, they produce and publish games to make money.

I'm looking at it more from the tranny perspective. Nobody likes them and to have probably about a million people with this game in their libraries is a going to be like mainlining crack for those people. Yes it's likely a business failure, but its doing well enough to convince other studios to let more tranny shit slide through.
The only thing that was acceptable for this game was a concord level failure, this isn't that bad.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

A lot of youtube videos talking about how the game is a failure, basing it off of the 80k concurrent count... but what did they expect out of a DA game? In my opinion, DA is not a huge IP. Unless the devs made an exceptional game, expecting anything north of 100k concurrent isn't reasonable, I feel it's doing fairly well. Drawing comparisons to the China monkey game and Baldur's Gate is ridiculous. BG is a great great game and the monkey game is bottled lightning.
Idk, when you put the 10 year dev cycle the game is meh and doing meh. But when you put the game in perspective that it's a tranny game made for trannies, it's doing pretty well. I'm sure the amount of money that went into the game will be more than what they make, but this is by no means a failure. Most tranny games get less than 1000 players. This one is doing pretty decent numbers for it's frankly perverse foundation.

It is just people trying to recreate the Concord/Dustborn magic of low number count. The number itself is not too useful since you can bet game companies would happily waste a lot of money having bots run the game on the start menu so it would appear alive.

 

[Sho'nuff]

People keep forgetting that DA Inquisition sold 12 million copies 11 years ago. DA has a pretty massive fanbase, it just doesn't have a vocal one.

Inquisition sold 12 million copies, over 10 years since release. It didn't sell 12 million copies 10 years ago. The 12 million number comes from the game director in 2024. Wouldn't be surprised if it's concurrent steam + origin numbers aren't too far off from Veilguard at release. DAI is also a pretty good game with a great story that gained traction from word of mouth. But to say it was massively popular... I remember when the DA games came out, they weren't huge launches.

 

[0gh]

I think what's more retarded about the whole "pulling a Barve" is not even the premise. Sure, someone doing stupid shit over misgingering and hurting someone's feelings, whatever.

But why not say "I'm doing pushups"? Pulling a Barve sounds so unnatural and cringy it makes me sad to have heard these words said together. Imagine if dragon ball characters called the kamehameha "pulling a master roshi" or going super saiyan "pulling a goku", or we called getting your ass kicked "pulling a Ralphamale"

Also, 10 pushups to sweat? Whoever wrote this has never done a single pushup in their life. Even if you're severely out of shape, at worst you just can't do the 10 pushups, but there won't be a single drop of sweat on you. Aren't these people supposed to be super fit and strong, shouldn't they do more pushups to actually suffer in some way to actually be consistent?

I think they could have spinned this idea into something okay, at its core it's trying to be a sort of "sharing the suffering" or something, but maybe in a fantasy world with magic it should be related to someone getting cursed because of him, and Barve could have figured out a way to transfer the curse or at least some of it. That way it's not just for saying some wrong words, but for an actual harm, and you're actually sharing the suffering not just the equivalent of taking a few steps.

Yeah it sounds retarded, but it's definitely more interesting than this shit. I'm not a writer at all, I suck at stringing words together as you can see, but imagine if an actual fantasy writer took a shot at it instead of whatever the fuck happened here.