Let's hope as they get older, their tastes will change and they'll leave that behind. Scrapbook your memories and photos, sell those damned Disney pins, and use your Disney movies as a once-a-year nostalgia rewatch.
It'll likely get worse, tbh. I know a lady who is retired and obsessed with Disney World, she goes every year either with her (adult) daughter or with a friend. And when the subject comes up in conversation she'll go on an autistic half-hour long sperg about how wonderful Disney is, and how it's totally worth the money and far better than a cruise or tropical vacation or any other kind of vacation.
It'll likely get worse, tbh. I know a lady who is retired and obsessed with Disney World, she goes every year either with her (adult) daughter or with a friend. And when the subject comes up in conversation she'll go on an autistic half-hour long sperg about how wonderful Disney is, and how it's totally worth the money and far better than a cruise or tropical vacation or any other kind of vacation.
Yeah, if Disney gets into a kid's brain at a young enough age, they're usually in for life. They go after kids harder than a pedophile and they sink those fangs in deep.
Disney fully understands the long game when it comes to creating fanatics and 100% prioritizes kids above all else in their park operations. They'll drop everything (including older guests) to make sure a young child isn't having a bad time at their parks. Hell, if a parent dolls up their daughter in "princess" garb for her park visit, they'll mute their own fucking ads and shush everybody just to shine a spotlight on her and announce to everyone that they've been graced with the presence of a Disney Princess(tm). And that will happen everywhere she goes all fucking day long. Want to see Disney actually cough up a non-trivial freebie or two? Send your "princess" in first wherever you go in the parks. Employees have been fired for not making a big enough spectacle of it, so they tend to put out the good china when they turn up.
Fucking lunatics.
And god help your lady friend if she ever realizes Disney has a vacation cruise line that sails to tropical destinations. She'll die penniless and alone.
Yeah, if Disney gets into a kid's brain at a young enough age, they're usually in for life. They go after kids harder than a pedophile and they sink those fangs in deep.
Disney fully understands the long game when it comes to creating fanatics and 100% prioritizes kids above all else in their park operations. They'll drop everything (including older guests) to make sure a young child isn't having a bad time at their parks.
That makes me curious as to what would have happened if I ever went as a kid. I know I would have been bored as hell. just wanting to go back to the hotel room to play my GameBoy or something.
That makes me curious as to what would have happened if I ever went as a kid. I know I would have been bored as hell. just wanting to go back to the hotel room to play my GameBoy or something.
I did go as a kid, once, and once again as an adult. It was actually a pretty good park and I appreciated it as an amusement park but even as a kid I was cynical enough to not trust advertising due to my parents and grandparents raising me to be skeptical of claims made by strangers. I think it really depends on how you raise your kids, I really enjoyed museums as a kid, even museums that didn't try to appeal to kids.
That makes me curious as to what would have happened if I ever went as a kid. I know I would have been bored as hell. just wanting to go back to the hotel room to play my GameBoy or something.
I went to Disneyland once as a kid, probably 10-11 years old. Boring as fuck. I have never been more underwhelmed by a theme park. I've been dragged to Disneyworld as an adult on a couple occasions, and it's just as dreadfully dull as it was back on the west coast only much bigger, more spread out and with about a hundred times as many credit card readers.
Universal Studios, Six Flags, Busch Gardens and even Knott's Berry Farm are far better. The only thing keeping Disney going these days is a combination of inertia, frantic scrambling to ensnare fresh fanatics while they're young and constant acquisitions and mergers to add existing popular stuff to their portfolio. Disney hasn't come up with anything new of its own in recent years that's achieved any degree of success (at the scale they need it to, at least) or staying power at all.
That makes me curious as to what would have happened if I ever went as a kid. I know I would have been bored as hell. just wanting to go back to the hotel room to play my GameBoy or something.
