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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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"Now, of course, thats not to say all Muslims or immigrants are this way. Indians have by and large come to this country and been fantastic. The vast majority of Muslims are great people."

People don't want to be in majority muslim areas and he recognises why but then "but also #notallmuslims most are actually totes cool". Like, I am reading from the same response, right?
""Of course countries in Africa and the Middle East have a tonne of conflict, the Brits just drew a bunch of straight lines and forced different ethnic and cultural groups to live together! It would inevitability lead to conflict"" and ""diversity is our strength and peaceful"" also co-exist for these people.
 
Double post. There's something going down in Essex that I can't quite put the pieces together on as they may be separate cases?

Braintree: Man arrested on suspicion of rape

Officers have arrested a man as part of an investigation into a report of rape in Braintree.


We were called to the Mount Road area shortly after 8.50pm on Tuesday 14 April.


The victim, a teenage girl, is being supported.


The man – aged 26 – was arrested on suspicion of rape.


He was subject to two custody extension applications and has now been released on bail with strict conditions.


He is not a resident of the Wethersfield asylum centre.


Through our investigation we have established the arrested man is not a resident at the address where the offence took place and no-one living at the address is involved.


Chief Superintendent Jenny Francis also said:


“Since this report was made, we’ve moved quickly to identify evidence to build a fuller picture of what has happened.


“We’ve taken accounts which has required a careful and sensitive approach given the victim is a teenage girl. Her wellbeing, and the safety of the public, is our priority.


“We must take our time and ensure she and her family know they are supported and their privacy protected.


“It is not lost on me that this incident will cause concern in the community and it is something we have been alive to since our investigation began.


“We want to be transparent as much as we can, but I hope you’ll appreciate there are some details that we are not able to confirm as this is a live investigation.


“One key element we consider with any incident is the risk posed to the wider public.


“Where we believe the risk has been contained, it is sometimes beneficial to carry out investigations away from the public gaze and speculation.


“I want to thank the member of the public who reported this incident to us as well as those people we’ve spoken to around CCTV availability.


“We will continue to work through all the evidence available to us in close liaison with the Crown Prosecution Service.


“We have also liaised with our partners, as we would with any serious incident, to ensure support for our community.”
The MP for Braintree posted this, 1776867619046.png regarding the rape mentioned above.
At the same time, accounts claiming to be from the area are posting that the girl, 14, was raped outside an HMO, AND that two girls aged 17-18 or 17 and 20 were heard screaming inside an HMO or a hotel and were held for four hours, with a video from a doorbell camera showing police in the area. Migrants have also been seen taking photos of girls and women in the area. There are allegations that residents are being told not to talk.
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He is not a resident of the Wethersfield asylum centre.
This and "not a resident of Braintree" are the sort of suspiciously specific denials you'd expect when it's definitely an immigrant. He's probably a family member or close friend of migrants who have recently been moved to an HMO in the town, who was only visiting to join a little rape party.
 
This and "not a resident of Braintree" are the sort of suspiciously specific denials you'd expect when it's definitely an immigrant. He's probably a family member or close friend of migrants who have recently been moved to an HMO in the town, who was only visiting to join a little rape party.
Of course they're not white or British.


They think that telling us they're not living in a migrant hotel is enough to placate people. It's not. We know the truth.

Millions must fucking go. That is the only solution.
 
Apologies for being late, I am American and only loosely follow British politics, but I have been listening to a Landeur video where Nigel Farage insisted that Reform UK is not a pro British party at all, and very proudly insisted that they have a bunch of foreigners running in their party, just to emphasize how little Farage cares about the British people. No wonder Made in Wales ragequit if this is the sort of traitor clown he is throwing his lot in behind as an ostensible patriot.

What really threw me through a loop is this. PLEASE tell me this is fake news and I got misinfo'd. I really do not want to think that Reform UK is actually running a guy named this.

