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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Chunky Salsa said:
I bit the bullet and shaved my head. My lovely hair, down past my shoulders, making all the other physics geeks jealous because they're balding. The heat has defeated me where annoyed looks could not. Sad!
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You should have gelled it into heat sink radiator vanes, like a dimetrodon.
I also like the smell of tobacco, and hate the camel of stale smoke. Weird.
 
Chunky Salsa said:
I bit the bullet and shaved my head. My lovely hair, down past my shoulders, making all the other physics geeks jealous because they're balding. The heat has defeated me where annoyed looks could not. Sad!
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The thing with being bald in summer is that you're prone to getting tan lines on your head if you wear a hat and they're much harder to hide that bikini ones.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
European cigarettes primarily use Virginia tobacco and have fewer additives. American cigarettes are commonly blended. You like European cigarettes more because Virginia tobacco is amazing.
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I’m a Britbong though and our cigarettes just smell of poverty and broken dreams.

In France, Spain, and Italy they smell of fun and, judging by how many people still smoke, do not give you cancer.
 
>Be Bri'ish
>Get roasted to death by mildly warm weather in greater numbers than Americans die from getting shot

Absolute skill issue. Put some ice cubes in your lemonade and chill your beer.
 
Otterly said:
toasted cauliflower is darn good too though.
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How? Every time I try to do anything with cauliflower but boil it all I get is wood. I cannot figure that fart smelling veg out.
Chunky Salsa said:
I bit the bullet and shaved my head. My lovely hair, down past my shoulders, making all the other physics geeks jealous because they're balding. The heat has defeated me where annoyed looks could not. Sad!
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WAHEY! SLAP HEAD! Blinding us over here!
Thomas Talus said:
>Be Bri'ish
>Get roasted to death by mildly warm weather in greater numbers than Americans die from getting shot

Absolute skill issue. Put some ice cubes in your lemonade and chill your beer.
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>Be Fat
>Think we care
>Still fat
>We still don't care.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
How? Every time I try to do anything with cauliflower but boil it all I get is wood. I cannot figure that fart smelling veg out.
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You have to roast it IN something. A white sauce, or brush it with oil and seasoning. Or break it into florets and toss them in olive oil salt and pepper then roast. Don’t overcook it. Bit of cheese grated over it works well too. Love cauliflower, even raw
 
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Not only is it hot as Satan's arsehole but I've been "volunteered" to help with something at the local church so I'm about to get to spend a couple of hours doing hard graft outside. If When I die of heatstroke I want you all to please remember my final words:
They're correctly called ginnels and barmcakes and everyone who voluntarily lives south of Stoke-on-Trent is a filthy Southern poofter
 
Otterly said:
You have to roast it IN something. A white sauce, or brush it with oil and seasoning. Or break it into florets and toss them in olive oil salt and pepper then roast. Don’t overcook it. Bit of cheese grated over it works well too. Love cauliflower, even raw
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I've tried covering them in oil and roasting and got no where. I'm always confused when I watch cooking shows and the veggie option is a 2 inch thick cauli "steak". Cooking it in a white sauce seems like steaming or boiling it to me, does it do something different?

Broccoli is the best IMO. Asparagus is good too. I quite like making green veggie pasta, it's super light and healthy in this weather. If you get some fast cooking pasta or those potato dumpling things you can prep and cook dinner in 10 minutes.

Lets have a fight : Best non-alcoholic drink for this weather?

The correct answer is lemonade, Cheap Barr Lemonade with 2 ice cubes in a glass, made of glass.
 
Heinrich Maneuver said:
The Scottish Greens fella, on a student visa, turns out to be a liar. He is not a working class povo, and actually went to a private school and incredibly 'bougie' university, quelle surprise, and lied about being 'descended from prostitutes' (his parents are literal doctors and engineers). It seems he has a fetish for being a hijra.
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Hey, it's the equivalent of all those children of the upper middle classes who like to LARP as Antifa.