Funnily enough, when I went to Disneyworld back when I was like 10, my mom insisted we avoid Magic Kingdom cause it was way too crowded and commit our 5 day stay to Epcot and some adjacent water parks instead. I didn’t give a fuckshit about Disney properties anyway and had more fun just browsing Epcot’s little exhibits of different world cultures. I probably avoided the more obnoxious Disney fanatics in doing so anyway.
I doubt I would shell out the money to go back as an adult though. Hell, the corporate sterility of everything bugged me as a kid!
That makes me curious as to what would have happened if I ever went as a kid. I know I would have been bored as hell. just wanting to go back to the hotel room to play my GameBoy or something.
Can't go into any detail because it's a hell of a powerlevel, but when I was a kid, I was actually supposed to go to Disneyland at one point, but my trip got canceled. Even at the time, I remember not really caring too much. It's always fun to go somewhere new, but hey, now all the stress of pretending to care about anything Disney is lifted, and I can stay home and play Nintendo and watch Nickelodeon.
Eeeeeeeeeexactly. Way later on, I realized I would have been down there while Nickelodeon Studios was still open, and I'm sure if I caught wind of that, I'd have wanted to go there instead. They also had that Back to the Future ride.
The whole thing with millenials being into Disney perplexes me, anyway. The one, sole Disney property I really enjoyed as a kid was Aladdin, but I only really enjoyed that for Genie, and Genie was moreso just Robin Williams doing his own thing than anything particularly Disney. Everything else I'd seen from Disney, I didn't care about. There wasn't even anything on Disney Channel I ever watched. It was all Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network for me. I don't remember any other kids ever being into Disney properties, either. It just wasn't a thing back then, but you wouldn't know it nowadays.
Funnily enough, when I went to Disneyworld back when I was like 10, my mom insisted we avoid Magic Kingdom cause it was way too crowded and commit our 5 day stay to Epcot and some adjacent water parks instead. I didn’t give a fuckshit about Disney properties anyway and had more fun just browsing Epcot’s little exhibits of different world cultures. I probably avoided the more obnoxious Disney fanatics in doing so anyway.
I doubt I would shell out the money to go back as an adult though. Hell, the corporate sterility of everything bugged me as a kid!
It probably would have bugged me, too, and yeah, I'm sure I'd only really want to see Epcot. Not that I'd go out of my way to see it, but it'd just be something to do that I'd at least get something out of, ironically, considering it's supposed to be a child-centric wonderland that costs a small fortune to even just visit.
Millenials grew up in the late eighties through the late nineties, this was the Disney Renaissance era. From 1989-1999 Disney studios would produce almost all of it's most famous animated works one right after the other, you know the ones they keep remaking ad-nauseum? All from that span of years. Disney also saw massive success in television animation during that era as well as things like Radio Disney and what not.
1989: The Little Mermaid
1990: The Rescuers: Down Under
1991: Beauty and The Beast
1992: Aladdin
1994: The Lion King (This was the highest grossing animated film of all time, grossing 968.5 million dollars world wide, until 2003 when Finding Nemo took it over. To this day The Lion King is still the highest grossing hand drawn animated film of all time and currently sits at twelfth place for all animated films)
1995: Pocahontas
1996: The Hunchback of Notre Dame
1997: Hercules
1998: Mulan
1999: Tarzan
Following the official end of this era Disney still put out some really good animated films though, a lot of those would go on to become cult classics too and many of the children that would form the tail end of the millenial generation grew up with them. Films such as Fantasia 2000, The Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis: The Lost City, and Treasure Planet are good examples of this.
smartphone "buttons" a shit, you're better off trying to build a rasberry pi or use the new emulator machines the chinese are making.
I had one that was ok for 30 bucks but the buttons were awkward, emulation was iffy and it eventually died. I'm sure better models will come out soon that will even be as nigh indestructable as nintendium.
A few years ago I'd agree with you on the state of mobile emulation and the incompatibility of a lot of external devices, but nowadays you can use full size keyboards with phones easily and gamepad grips for full portability.