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Apologies for being late, I am American and only loosely follow British politics, but I have been listening to a Landeur video where Nigel Farage insisted that Reform UK is not a pro British party at all, and very proudly insisted that they have a bunch of foreigners running in their party, just to emphasize how little Farage cares about the British people. No wonder Made in Wales ragequit if this is the sort of traitor clown he is throwing his lot in behind as an ostensible patriot.

What really threw me through a loop is this. PLEASE tell me this is fake news and I got misinfo'd. I really do not want to think that Reform UK is actually running a guy named this.

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You are VERY late. Yeah, he's a shyster and shucks and jives for browns. He truly hates us in the way that all liberal politicians do. He once said his proudest achievement was preventing a right wing government ever getting in.
 
You cannot debate away the mould infesting your foundations.
Look all I'm saying is the black mould never tried to deflect. At least when I ask the mould why it appointed a paedophile it doesn't start telling me about how wonderful the weather in Nigeria was last week or whatever the fuck kier does. The mould is closer to being truthful and open than kier is. Mould is like the majority of the natural world, it simply does not have the capacity for malice. Unlike politicians.
 
Pets in a Pickle
O2
We Buy Any Car
On the Beach
Foxy Bingo
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There are others

All of these have radio adverts delivered in a thick Northern accent. I was listening to Heart earlier and there was one ad break where it was basically nothing but "ey up, get more chuffin' data wi' us new plan".

These companies are advertising in Northern because it's perceived as more "trustworthy", but this is only because southerners think that anyone north of Birmingham is - in the words of Stewart Lee - "incapable of guile".

It is racist. It is wrong. It has to stop.
 
These companies are advertising in Northern because it's perceived as more "trustworthy", but this is only because southerners think that anyone north of Birmingham is - in the words of Stewart Lee - "incapable of guile".
This irritates me to no end. There's something awful about companies that advertise to young people always having one white fag and one black 'londoner' in the ads.

The i Paper is alleging that 'Cabinet Ministers' now expect Wes and Ange to move against Kier. Firstly, I doubt it, and secondly, if they are going to fucking move against him, why would you reveal that so early?
Sir Keir Starmer’s own Cabinet ministers have lost confidence in the Prime Minister’s leadership, The i Paper can reveal – as Wes Streeting’s allies suggested they were open to a pact with Angela Rayner to succeed him.

A Cabinet minister told The i Paper that they had lost patience with Starmer but that it was up to the Cabinet as a whole to move to depose him.

“It’s bleak,” they said, reflecting on the PM’s position after another week dominated by the fallout of the appointment of Peter Mandelson as the UK ambassador to Washington. “It’s a question for the Cabinet and colleagues need to come to a view. I know what my view is.”

A spokesperson for Starmer said he is proud of the work being done by his Cabinet and that “nothing will distract the PM from delivering for our country”.

Following days of fresh revelations about the culture in Starmer’s No 10, Labour MPs are frustrated and angry. At Westminster some described how their party is caught in a Groundhog Day. No senior challenger is in a secure enough position to unseat Starmer, but the party is locked in endless circular discussions about whether their leader is up to the job.

That’s led some to call for Health Secretary Wes Streeting and former Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner to form a pact to unite different wings of the party and avoid a bloody leadership contest. That idea is fraught with complexities.

“We can’t go on like this. Wes and Ange have got to come to some accommodation,” a minister said.

Allies of Streeting said he is warmer to the idea than Rayner is. While the pair get on superficially well, they come from different traditions in the party: Streeting on the centrist wing and Rayner the soft left. They also have bad blood after Streeting helped organise moves to deselect former MP Sam Tarry, Rayner’s partner, after a bitter row over the Ilford South seat in 2022. Spokespeople for both MPs declined to comment.

Rayner is currently on the backbenches while she awaits the outcome of an HMRC investigation into whether she paid the correct amount of stamp duty on her £800,000 seafront apartment in Hove. Even so, some Labour MPs see her as the frontrunner to succeed Starmer. On Tuesday evening, in her latest intervention, she called for “bold” action from the premier to tackle cost of living pressures.

