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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[No-Eyed Square Guy]

Restore is an actual British ethno-nationalist party

It's a "Thatcherite" (though it seems very American to me) party that might throw some Indian scooter drivers off benefits—on condition that natives also receive no benefits, ever, forever, for anything, under any circumstance, because the budget.

They specifically, pointedly, repeatedly—with as near as a Briton can come to sexual relish—promise "pain" to the natives. Why would freeing your nation of the burden of millions of foreigners require that? Isn't it the Fix Everything Button? Why does pushing it hurt you? Why do they want it to?

Restore is greatly superior to all other extant parties, but they're still enemies of the people.

 

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They’ll just claim ‘ackshually, it never happened, and you’re a bigot for thinking of the ‘migrant hotel’ nearby, bigot’.

Like this one:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly622k0jm4o

A bit of pig jannying later:

https://www.thisisoxfordshire.co.uk/news/25513266.banbury-no-evidence-gang-rape-shocked-nation/

False claims/nutters making shit up does occur and I’m sure journalist scum in all forms are trying to jump on the latest ‘breaking’ thing for clicks even at the earliest stage, but knowing what we know about the length they’ll go to sweep up the carnage of these vermin in the name of so-called ‘social cohesion’, it makes you wonder where the truth is.

Well, I called it…

“No evidence Epsom rape took place as reported, say police”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyxp4q5k93o

“Police investigating the rape of a woman by several men outside a church in Epsom say they have "not found any evidence of the offence as reported"”

So what do we think, are they lying and sweeping this much for whoever did it? Or is it a drunken/schizo/whatever local who has chosen one of the hot button issues of the moment to make a false claim of? Or somewhere in between?

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

“No evidence Epsom rape took place as reported, say police”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyxp4q5k93o
“Police investigating the rape of a woman by several men outside a church in Epsom say they have "not found any evidence of the offence as reported"”

What an incredibly specific denial.

https://archive.ph/YTtMF

Assistant Chief Constable for Local Policing Sarah Grahame said there was "no evidence that asylum seekers or immigrants were involved"

So they know the rapists were neither asylum seekers nor immigrants but cannot release a description. Oh sorry, "there's no evidence."

I'm being reminded of the Southport twat again.

 

[BongoMongo]

Well, I called it…

“No evidence Epsom rape took place as reported, say police”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyxp4q5k93o

“Police investigating the rape of a woman by several men outside a church in Epsom say they have "not found any evidence of the offence as reported"”

So what do we think, are they lying and sweeping this much for whoever did it? Or is it a drunken/schizo/whatever local who has chosen one of the hot button issues of the moment to make a false claim of? Or somewhere in between?

As much as I hate non white people, if this is false rape accusation then the woman responsible needs to be named,and prosecuted to the full (albeit pathetic) extent of the law.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I think we should kill a bunch of darkies anyway, for good fortune.

 

[Breadbassket]

Briton confronts Brown man destroying a old stone wall in the British countryside somewhere.

1:31

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Briton confronts Brown man destroying a old stone wall in the British countryside somewhere.

Remember being a kid and everyone would tell you if you fucked around on a farmer's land that he would just instantly shoot you dead the second he saw you?

 

[GratsTheat783]

Restore is greatly superior to all other extant parties, but they're still enemies of the people.

It's right to be sceptical, especially of politicians, but don't think Restore and Rupert Lowe have a boner for hurting natives. I think they say that line because fixing the country is going to be rough work, entire departments scrapped or re-organized, laws completely rewritten or ripped out and a lot of changes in day-to-day and business life that'd take some time of adjusting to.

EDIT: I also think they stress that line to avoid building unrealistic expectations; wouldn't be good if they got in with everyone having the impression that every problem would be immediately solved day 1.

 

[Betonhaus]

 

[the rat]

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At least bother to post the 2013 article
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...t-nearly-everything-survey-shows-8697821.html (archive, archive 2)

Spoiler: Local Archive

British public wrong about nearly everything, survey shows​

Research shows public opinion often deviates from facts on key social issues including crime, benefit fraud and immigration​

Jonathan Paige Tuesday 09 July 2013 15:16 BST

A new survey for the Royal Statistical Society and King's College London shows public opinion is repeatedly off the mark on issues including crime, benefit fraud and immigration.