Millenials grew up in the late eighties through the late nineties, this was the Disney Renaissance era. From 1989-1999 Disney studios would produce almost all of it's most famous animated works one right after the other, you know the ones they keep remaking ad-nauseum? All from that span of years. Disney also saw massive success in television animation during that era as well as things like Radio Disney and what not.
1989: The Little Mermaid
1990: The Rescuers: Down Under
1991: Beauty and The Beast
1992: Aladdin
1994: The Lion King (This was the highest grossing animated film of all time, grossing 968.5 million dollars world wide, until 2003 when Finding Nemo took it over. To this day The Lion King is still the highest grossing hand drawn animated film of all time and currently sits at twelfth place for all animated films)
1995: Pocahontas
1996: The Hunchback of Notre Dame
1997: Hercules
1998: Mulan
1999: Tarzan
Following the official end of this era Disney still put out some really good animated films though, a lot of those would go on to become cult classics too and many of the children that would form the tail end of the millenial generation grew up with them. Films such as Fantasia 2000, The Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis: The Lost City, and Treasure Planet are good examples of this.
The two that I watched from that era were Aladdin and The Lion King, probably both on VHS because I would have been super young when those were new. But, I honestly don't remember any other kids being especially into anything Disney produced at the time, let alone any of my childhood friends. There was tons of excellent children's entertainment back then, and I'd probably have been (rightfully) called a fag if I wanted to watch Pocahontas over Power Rangers.
The two that I watched from that era were Aladdin and The Lion King, and none of my friends cared about anything Disney. In fact, I honestly don't remember any other kids being especially into anything Disney produced at the time. There was tons of excellent children's entertainment at the time, and I'd probably have been (rightfully) called a fag if I wanted to watch Pocahontas over Power Rangers.
I grew up right on the tail end of all that shit and a lot of kids liked Disney but Star Wars was making a huge comeback and anime was starting to become more widely available with better localizations and so most of us watched that shit instead.
I grew up right on the tail end of all that shit and a lot of kids liked Disney but Star Wars was making a huge comeback and anime was starting to become more widely available with better localizations and so most of us watched that shit instead.
Same here grew up on the tail end of that wave but Star Wars we’re huge for me as a kid, especially the first two lego Star Wars games. I remember going to my cousins house (they were significantly order from 6-10 years) and they had a big collection of Disney VHSs. For some reason I was fascinated by Pocahontas 2 because I wanted to see more English colonialism and I wanted to see where the based colonizers came from.
I was also fascinated by the cover art and after seeing a few minutes of the Road to El Dorado. Same deal with the history of colonialism aspect. Just I could never remember what the name of the film was for the longest time.
Same here grew up on the tail end of that wave but Star Wars we’re huge for me as a kid, especially the first two lego Star Wars games. I remember going to my cousins house (they were significantly order from 6-10 years) and they had a big collection of Disney VHSs. For some reason I was fascinated by Pocahontas 2 because I wanted to see more English colonialism and I wanted to see where the based colonizers came from.
I was also fascinated by the cover art and after seeing a few minutes of the Road to El Dorado. Same deal with the history of colonialism aspect. Just I could never remember what the name of the film was for the longest time.
I had all the Disney animated films growing up and I liked most of them but they never became anything more than just good movies to me. I was never asking for Disney toys or merch as a kid, I wanted Power Rangers and Star Wars and mangas. Even for western animation the non-Diney studio films left a larger impression on me as a kid, movies like Balto, Secret of NIMH, An American Tale, Road To El Dorado, and even Anastasia wowed me more as a kid due to their generally more serious tones.
Can't go into any detail because it's a hell of a powerlevel, but when I was a kid, I was actually supposed to go to Disneyland at one point, but my trip got canceled. Even at the time, I remember not really caring too much. It's always fun to go somewhere new, but hey, now all the stress of pretending to care about anything Disney is lifted, and I can stay home and play Nintendo and watch Nickelodeon.