There are obvious drawbacks to any suggestion of a deal between the pair. “I just don’t see how it works. Question One is ‘Who is first on the ticket?’ never mind the next 35 questions that follow,” a Government source said. “Could Ange even be touted as Chancellor? The bond markets would go nuts.”

Several Labour MPs talked up the prospect of Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper taking over from Starmer, perhaps in a temporary capacity. In a sign some MPs were letting their imaginations run ahead of them, one suggested a three-way pact between Rayner, Streeting and Cooper. “In that scenario you have Yvette as leader, a steady pair of hands. You give Ange foreign secretary and make Wes Chancellor. That way you have Brownite, soft left and Blairite all together,” they suggested.

Starmer is becoming increasingly isolated as Cabinet ministers publicly distanced themselves from the Prime Minister after he faced claims of bullying officials into approving Mandelson’s appointment. On Tuesday, in a high-stakes appearance before the Foreign Affairs Committee, sacked mandarin Sir Oliver Robbins, the former permanent secretary at the Foreign Office, accused Downing Street of exerting “constant pressure” on officials and taking a “dismissive approach” to security checks on Mandelson.

In another bombshell, Robbins also revealed No 10 had attempted to find an ambassador’s job for Starmer’s political spin doctor Matthew Doyle behind the back of David Lammy, the then foreign secretary. Starmer did not deny it when pressed at Prime Minister’s Questions, saying there had been discussions “but nothing came of this.”

Pat McFadden, the normally loyal work and pensions secretary, repeatedly declined to say he believed Starmer’s decision to sack Robbins was reasonable. Asked on Times Radio on Wednesday morning if the sacking felt fair, McFadden said he thought “very highly” of Robbins but added: “I think if the Prime Minister’s made the judgment that he’s not got confidence in the head of the Foreign Office, the head of the foreign service, then it’s difficult to continue.”

Asked again if it was fair, McFadden said: “Look, it’s the Prime Minister’s judgment.” Asked a third time, McFadden said: “As a Cabinet member, I support the Prime Minister’s decisions

By afternoon McFadden had issued a fresh statement. “I think that MPs should support the Prime Minister.

“He’s been in office less than two years. He led the Labour Party to a very big election victory just under two years ago, and I think we’ve had far too many changes to prime minister in the UK in the last decade. It hasn’t done the country much good,” he said.

Cooper said the alleged failure to inform Lammy of plans to make Doyle an ambassador was “extremely concerning.” Her remarks followed Ed Miliband, the energy secretary, who said on Tuesday he had concerns at the time that Mandelson’s appointment would “blow up” and disclosed that Lammy had concerns about Starmer’s decision too.

Starmer was widely credited for distancing the UK from the US-Israeli war on Iran. But he has since faced criticism both for sacking Robbins and for reminding Labour MPs of his lack of judgment in appointing Mandelson in the first place.
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We are back to where we were three months ago; people are now saying he’s got to go after May [local election results]. Only recently they were saying he could last longer after that strong showing on Iran but after this week that’s evaporated again. We are going round in circles,” a minister told The i Paper.

A second minister disagreed Starmer would go so soon. “We’re in a holding pattern until the end of the calendar year. One of the major movers needs to make a move and they aren’t in a position to. A random backbencher tweeting they’re gonna walk to prompt a challenge when they’re drunk doesn’t cut it,” they said.

Even so, public criticism of the Prime Minister was beginning to surface from hitherto loyal MPs.

Polly Billington, the vice chairwoman of the parliamentary Labour Party and a former special advisor to Miliband, refused to say that she trusts Starmer’s judgment.

Speaking on the BBC’s World At One, the MP for East Thanet was repeatedly pressed on the issue but declined to address it directly. When asked whether Starmer is up to the job and whether he has the judgment required to carry on, the Labour MP replied: “What I am focused on is that we are clear we have a mandate from the British people in order to be able to deliver the change they wanted.”

Jonathan Brash, Labour MP for Hartlepool also told GB News “It’s got to the point now where I genuinely think that, you know, as far as the Prime Minister’s concerned, it’s not a case of if, it’s when.”

“I don’t think anyone reasonably expects the Prime Minister to lead the party into the next election,” Brash added.