Wonder if the Greens have already spotted the financial benefits of giving children of upper class Indians "MP" positions to give them easy right to remain in the country. Turns out another candidate was told to withdraw because of her student visa so clearly something about "Q" that made them overlook that.
A Scottish Green Party member says she was asked to stand down as a candidate because of her student visa status, despite another candidate in the same situation being allowed to run.
Sai Shraddha Suresh Viswanathan said she was "let down" by the party, alleging that she was asked to withdraw after officials became concerned that she couldn't serve the full term without a new visa.
Another candidate, Q Manivannan, did run despite also being in the UK on a student visa. They were elected as an MSP representing the Edinburgh and Lothians East region.
The Scottish Greens have said that no candidates were blocked due to their visa status.
Viswanathan, who is originally from India and is the current president of the National Union of Students (NUS) in Scotland, applied to be a candidate for the party in the North East of Scotland for the Holyrood election.
She took part in internal elections last year and was ranked third on the party's list. But she said during a phone call with a party official in July last year she was asked to withdraw as a candidate.

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Viswanathan told BBC Scotland News she was advised that the party had legal advice suggesting that she wouldn't be able to take up a position as an MSP, as she couldn't guarantee having the right to stay in Scotland throughout her term.


But it appears that Manivannan was told that they could run as a candidate despite similar visa circumstances.
Viswanathan said she was "thrilled" that so many fellow Greens had been elected, but that having to withdraw had taken "a significant toll on [her] health and well-being."
In a statement she said she had been "let down by the internal selection process of the Scottish Greens Party.
The statement said: "Ultimately, there has been a discrepancy in how different candidates have been advised by the party.
"Immigration is a sensitive subject for many migrants like myself who should be allowed to take part in the election process, as the latest election results have shown us."
The Scottish Greens had one MSP elected in the North East region, meaning Viswanathan wouldn't have been elected.
It is a further internal controversy for the party in the North East of Scotland, where there was infighting around selections.


Changes to the law in 2024 allowed those without a permanent right to stay in the UK to stand in Scottish Parliament elections.
If a candidate was to lose the right to stay in the UK they would be disqualified from continuing as an MSP.
The Scottish Greens have pledged to support newly-elected Manivannan as they now look to apply for a graduate visa to ensure they can stay in Scotland.
A Scottish Green Party spokesperson told BBC Scotland News "Candidates are responsible for ensuring they meet all legal and eligibility requirements before standing for election, including any matters relating to their own visa status.
"We cannot comment on individual candidates or internal selection processes, but we can confirm that nobody has been blocked from standing for the Scottish Greens because of their visa status.
"Overall, the party is satisfied that it has acted appropriately and provided relevant guidance to all candidates, where required.
"The Scottish Greens are proud to see our biggest ever cohort of MSPs elected, who represent a diverse range of communities including New Scots, and we look forward to getting to work delivering the progressive platform on which they were elected."
Overall, the Scottish Greens had 15 MSPs elected to Holyrood.
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Speaking of the Greens they have learned from the Democracts. Their councils plans are to not co-operate with immigration enforcement and push the government to cancel exams amongst other lunacy.
Green-led councils hope to implement “madcap” policies, including cancelling school exams, scrapping Prevent and refusing to co-operate with immigration enforcement.
Three London councils – Hackney, Lewisham and Haringey – said they wanted to lobby the Government on a series of national issues over education, home affairs and counter-terrorism following their win in the local elections on May 7.
The Left-wing party triumphed at the local elections, winning 441 seats and seizing control of five councils for the first time in the party’s history.
But there have been concerns that the Greens would use their new powers to “undermine vital safeguarding measures”.
In Hackney, east London, Green councillors said they would refuse to share data of migrant victims of domestic abuse with immigration enforcement agencies.
Instead, they have advocated a firewall to be established between the police and the Home Office, which could frustrate attempts by the Government to tackle Britain’s illegal immigration crisis.
The recommendation has since been rejected by the Home Office.

The Green Party’s manifesto also includes plans to lobby the Government to axe Prevent, the Government’s deradicalisation programme aimed to stop people from “becoming terrorists and supporting terrorism”.
Alongside this, Green councillors are exploring ways to decriminalise prostitution, deprioritise the policing of cannabis, and lobby the Government to scrap “high-stakes formal testing” in schools such as GCSEs and A-levels.
They also hope to convince the Supreme Court to rewrite the Code of Practice, which would “allow for trans inclusion in single-sex services”, undermining efforts to keep biological men from participating in women’s sports or entering female prisons.
Lord Walney, the former counter-extremism tsar and ex-advisor to Gordon Brown, said: “This catalogue of far Left policies shows that Green councillors will not just neglect local services, they will put communities at greater risk of extremism by seeking to undermine vital safeguarding measures like the Prevent programme.”