Eeeeeeeeeexactly. Way later on, I realized I would have been down there while Nickelodeon Studios was still open, and I'm sure if I caught wind of that, I'd have wanted to go there instead. They also had that Back to the Future ride.
The whole thing with millenials being into Disney perplexes me, anyway. The one, sole Disney property I really enjoyed as a kid was Aladdin, but I only really enjoyed that for Genie, and Genie was moreso just Robin Williams doing his own thing than anything particularly Disney. Everything else I'd seen from Disney, I didn't care about. There wasn't even anything on Disney Channel I ever watched. It was all Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network for me. I don't remember any other kids ever being into Disney properties, either. It just wasn't a thing back then, but you wouldn't know it nowadays.
It probably would have bugged me, too, and yeah, I'm sure I'd only really want to see Epcot. Not that I'd go out of my way to see it, but it'd just be something to do that I'd at least get something out of, ironically, considering it's supposed to be a child-centric wonderland that costs a small fortune to even just visit.
I am a millenial and i do have some memories of liking some Disney movies, arguably the only saving grace of that brand is good animation features every so often but at around 8 i was already into anime and videogames so forget it, it was over and done by then. Even my sister was over Disney pretty early too and was more into Sailor Moon and Buffy the vampire slayer.
Now that i think about it not many contemporary people in my life have ever been that afectionate towards Disney at all, certainly not my friends or partners either so is not like a boys vs girls thing, always saw Disney fandom as narcissistic rich kids.
That makes me curious as to what would have happened if I ever went as a kid. I know I would have been bored as hell. just wanting to go back to the hotel room to play my GameBoy or something.
Dunno. I was 12 when I went to Disneyworld (only time I ever went), and if I hadn't gone on some very nice late winter days I know I would've been utterly miserable. EPCOT had some fun rides and some "interesting" ideas (even at that age I knew something was kinda creepy about Walt Disney's ideas on how society should work, but it's kinda cool in the retro-future sense). Animal Kingdom is decent and Magic Kingdom has some good rides, but there's really nothing special compared to the average Six Flags park other than the fact it's cleaner and the clientele is USUALLY a little better. The entire appeal is "you really like Disney", and since I never really liked Disney (aside from Atlantis and maybe Tarzan, none of their movies I ever got obsessive about even if I liked them), it just doesn't appeal to me.
Disneyland though is a straight up skip, just go to Knott's Berry Farm or Magic Mountain instead if you want to wait in line all day. At least Disneyworld you can pay a little more to go between all the other parks, and EPCOT is just truly fucking weird to the point it's probably the only place I'd feel the slightest bit tempted to revisit as an adult. I'm more versed in ethnic stereotypes too so EPCOT's World Showcase would actually be fun.
Personally, I don't want to wait 2 hours in sweltering Florida/California heat to ride a mediocre rollercoaster or listen to some annoying musical reject, but maybe some people like that. I can't imagine why, but if I knew why people do weird things, I wouldn't be on Kiwifarms would I now?
The two that I watched from that era were Aladdin and The Lion King, probably both on VHS because I would have been super young when those were new. But, I honestly don't remember any other kids being especially into anything Disney produced at the time, let alone any of my childhood friends. There was tons of excellent children's entertainment back then, and I'd probably have been (rightfully) called a fag if I wanted to watch Pocahontas over Power Rangers.
Disney was very popular among kids, especially girls, when I was like 3-8, since this was just in the wake of the Disney Rennaisance. Going over to a friends' house to watch a movie it would almost always be Disney, and I had a lot of the VHS tapes of the movies myself which I watched religiously, although my favourites were Mulan and Fantasia.
In around 2003-4 Disney came out with this subscription based magazine series, which would come packaged with a porcelain doll of a disney character.