The research, carried out by Ipsos Mori from a phone survey of 1,015 people aged 16 to 75, lists ten misconceptions held by the British public. Among the biggest misconceptions are:

- Benefit fraud: the public think that £24 of every £100 of benefits is fraudulently claimed. Official estimates are that just 70 pence in every £100 is fraudulent - so the public conception is out by a factor of 34.

- Immigration: some 31 per cent of the population is thought to consist of recent immigrants, when the figure is actually 13 per cent. Even including illegal immigrants, the figure is only about 15 per cent. On the issue of ethnicity, black and Asian people are thought to make up 30 per cent of the population, when the figure is closer to 11 per cent.

- Crime: some 58 per cent of people do not believe crime is falling, when the Crime Survey for England and Wales shows that incidents of crime were 19 per cent lower in 2012 than in 2006/07 and 53 per cent lower than in 1995. Some 51 per cent think violent crime is rising, when it has fallen from almost 2.5 million incidents in 2006/07 to under 2 million in 2012.

- Teen pregnancy is thought to be 25 times higher than the official estimates: 15 per cent of of girls under 16 are thought to become pregnant every year, when official figures say the amount is closer to 0.6 per cent.


Among the other surprising figures are that 26 per cent of people think foreign aid is in the top three items the Government spends money on (it actually makes up just 1.1 per cent of expenditure), and that 29 per cent of people think more is spent on Jobseekers' Allowance than pensions.

In fact we spend 15 times more on pensions - £4.9 billion on JSA vs £74.2 billion on pensions.

Hetan Shah, executive director of the Royal Statistical Society, said: "Our data poses real challenges for policymakers. How can you develop good policy when public perceptions can be so out of kilter with the evidence?

"We need to see three things happen. First, politicians need to be better at talking about the real state of affairs of the country, rather than spinning the numbers. Secondly, the media has to try and genuinely illuminate issues, rather than use statistics to sensationalise.

"And finally we need better teaching of statistical literacy in schools, so that people get more comfortable in understanding evidence."

Bobby Duffy, the managing director of Ipsos Mori Social Research Institute, said: "A lack of trust in government information is also very evident in other questions in the survey - so 'myth-busting' is likely to prove a challenge on many of these issues. But it is still useful to understand where people get their facts most wrong."

I think we should kill a bunch of darkies anyway, for good fortune.

You ought to make a new business that sells "English Fortune Cookies" under the pseudonym: "Darwick Wavis".

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

They specifically, pointedly, repeatedly—with as near as a Briton can come to sexual relish—promise "pain" to the natives. Why would freeing your nation of the burden of millions of foreigners require that? Isn't it the Fix Everything Button? Why does pushing it hurt you? Why do they want it to?

I think you're the one with issues.

Have you ever done any hard work in your life? Hard work can be quite painful. But the result is good. Calling that "sexual" is the sign of a lazy deviant.

 

[BongoMongo]

Remember being a kid and everyone would tell you if you fucked around on a farmer's land that he would just instantly shoot you dead the second he saw you?

No, we got told we'd be fed to the pigs. I got a smack from our mam for once telling her, no, it's arable farm.

 

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It's right to be sceptical, especially of politicians, but don't think Restore and Rupert Lowe have a boner for hurting natives. I think they say that line because fixing the country is going to be rough work, entire departments scrapped or re-organized, laws completely rewritten or ripped out and a lot of changes in day-to-day and business life that'd take some time of adjusting to.

EDIT: I also think they stress that line to avoid building unrealistic expectations; wouldn't be good if they got in with everyone having the impression that every problem would be immediately solved day 1.

Hopefully they’re just referring to the fact that things like Uber, Just Eat and next day delivery services will take a hit.

You won’t be able to shop around four or five places in less than a mile when buying a vape either.

 

[Sheep King]

They specifically, pointedly, repeatedly—with as near as a Briton can come to sexual relish—promise "pain" to the natives. Why would freeing your nation of the burden of millions of foreigners require that? Isn't it the Fix Everything Button? Why does pushing it hurt you? Why do they want it to?