A spokesman for the Green Party in Hackney said: “The election made it clear that Hackney residents want change, and we are excited to deliver that.
“The cabinet is in place already, meeting with officers and residents every day, and working to make this happen.”
In Lewisham, priorities for the newly elected Green council include “twinning [the borough] with a Palestinian town”, decolonising public spaces, and establishing a slavery museum to acknowledge the area’s links to the transatlantic slave trade.
They will also refuse to share information with immigration enforcement agencies and will instead “support” those targeted by raids. They provide no additional details.

In Haringey, the council is now being run by a Green minority administration after they won the largest number of seats.
If the Greens are involved in a ruling coalition, their councillors will “remove barriers to access to public services to those in the immigration and asylum system, as much as is legally possible”.
Green leaders also want the council to stop banking with Barclays because they claim it “funds Israel’s genocide in Gaza”.
Existing Green councillors have already demanded that the Labour council stop investing its pension fund in companies they claim are linked to the Israel-Palestine conflict, such as BAE Systems and Palantir.

They also want to convince the Tottenham Hotspur stadium to donate part of its revenue to “community-controlled resources”, but have not clarified whether the football club has said it will support this.
A Haringey Green Party spokesperson said: “We’re thrilled to have so many new Green councillors elected in Haringey.
“We do not have overall control of the council and are currently in discussions regarding any future administration. We’ll work hard to deliver as much of our manifesto as possible.”
In Lambeth, there is also no overall control, but the Greens are again the largest political force.
They hope to “oppose immigration raids” and say “will not cooperate, share intelligence, or grant access to immigration enforcement, beyond the minimum required in law.”
Other Green policies include ensuring Lambeth is not “complicit in the genocide in Gaza”, campaigning to end stop-and-search, and supporting a “public health approach to drugs and knife crime”.
A Lambeth Green Party spokesman said: “Lambeth’s residents decisively voted for change, giving a party other than Labour the most votes for the first time since 1968.”

Sir James Cleverly, the shadow housing secretary, said: “Greens across London have made a whole load of wild and wacky promises.
“Whether it’s giving illegal immigrants a free pass, decriminalising sex work or taking a soft-touch approach to drugs and knife crime, you can rely on the Greens to produce unworkable policies. And at the local level, just like the national level, a current of antisemitism undergirds the party.
“Conservative councillors will hold the Greens to account and stand up for local residents against the Greens’ madcap measures.”
Lord Walney added: “The agenda of the Greens in councils across the country shows they put a conflict thousands of miles away above the concerns of local residents.”
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Kofi Drinka said:
Best non-alcoholic drink for this weather?
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Iced tea. The German stuff with peach flavouring or home made. With home grown mint in.
But if you’ve been gardening hard, orange Robinsons diluted a lot. I get through litres of it in a hot garden day. It was 46c in my greenhouse this afternoon. The plants were screaming with joy. They love it. I swear the cucumbers are humming the Rocky theme tune
There really needs to be a non alcoholic pimms, ‘cos I love pimms but don’t drink. Is there a non booze version?
I dunno what you’re doing wrong with the cauli. Try covering it with foil maybe so it doesn’t dry out? Or cheese.
 
Otterly said:
Iced tea. The German stuff with peach flavouring or home made. With home grown mint in.
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Peach tea is fucking delicious. I drink lots of the Liptons stuff. I have some tea bags to make some but no room in the fridge right now. I need to find a good tea for making iced tea,
Otterly said:
But if you’ve been gardening hard, orange Robinsons diluted a lot. I get through litres of it in a hot garden day. It was 46c in my greenhouse this afternoon. The plants were screaming with joy. They love it. I swear the cucumbers are humming the Rocky theme tune
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Pansy women folk! Wanting their squash diluted. I want it so thick it coats my throat. Weak squash is such an unsatisfying thing to drink. I really like Vinto for how thick it is.

Go on lass, show us your cucumber. WAHEY!! Where's slap head to reflect the sun and burn a hole in it?
 
Kofi Drinka said:
Go on lass, show us your cucumber
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They’re not flowered yet. Once I’ve got a big one ready to harvest I shall post you a picture of my mighty cucumbers. Forgot one last year (it was hidden behind the tomatoes) and it was 40cm long (and inedible) by the time I picked it. Could have beaten a man to death with it it was so big.
 
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