At Prime Minister’s Questions, frontbench Conservatives waved and mouthed “bye-bye” at Starmer. Meanwhile, Labour MPs were mostly withdrawn during exchanges with Tory Leader Kemi Badenoch.
Badenoch told Starmer Labour backbenchers know it is “not fair” that Robbins was sacked and asked the Prime Minister to “take responsibility and go”. In reply, Starmer repeated that he was not informed about the Foreign Office going against the vetting service’s recommendations – which he calls a “very serious error of judgement”.

Allies of the Prime Minister are looking towards the end of the Parliamentary term, expected to be April 28, when MPs will dissipate to their constituencies to campaign in local elections. But there are hurdles to jump first. On Thursday Cat Little, permanent secretary at the Cabinet Office will be questioned by the Foreign Affairs Committee. Next Tuesday, Morgan McSweeney, Starmer’s former chief aide – who quit over his role pushing for Mandelson’s appointment – will also face the same MPs.

And on Wednesday, there were also Labour calls not to rock the boat. “I think it would be folly when we’ve got what’s happening in terms of geopolitics,” London Mayor Sadiq Khan told Bloomberg News when asked whether he thought the Labour party, of which he is a member, would replace Starmer by the end of the year.

A No10 spokesperson said: “Nothing will distract the PM from delivering for our country. He is proud of the work being done by his Cabinet including NHS waiting lists coming down, the biggest upgrade workers’ rights in a generation, and lifting half a million children out of poverty. That’s the difference a Labour Government makes.”
 
can you blame them for not integrating?
Yes, their precursors did. I know you're parodying what the redditors say but it pisses me off when people claim "London was always diverse" when until fairly recently people made an effort to fit in and learn about the culture, with their kids basically being like us - but you get invited to a slightly different religious ceremony with different outfits, but you still go down the pub after their version of a wedding or christening and discuss the thing you all watched on telly recently - compared to what's happening now.
The Bengalis around Brick Lane used to be an expat (from Bengal) enclave, who were in general friendly and would talk to you in a relatable way. Now they stare at you. I stare back. And a lot of the time, if you hear their accents, they're 3rd or 4th generation and barely speak Bengali but dress in Kurtas all the time.
I do still find it funny this is just down from the mosque
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"ey up, get more chuffin' data wi' us new plan"
This sort of cultural appropriation is exactly why I refuse to pay the tv license. The reason why people trust norfners is because in general they tend to be nicer and more hospitable than saavners. For them to come and appropriate my culture and traditions undermines that entire concept. We are more trustworthy because we are not southerners, a company doesn't magically become trustworthy because they had Baz from the pub doing the voiceover. It's like getting a nice old white woman to do your biscuit adverts, doesn't matter if they're still made in a shithole in india where the only handwashing comes out a cow's pussy.
 
Yes, their precursors did. I know you're parodying what the redditors say but it pisses me off when people claim "London was always diverse" when until fairly recently people made an effort to fit in and learn about the culture, with their kids basically being like us - but you get invited to a slightly different religious ceremony with different outfits, but you still go down the pub after their version of a wedding or christening and discuss the thing you all watched on telly recently - compared to what's happening now.
To defend those who do so that's because numerous political parties decided that a winning strategy with those groups was to make it a requirement that the country needed to adapt to them. As such the motivation to actually change their ways went out the window and instead child rape, treating women as property and handing your voting papers to the local imam to fill in before you submitted them became acceptable behaviour. As long as it was kept in group or to those member of society belonging to the social class all of our major political parties want the majority of the country in.

The right solution for this is for voters repelled by that sort of behaviour to not give their votes to parties supporting that. Even if it means you have to give your votes to those you find pathetic as long as they are not outright damaging. Because that, "it's racist to expect them to not adhere to their home country's standards" attitude is not merely damaging but destructive.
 
It is racist. It is wrong. It has to stop.
can it wait until I've finished fleecing a few more londoners?
isn't it ?
In'tit. Say it right.
Firstly, I doubt it, and secondly, if they are going to fucking move against him, why would you reveal that so early?