Course correction hurts. TPTB have repeatedly avoided pain in favour of slow death while they bleed the country dry. Making houses affordable hurts boomers who have invested into them their whole lives, so no party that depends on their vote will promise it. Gutting the NHS will hurt. Burning every captured civil servant to death will hurt. An end to cheap labour will hurt. Lowe has to repeatedly promise pain because at this point it's just about the only way to show he understands the issues and to distinguish himself from the uniparty too entrenched in the rot to do anything but spout platitudes and blame eachother.
I think we're past the point where Trump or Farage can bluster about "winning" and still get shit done; someone has to reintroduce the electorate to the idea of immediate pain for long term recovery.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

I'm beginning to think that someone, somewhere, has a sex tape of Keir and the Ukrainian boys or Lord Alli or Mandelson or some other civil servant. Keirs stubborn autism aside, fear of Labour exploding aside, there has got to be some truly horrific shit for this fuckwit to act the way he does. The Epstein-Mandelson conspiracy to pick the Labour MPs for election only add more fuel to this theory for me

So what do we think, are they lying and sweeping this much for whoever did it?

I'm going with sweep. They covered up the rapes in Rotherham because the coppers were related to the rapists, if not in on the rape; if this was a ploy for attention we'd know the victims name and she'd be everywhere. The focus on 'they aren't immigrants or asylum seekers checkmate racists' makes me think they are ''British '''Nationals''''''
EDIT: if the attackers were white, we'd have a description. That filthy white gay who was touching kids had his photo in the papers minutes after he was arrested, same with the Chinese nursery toucher. Any sexual assault reports need to have a full description out to the local community as soon as possible to ensure it can be properly investigated.

 

[teriyakiburns]

It's right to be sceptical, especially of politicians, but don't think Restore and Rupert Lowe have a boner for hurting natives. I think they say that line because fixing the country is going to be rough work, entire departments scrapped or re-organized, laws completely rewritten or ripped out and a lot of changes in day-to-day and business life that'd take some time of adjusting to.

EDIT: I also think they stress that line to avoid building unrealistic expectations; wouldn't be good if they got in with everyone having the impression that every problem would be immediately solved day 1.

It wouldn't be the first time we've been promised suffering in the pursuit of a better tomorrow. It's basic leadership psychology to tell people up front that the path will be hard, because it achieves two things: it filters out mere hangers-on, so that you only have those at least initially willing to endure discomfort to achieve the goal, and it creates a sense of shared identity through acceptance of a common premise.

 

[khaine]

The BBC really hate reform, judging by the "jokes" on have I got news for you. I mean the labour party is an absolute joke and yet they still try and mock reform. Seriously? Reform are surging because Labour and Tories are shit. Yet they mock reform? Yeah, good luck getting the tv licence in the future

EDIT: Also Michelle Wolf is terrible, why do you keep having her on shows?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Saw a bit of a human interest story on the BBC news website: The home cooks reviving forgotten British dishes you've probably never heard of. I thought it might be an interesting read, as the BBC often does interesting stories about food, which seems to be the only cultural thing they're allowed to praise any more. Unfortunately, this was not one of those times. The only thing I hadn't heard of on the short list of things mentioned is sussex pond pudding (which, to be fair, sounds delicious).

And then we get this:



They just cannot go five minutes without trying to attribute some piece of English culture to fucking foreigners. Oatcakes (real oatcakes, not the scottish abominations) didn't just emerge fully-formed at the start of the 17th century; that's just when recipes were written down. They're probably about five minutes younger than the invention of the frying pan.

 

[khaine]

Saw a bit of a human interest story on the BBC news website: The home cooks reviving forgotten British dishes you've probably never heard of. I thought it might be an interesting read, as the BBC often does interesting stories about food, which seems to be the only cultural thing they're allowed to praise any more. Unfortunately, this was not one of those times. The only thing I hadn't heard of on the short list of things mentioned is sussex pond pudding (which, to be fair, sounds delicious).

And then we get this:

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They just cannot go five minutes without trying to attribute some piece of English culture to fucking foreigners. Oatcakes (real oatcakes, not the scottish abominations) didn't just emerge fully-formed at the start of the 17th century; that's just when recipes were written down. They're probably about five minutes younger than the invention of the frying pan.

There are stories about Alfred the great burning oatcakes FFS. I hate the BBC and all those who demand false representation

 

[Rome's rightful successor]