They look like this. Soldier Mulan was my favourite doll, I still have this one almost 20 years later. This doll is actually the most robust of the entire series since she's fully clothed in a tight suit so the limbs can't get loose and fall off. The limbs inside were held together with elactic threaded through a hole in the very top of the limb, but since the limbs themselves were porcelain the holes which the elastic went through would get weak and break if you put too much pressure on them by, say, repeatedly playing with the dolls and posing them and moving the limbs around and dropping them etc. Soldier Mulan has fairly limited range of movement due to her outfit, so her limbs were in less danger of suddenly dropping from their sockets
I think the point of the dolls was to collect and display them (If I'm rememebring the adverts right). My friend got the first one before me and I wanted one so badly. I begged and pleaded and eventually my mother relented and got the subscription. This was in the early 00s so you had to sign up through a form at W.H.Smiths (Stationary shop that used to be the best place on earth as far as I was concerned- lots of kids' books, coloured pens and notebooks, sweets, magazines, video games etc.) and then every fortnight they would put your magazine in a filing cabinet in the store and you'd have to go and pick it up. I have absolutely no idea why they wouldn't just send it to your house, but doing it this way meant that my Mum would take me on a special trip to Smiths in the shopping centre every couple of weeks after school, which was a big treat because she'd buy me a fizzy drink at the cafe beforehand (a rare occurance) and maybe get me a book too if I was behaving myself.
The magazine was whatever, the attached Dolls were the shit. As I gathered more and more of them I remember my parents getting mildly concerned at the quantity, especially whent he series moved on from princesses in various dresses and started sending dolls of Mulan's mother and all of the 7 dwarfs. There were 50 by the time the series ended, and I'd been accumulating them for a couple of years. I used to play with them constantly, but unfortunly I wasn't a very careful child and the limbs would regularly fall off, so I would have to contrive a way to either glue them back on or just accept that Prince Charming was now handicapped. Unfortunately poor Cinderella got thrown up on at one point, and her dress was never quite the same. By the time I was 9 or 10, most of the dolls were in a state of disrepair beyond salvage, so my parents convinced me to thin the herd and only keep the ones I really liked. I threw away all the fat ugly ones and the more boring dress variations, as well as any dolls which were really broken, and ended up with 15 dolls. 20-odd years later I have 8.
I looked up how much the dolls would have been worth if I'd kept them all in nice condition and not thrown away the magazines or given the dolls impromptu haircuts. They don't go for much online, even in mint condition (£4 each, £20 for a bundle of 10, £10 for both Mulan dolls etc.), so I presume that a bunch of Disney Adults bought them in the early 00s hoping to make a lot of money down the line and have now realised that they wasted their money. There is someone selling the whole lot of 50 in mint condition with magazines for £500 on ebay, but thus far there are no takers and someone else is selling the same for £143. The thing is that the dolls themselves aren't that nice and Disney has released far higher quality dolls in the years since, so the only reason anyone would buy them is for rarity's sake, but they're not that rare so it's generally a waste of time. They're called Deagostini dolls if anyone's curious. I kinda wish I still had Li Shang, and judgign from the ebay listings I could pick him up in near mint condition for less than a tenner. The listing was sayign that others were selling the dolls for '£59.99', which is a blatant lie. The price you can sell them for now probably is probably about the same if not less than they sold for when new, so the whole thing is just a huge mess. When consooming goes wrong, I guess.
Smartphones are garbage for emulation. They’re not powerful enough to run a Game Boy emulator accurately, let alone something more complex, external controllers and harnesses kill ergonomics and portability, and the battery life is shit. There are also no provisions for tweaking refresh rate, audio latency, and video output, so the input lag is going to be shit.
The best way to play pre-GBC games is via Japanese Super Game Boy 2. A regular Super Game Boy is also fine, but it speeds the game up a bit. BSNES can emulate both. Both Windows and Linux have provisions for getting timing very close to the original. Not sure about Mac.