Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[Tor Lugosi]

Didn't they say before that they thought the Inquisitor was a bad character because you just randomly became the chosen one, and NiggeRook is meant to have none of that, to be "meritocratic", "he's there because he's skilled"? What happened to that?

I *think* this was meant to be in reference to the very beginning, wherein the Inquisitor is just some random merc who happens to be in the right place at the right time, where as the Rook supposedly is chosen for the mission against Solas due to his skill or some shit. Regardless, it's a pretty stupid point since they're both ultimately nobody mercs who happened to get lucky.

The power being identical to the Inquisitor's makes me think this really was meant to be a direct sequel to DAI.

 

[Sailor Swift]

I get that it's been a decade IRL and people moved on. But it really took the wind out of the story's sails to set it a decade later, too. They set up this huge apocalyptic event...and nothing happened for ten years? Solas, the epitome of pride and pretentiousness, couldn't be tracked for that long? There's no sense of urgency, and we don't even get to see the resolution or fallout of Inquisition. Like...set the game a few months or something later and have Rook initially be someone caught up in the aftermath, like Hawke.

Also, if they want mechanical stuff so badly, why not just bring back the Qunari gaatlok powder? The actual literal explosive gunpowder stuff? Remember, from da2? It can be set up as some sort of "magic" by an NPC who doesn’t know any better. You're given a mission, you go and expect mages or demons or whatever, and instead you're met with Qunari riflemen. Or what about the poisonous gas that the Qunari have?

I've never seen people so proud of such a squandered storyline.

 

[Snekposter]

My guess is Andrew Busche rebooted it when he took over and since he's never worked on an RPG before (just a golf game and The Sims 3), he decided to make it about The Friends You Made Along The Way with his self-insert characters. He also retooled the gameplay to be closer to Mass Effect which explains two party members and the action RPG combat (but not the retarded skill tree.)

Even then its the shitty Andromeda style setup where they merely exist to be skill carriers, and bad ones at that. In ME1 every single party member had a full lineup of skills same as Shepherd did, that got cut down in ME2 thanks to Dean Takahashi complaining about the gameplay as a result of him being unaware there were skills to level despite the you know, sound effects and level up icon. ME3 improved on that but sadly not to where it was in ME1 and then Andromeda was a combo of ME2 and DA2 where you couldn't even assign them weapons on top of their horribly limited skills.

This is going to be a total fucking disaster gameplay wise, on top of what promises to be one of the worst stories ever.

 

[Haramburger]

I'm so just so confused as to who the audience for this game is.

Why would anyone choose to play this over BGS3 what does this do better than BGS3?

It's obviously made for the fans of 2004's Forgotten Realms: Demon Stone. A 3D brawler that takes King of Dragons to the next level and injects voice acting and story so there's a semblance of reason to kill 80+ mobs of 4 different flavors between bosses.

 

[Disc]

I like that the rename just makes the game easier to mock
Veilguard more like Failguard huehuehuehuehuehuehueuheuheuheuheuheuheuhuheuheu

 

[I'm Really Feeling It]

VPNguard coming off more and more like an on-rails experience where they want the romancing to be the highlight. The rest of the way you make one build that ploughs through everything, everyone in the party is without arguments or conflict, and any villains will be easily dealt with and everyone lives happily ever after. Happy to be proven wrong, Bioware.

Side note, Blackwall doesn't get enough love in this thread. He's the only good thing about Inquisition.

 

[Peaches the Wonder Cat]

ploughs through everything,

What are the chances Failguard supports you forming a polycule?

I don't mean multiple romances, I mean polycule.

 

[Mola Ram]

What are the chances Failguard supports you forming a polycule?

I don't mean multiple romances, I mean polycule.

Definitely nonzero. Origins already has several arrangements for a three way (or four way!) with Isabela at The Pearl, and you can let her cuck you with Zevran in DA2. This is just taking such goofy dalliances and elevating them to the level of We Must Take This Degeneracy As Heckin Valid Serious Relationships.

 

[Sailor Swift]

VPNguard coming off more and more like an on-rails experience where they want the romancing to be the highlight. The rest of the way you make one build that ploughs through everything, everyone in the party is without arguments or conflict, and any villains will be easily dealt with and everyone lives happily ever after. Happy to be proven wrong, Bioware.

Side note, Blackwall doesn't get enough love in this thread. He's the only good thing about Inquisition.

Blackwall is so underrated. I dragged his ass everywhere because he was my go-to tank.

What are the chances Failguard supports you forming a polycule?

I don't mean multiple romances, I mean polycule.

Oh, there's a particularly vocal part of the fandom that's insisting on making a polycule and hoping that it's a thing. From what I can tell, they're part of those who are trying to silence the people who are expressing any sort of negative opinion about the romance options. It's rather fucking obnoxious.

 

[Mola Ram]

Blackwall is so underrated. I dragged his ass everywhere because he was my go-to tank.