It's because of how the Labour party leadership electoral system works. The whole system is set up to give the incumbent warning of a potential challenger, so he can either negotiate a compromise, find some way to prevent them running, or just toss them out of the party as a last resort. Anyone who wants to mount a leadership challenge has to be nominated by a combination of union reps, PLP members, and local party organisations, which means they have to start informally canvassing for support before they can announce a candidacy. It's usually done with a little more discretion, but if someone wants to speed up the process they can just openly declare interest and see who comes running. This is Streeting and Rayner sounding out potential support from the unions. Mad Ed is also openly touting as well, though more quietly.
 
Apologies for being late, I am American and only loosely follow British politics, but I have been listening to a Landeur video where Nigel Farage insisted that Reform UK is not a pro British party at all, and very proudly insisted that they have a bunch of foreigners running in their party, just to emphasize how little Farage cares about the British people. No wonder Made in Wales ragequit if this is the sort of traitor clown he is throwing his lot in behind as an ostensible patriot.

What really threw me through a loop is this. PLEASE tell me this is fake news and I got misinfo'd. I really do not want to think that Reform UK is actually running a guy named this.

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This is not at all fake, Nigel is indeed filling his "based" & "not right wing" party full of jeets.

In all seriousness though the fact they were never really a true right wing party was never something they kept secret, it's just more apparent as of late saar.
 

High Street mini-marts selling cocaine, cannabis and prescription drugs, BBC secret filming reveals​


Cocaine, cannabis, laughing gas and prescription pills are being offered for sale in mini-marts on UK High Streets, a BBC investigation can reveal.

They were readily offered to our undercover researchers who secretly filmed in shops across four neighbouring West Midlands towns.

One street we visited was described as "lawless" by an anonymous law enforcement source.


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UK and France strike new £662m small boats deal​


Riot-trained police will be sent to beaches in France as part of a new £662m deal with the UK to stop illegal migrants from crossing the English Channel.

Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood is expected to sign the three-year agreement with France on Thursday, which will see at least 50 police officers, each trained in "riot and crowd control tactics", drafted in to tackle violence and "hostile crowds".


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This sort of cultural appropriation is exactly why I refuse to pay the tv license. The reason why people trust norfners is because in general they tend to be nicer and more hospitable than saavners. For them to come and appropriate my culture and traditions undermines that entire concept. We are more trustworthy because we are not southerners, a company doesn't magically become trustworthy because they had Baz from the pub doing the voiceover. It's like getting a nice old white woman to do your biscuit adverts, doesn't matter if they're still made in a shithole in india where the only handwashing comes out a cow's pussy.
Northerners aren't nicer or more hospitable, they're just chattier. To the point it's annoying if you're trying to get across Leeds without someone trying to strike up a conversation with you.
The "Northern accents are trustworthy thing" is basically veiled classism. Upper/middle class accents are overt prestige but can be perceived as elitist/exclusionary. A working class accent is covert prestige, and posh Northerners often don't tend to sound as Northern. Working class South East accents suffer from leftover Cockney stereotyping of too-clever-by-half, quick talking, trying to pull a fast one (same sort of thing as Scouse, which is never used in these "Northerners are trustworthy" examples). Something like West Country is assumed to be a friendly country bumpkin, so the trustworthiness is somewhat irrelevant. But the North, particularly Yorkshire? Generally seen as frank, honest and brash. "Tha’ll nivver get owt but t’truth off me, ah’m nobbut straight wi folk. not one fer soft-soapin, wha tha sees is wha tha gets."
Or in other words, the media classes assume someone with a strong Northern accent is too unsophisticated and thick to be scheming, and will blurt out whatever they're thinking. Same thing with the Scots (besides Glaswegians). It's not necessarily that much of a compliment.
 
Cocaine, cannabis, laughing gas and prescription pills are being offered for sale in mini-marts on UK High Streets, a BBC investigation can reveal.

Every person selling this will be an immigrant, or a child of immigrants, and every one of them should be deported but won't be.
 
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