Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[CarlosDanger]

I saw this earlier, sounds like shit.

https://archive.md/2KbAI

Two sources have revealed that some of those multiplayer components are still ‘sensed’ to some degree in the current build of the game – with one source saying “the game felt a bit like Destiny with a central hub where players could probably regroup before heading into the next mission”. The games hub, though, will still play a vital role in Dreadwolf in its single-player format.

As for combat, one source, who recently played the game, suggested that it was more akin to a hack n’ slash compared to past games, and the game’s combat wheel is similar to that of the one in Final Fantasy 15. As for your crew, it was said that you currently cannot control them and only select the ability they can cast in combat.

 

[Super Hans v2]

I saw this earlier, sounds like shit.

https://archive.md/2KbAI

Two sources have revealed that some of those multiplayer components are still ‘sensed’ to some degree in the current build of the game – with one source saying “the game felt a bit like Destiny with a central hub where players could probably regroup before heading into the next mission”. The games hub, though, will still play a vital role in Dreadwolf in its single-player format.

As for combat, one source, who recently played the game, suggested that it was more akin to a hack n’ slash compared to past games, and the game’s combat wheel is similar to that of the one in Final Fantasy 15. As for your crew, it was said that you currently cannot control them and only select the ability they can cast in combat.

If this wasn't Bioware, I'd find it hard to believe that a series could go from being a modernization of a then-dead genre made out of love to being the worst of modern day gaming.

 

[BiggerChungus]

I saw this earlier, sounds like shit.

https://archive.md/2KbAI

Two sources have revealed that some of those multiplayer components are still ‘sensed’ to some degree in the current build of the game – with one source saying “the game felt a bit like Destiny with a central hub where players could probably regroup before heading into the next mission”. The games hub, though, will still play a vital role in Dreadwolf in its single-player format.

As for combat, one source, who recently played the game, suggested that it was more akin to a hack n’ slash compared to past games, and the game’s combat wheel is similar to that of the one in Final Fantasy 15. As for your crew, it was said that you currently cannot control them and only select the ability they can cast in combat.

I can't think of a major title coming out that has less hype or fanfare than Deadname. I wouldn't be surprised if even the troon devs start quitting.

 

[TVB]

Would it make sense if this thread should be renamed to the Dragon Age Grieving Thread?

 

[ZMOT]

From what i remember Kai Leng was first in one of the books between 2 and 3
Edit: Oops post is for @Krokodil Overdose

I think comic first, then book, but not sure. book is where the "cereal killer" meme comes from. it's why most people don't know who the fuck he is when he suddenly pops up in 3.

He also created a massive plot hole for ME2- if TIM had this guy in his back pocket the whole time, why did he need to bring Shepard back? Or if Shepard possessed some je ne sais quoi that Kai didn't, why not have them work together? The fate of all life in the galaxy was at stake, this is not a scenario to play it safe.

Of course, a lot of ME3's sins were dictates by it's weird relationship with ME2- like having Miranda claim she didn't know how ghoulish the Shepard resurrection project was despite being literally in charge of it. The problem was that ME2 had the moral complexity of trying to save all life by working with the space-Klan, and that sort of thing isn't allowed in [the current year.]

because shepard is shepard, and leng wasn't the most sane individual, just very capable. iirc there was also some shit where leng felt betrayed or had other issues with shepard or an injury or whatever, my impression from what I heard was bioware tried to pull some tragic feud between "brothers" or something, but never read the books myself.

as for ghoulish, can't remember the exact line but it might be in terms she didn't know what she signed up for and then stayed because shepard is shepard.

a lot in mass effect is implied, in the hope the player fills the holes or makes up his own mind, even if it's not an outright plot hole. imho it's one of the reasons the games worked as well as they did instead of vomiting everything in your face with zero depth like modern games do. also lets bioware get away with lot of shit because there's just enough to bamboozle and pave over the cracks, till they went fully off-rails.

 

[Mola Ram]

I think comic first, then book, but not sure. book is where the "cereal killer" meme comes from. it's why most people don't know who the fuck he is when he suddenly pops up in 3.

I've railed about this before, but one of Dragon Age's biggest issues is that by the time Inquisition rolled around, huge chunks of the world and lore were relegated to comic books and novels, and it could be difficult to know or care about fairly major plot points in the game itself. For me, the biggest issue was the War of the Lions, which should have been a much bigger part of the game proper, or at least explained in more detail, even if only in codex entries. It's not as big a problem in Mass Effect, but things like Kai Leng and "Grayson" (I'm still not clear on who he was) pop up a few times in ME3. And as this excerpt shows, the worst thing about expecting the player to be familiar with this material is that the books and comics in question (and the DA cartoon currently airing) are fucking atrocious.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

there has been leaks of the new game! it looks like ASS!