During my first playthrough, before I had a handle on fighting dragons, Blackwall was the last man standing for more than one of those battles. After that, he only goes unused if I'm playing a sword & board Warrior myself, which isn't often. Great personal story, nice romance, excellent voice work, great banter with just about everyone (he manages to make Sera almost tolerable!). He's one of the reasons DAI remains a guilty pleasure for me.

Oh, there's a particularly vocal part of the fandom that's insisting on making a polycule and hoping that it's a thing. From what I can tell, they're part of those who are trying to silence the people who are expressing any sort of negative opinion about the romance options. It's rather fucking obnoxious.

This is why I had to post a Milhouse hug for you. Rarely in my life have I been a fan of anything where the fandom was so insufferable that I stopped telling people I enjoy it. Perfect example would be when DA4's acronym was "DAD," and all the sexual bizarros started giggling about "Solas is Daddy Wolf!" Vomit.

 

[lukewarm coffee]

The beautiful world of Thedas, with all of its rich history, mystery, and genuine, good diversity—people of different races, religions, codes of honor, ethics and philosophies, politics—has been reduced to a shallow fantasy faggot fuck-land. Echoing many, I expected so little and they still managed to blow right through the bottom. Amazing and very sad.

 

[Snekposter]

Side note, Blackwall doesn't get enough love in this thread. He's the only good thing about Inquisition.

The only characters I remember anything of from that game are Sera, because of how annoying she is, Cole, because he has a genuinely interesting concept, and Solas, because... he's Solas.

Oh, and Varric, but that's because Varric is just a chill dude who is fun to hang around. That drunken card game was a great scene.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

The beautiful world of Thedas, with all of its rich history, mystery, and genuine, good diversity—people of different races, religions, codes of honor, ethics and philosophies, politics—has been reduced to a shallow fantasy faggot fuck-land. Echoing many, I expected so little and they still managed to blow right through the bottom. Amazing and very sad.

You can see how the entire Fantasy genre died the last decade, going from grimdark into YA fellating and "my magical land".

 

[Weltraumfürst]

You can see how the entire Fantasy genre died the last decade, going from grimdark into YA fellating and "my magical land".

I actually love me some good magical realm stuff, but I have websites for that. I didn't really mind when Origins or The Witcher did it, but now it's fucking everywhere.

 

[Sailor Swift]

During my first playthrough, before I had a handle on fighting dragons, Blackwall was the last man standing for more than one of those battles. After that, he only goes unused if I'm playing a sword & board Warrior myself, which isn't often. Great personal story, nice romance, excellent voice work, great banter with just about everyone (he manages to make Sera almost tolerable!). He's one of the reasons DAI remains a guilty pleasure for me.



This is why I had to post a Milhouse hug for you. Rarely in my life have I been a fan of anything where the fandom was so insufferable that I stopped telling people I enjoy it. Perfect example would be when DA4's acronym was "DAD," and all the sexual bizarros started giggling about "Solas is Daddy Wolf!" Vomit.

The fandom has always had a degree of obnoxious fangirling. There's always been infighting. But it wasn't always this brand of hypocritical faggotry. Other than my poor luck in knowing a fangirl IRL, this thread has been the first time I've really connected with other people who enjoy the series in....years? I think?

It's really turned into an embarrassing mess, made worse by the fact that it's running off new people who might have a differing opinion.

 

[Male Idiot]

You can see how the entire Fantasy genre died the last decade, going from grimdark into YA fellating and "my magical land".

Dare you enter my magical realm?

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

At this point, just give Dragon Age to Larian, Obsidian or Inexile, and reboot it as an isometric RPG team-based game ala BG/Wasteland, or give it to CDPR and make it a solo-action RPG.

The hardest thing to swallow about Failguard (love the name) is if the gameplay works, or that there are glimpses of good characters, fights, action and story, strangled by incompetence and messaging.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

It's really turned into an embarrassing mess, made worse by the fact that it's running off new people who might have a differing opinion.

Dragon Age still trails behind Mass Effect because the fandom doesn't have its own equivalent to the infamous thesis on Tali's sweat. That's somthing... right?

 

[kokokrunch123]

Blackwall is so underrated

Blackwall was the last man standing for more than one of those battles

Warden Thom Rainier is a bro. X]

he might be orlesian. but he's aight.. for an orlesian.

 

[Tablet County]

Also holy fuck, I forgot about that bitch. How THE FUCK IS THAT ALLISTAIRS MOTHER NIGGA? BITCH IS MEANT TO BE DEAD. You're telling me that Allistair is the son of an ELF MAGE, that she managed to cure her darkspawn AIDs, totally abandoned Goldanna and just happens to show up randomly in Redcliff as the grand enchanter for the mages?

I didn't actually know this because I always pick the templars, on account of the mage quest sucking. Also I get Cole earlier.