Spoiler: game information

>Combat is completely in real-time and similar to a hack and slash. I'm told the guiding reference point was the God of War (201, and that shows.
>Player has their regular combo attack and then their abilities as well as a special bar which generates allowing you to pull off a special move. I don't really understand the comparison to FF15's wheel. It's standard Dragon Age ability wheel.
>There was no party control demonstrated. I think it's a safe bet to say you will not be able to directly control your party members in the game. That said, you likely will be able to tell them to execute certain abilities. But apparently that was locked off in the Alpha.
>The most immediate thing you noticed is that animation quality has DRASTICALLY improved. Like, for any other AAA title it's probably not that big a deal. But we've never seen animation quality this good in any BioWare game. I didn't actually play it, but I can tell it probably feels really good to control your character. No more stiff animations, it's all very fluid and seems also very responsive.
>Jumping has also been retained. So, rejoice if you enjoyed jumping a lot in DAI.
>As the character was a sword and shield dude, he was able to parry attacks from enemies and follow up with counters. It's hard to tell their exact abilities, they only had two on hotkeys along with a special. But one appears to basically be a drop kick and the other a charged sword attack. I'm not sure exactly what the special attack does.
>The UI is similar to DAI, but this is also Alpha and UI is the last thing finalized in any game. Character has a chest slot, a helmet slot, a primary weapon slot, and a shield (secondary weapon?) slot. For accessories, one amulet slot, one belt slot, and two ring slots.

 

[Mola Ram]

there has been leaks of the new game! it looks like ASS!


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Spoiler: game information

>Combat is completely in real-time and similar to a hack and slash. I'm told the guiding reference point was the God of War (201, and that shows.
>Player has their regular combo attack and then their abilities as well as a special bar which generates allowing you to pull off a special move. I don't really understand the comparison to FF15's wheel. It's standard Dragon Age ability wheel.
>There was no party control demonstrated. I think it's a safe bet to say you will not be able to directly control your party members in the game. That said, you likely will be able to tell them to execute certain abilities. But apparently that was locked off in the Alpha.
>The most immediate thing you noticed is that animation quality has DRASTICALLY improved. Like, for any other AAA title it's probably not that big a deal. But we've never seen animation quality this good in any BioWare game. I didn't actually play it, but I can tell it probably feels really good to control your character. No more stiff animations, it's all very fluid and seems also very responsive.
>Jumping has also been retained. So, rejoice if you enjoyed jumping a lot in DAI.
>As the character was a sword and shield dude, he was able to parry attacks from enemies and follow up with counters. It's hard to tell their exact abilities, they only had two on hotkeys along with a special. But one appears to basically be a drop kick and the other a charged sword attack. I'm not sure exactly what the special attack does.
>The UI is similar to DAI, but this is also Alpha and UI is the last thing finalized in any game. Character has a chest slot, a helmet slot, a primary weapon slot, and a shield (secondary weapon?) slot. For accessories, one amulet slot, one belt slot, and two ring slots.

Dear God, it looks like a phone game.

 

[Zaryiu2]

Would it make sense if this thread should be renamed to the Dragon Age Grieving Thread?

That or Bioware Grieving Thread

 

[ZMOT]

"Grayson" (I'm still not clear on who he was) pop up a few times in ME3.

Paul Grayson

Paul Grayson is a Cerberus operative, red sand addict and the adoptive father of the autistic biotic Gillian Grayson. He is also a certified starship pilot. Grayson is tall and thin with dark hair. His addiction to red sand gives him red, bloodshot eyes and luminous teeth, common to all addicts...

masseffect.fandom.com

had to look it up because I don't even remember that dude.

there has been leaks of the new game! it looks like ASS!
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jump kick in full armor with two steps momentum

 

[xXEddie.DurellXx]

Now this is epic

 

[Lyster]

I really liked the way dragon age and inquisition made it's gaming world as interconnected areas which had different styles and vibes instead of Open world or linear gameplay, so much so that DA:I is one of the few games i 100% completed. So i was wondering if anyone here knows any other RPGs that use this same gameplay philosophy?

 

[Character from a movie]

I really liked the way dragon age and inquisition made it's gaming world as interconnected areas which had different styles and vibes instead of Open world or linear gameplay, so much so that DA:I is one of the few games i 100% completed. So i was wondering if anyone here knows any other RPGs that use this same gameplay philosophy?

Iirc The Outer Worlds isn't an open world... Well because the story is set in different worlds. The story and the characters are bland but it has some fun quests and the weapons and combat mode are cool.
I suppose the Mass Effect trilogy is more similar to Dragon Age's gameplay since the developer is the same one. I liked Mass Effect Andromeda, but it felt more open-worldly.

 

[Snekposter]

there has been leaks of the new game! it looks like ASS!


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Spoiler: game information

>Combat is completely in real-time and similar to a hack and slash. I'm told the guiding reference point was the God of War (201, and that shows.
>Player has their regular combo attack and then their abilities as well as a special bar which generates allowing you to pull off a special move. I don't really understand the comparison to FF15's wheel. It's standard Dragon Age ability wheel.
>There was no party control demonstrated. I think it's a safe bet to say you will not be able to directly control your party members in the game. That said, you likely will be able to tell them to execute certain abilities. But apparently that was locked off in the Alpha.
>The most immediate thing you noticed is that animation quality has DRASTICALLY improved. Like, for any other AAA title it's probably not that big a deal. But we've never seen animation quality this good in any BioWare game. I didn't actually play it, but I can tell it probably feels really good to control your character. No more stiff animations, it's all very fluid and seems also very responsive.
>Jumping has also been retained. So, rejoice if you enjoyed jumping a lot in DAI.
>As the character was a sword and shield dude, he was able to parry attacks from enemies and follow up with counters. It's hard to tell their exact abilities, they only had two on hotkeys along with a special. But one appears to basically be a drop kick and the other a charged sword attack. I'm not sure exactly what the special attack does.
>The UI is similar to DAI, but this is also Alpha and UI is the last thing finalized in any game. Character has a chest slot, a helmet slot, a primary weapon slot, and a shield (secondary weapon?) slot. For accessories, one amulet slot, one belt slot, and two ring slots.

I expected nothing and I'm still let down.

 

[Super Hans v2]

there has been leaks of the new game! it looks like ASS!


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Damn, when did ESO add jumping to combat?

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Dear God, it looks like a phone game.

The recently cancelled battlefield mobile looked better than this.

https://youtu.be/h9GsAoEpFXI

https://youtu.be/rTEiJSO5dO8

 

[Buddy Booth]

there has been leaks of the new game! it looks like ASS!


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Spoiler: game information

>Combat is completely in real-time and similar to a hack and slash. I'm told the guiding reference point was the God of War (201, and that shows.
>Player has their regular combo attack and then their abilities as well as a special bar which generates allowing you to pull off a special move. I don't really understand the comparison to FF15's wheel. It's standard Dragon Age ability wheel.
>There was no party control demonstrated. I think it's a safe bet to say you will not be able to directly control your party members in the game. That said, you likely will be able to tell them to execute certain abilities. But apparently that was locked off in the Alpha.
>The most immediate thing you noticed is that animation quality has DRASTICALLY improved. Like, for any other AAA title it's probably not that big a deal. But we've never seen animation quality this good in any BioWare game. I didn't actually play it, but I can tell it probably feels really good to control your character. No more stiff animations, it's all very fluid and seems also very responsive.
>Jumping has also been retained. So, rejoice if you enjoyed jumping a lot in DAI.
>As the character was a sword and shield dude, he was able to parry attacks from enemies and follow up with counters. It's hard to tell their exact abilities, they only had two on hotkeys along with a special. But one appears to basically be a drop kick and the other a charged sword attack. I'm not sure exactly what the special attack does.
>The UI is similar to DAI, but this is also Alpha and UI is the last thing finalized in any game. Character has a chest slot, a helmet slot, a primary weapon slot, and a shield (secondary weapon?) slot. For accessories, one amulet slot, one belt slot, and two ring slots.

From the gameplay description it sounds like they stripped the last shreds of identity Dragon Age had and they're just making fantasy Mass Effect. Also lol, 0 chance they manage a 2023 release. How long has this even been in development? It still looks like early alpha.

Again, I'll never understand why EA keeps Bioware around. If it's true this is just a repurposed MP game the production must've been one hell of a money pit.

 

[Kane Lives]

From the gameplay description it sounds like they stripped the last shreds of identity Dragon Age had and they're just making fantasy Mass Effect. Also lol, 0 chance they manage a 2023 release. How long has this even been in development? It still looks like early alpha.

Again, I'll never understand why EA keeps Bioware around. If it's true this is just a repurposed MP game the production must've been one hell of a money pit.

Bioware is one of the last few remaining recognisable brandname studios they still retained from the 2010s, since they already ran down and gutted Maxis, Visceral, DICE, and Westwood. Mark my words though, I doubt there's much life remaining in there before they simply shutter the Austin office or just downsize it and rename it to EA Texas or something.

 

[The Ugly One]

I wonder if the entertainment industry is ever going to learn to stop handing over valuable IP to weird losers to destroy.

 

[Mola Ram]

How long has this even been in development? It still looks like early alpha.

Generously, assuming they didn't start until after the Trespasser DLC released and then took a few months away from the IP, since 2016. But the date I keep hearing is 2015. Inexcusable either way, even accounting for the all hands on deck scramble they had when Anthem turned up a worthless turd.