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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Oh really?

Does anyone believe this?

1) No.

2) Assuming the story is true, the ministerial code obliges ministers to correct the record in the House of Commons at the first opportunity. Starmer claims he was told on Tuesday evening, which means he should have told the Commons on Wednesday. As he didn't, he broke the code, which would normally be a resigning matter.
 
Starmer claims he was told on Tuesday evening, which means he should have told the Commons on Wednesday. As he didn't, he broke the code, which would normally be a resigning matter.
Paints his spat with Hoyle in a new light doesn't it?

Starmer knew what was going to come out and the Speaker is reminding him he has to answer questions during PMQs. Hoyle is also the one who recently shopped Mandelson for plans to flee the country.
 
We need a Paxman style grilling of Starmer.

"Were you aware that they overruled them?"

"I already told you, due process was followed in the appointment"

"With respect, you still haven't answered my question, which was whether you were aware that they overruled them"

Etc etc ad nauseum
 
We need a Paxman style grilling of Starmer.

"Were you aware that they overruled them?"

"I already told you, due process was followed in the appointment"

"With respect, you still haven't answered my question, which was whether you were aware that they overruled them"

Etc etc ad nauseum
I still think we need some form of 'leg breaker' clause where if you refuse to answer the fucking question, or go back on campaign promises, a large man employed by the state breaks one of your legs with a massive hammer. We completely lack stakes foe being in government and it's one of the root causes of how fucked everything is. There needs to be blood paid, swiftly and viciously, if you refuse to act as a proper leader.
 
Women near me are arranging a walking group after 3 of them have been chased by a paki through the park.. 3 days in a row here's been trying ti rape someone there
Have the ladies thought about arming themselves with a cup of seed oil with about five lemons squeezed in and about a small container of cayenne pepper in like a coffee cup?

It's not a weapon per se but is enough to temporarily blind the paki so he can be beaten with canes.
 
We need to means test all none-contribution based benefits (im looking at you pip) and start paying them mostly, or even entirely, in vouchers.
People should just not be eligible for any state benefits - including NHS healthcare - without being able to demonstrate at least ten years of tax and national insurance contributions. Children can use their parents’.

If you cannot demonstrate this, you do not get any unemployment benefit of any kind, and you must take out private health insurance or are billed for NHS care.

It’s so blindingly obvious a solution I’m amazed it hasn’t even been whispered.

In other news, this story continues to be an absolute farce, and now the local female clergy wades in with a laughable appeal to emotion: “only love can drive out hate of gang rape, let’s love gang rapers… or something… I felt intimidated by the ‘hate’ of gang rapers and lying, traitorous police…”

 
Have the ladies thought about arming themselves with a cup of seed oil with about five lemons squeezed in and about a small container of cayenne pepper in like a coffee cup?

It's not a weapon per se but is enough to temporarily blind the paki so he can be beaten with canes.
Self defence for women that isn't like...an actual handgun, or some sort of pistol crossbow and a dart of Novichock is not a good move. Literally just invest in cardio as much as you can. Or a really big dog.
 
That and then doing really sketchy deals with taxi companies to get kids to school,
The taxis are used for kids with disabilities, which is predominantly the Pakistani kids and theta I companies are predominantly Pakistani owned. It’s another huge grift putting public money into private hands. Just like when government chums got millions in PPE contrast during Covid. The offense of siphoning public money into cronies hands should be punishable by death
As an example, Farage is on record as defining a Welshman as 'anyone who has lived in Wales for 5 years' (a definition which would include the Southport animal and its parents).
What….? I’m Welsh now??
We need a Paxman style grilling of Starmer.

"Were you aware that they overruled them?"

"I already told you, due process was followed in the appointment"

"With respect, you still haven't answered my question, which was whether you were aware that they overruled them"

Etc etc ad nauseum
Paxo in his heyday was formidable and we need that sort of thing back. Make them sweat. Cut through the weasel words.
And still, no journalist is looking at how and why the Southport stabbers parents came here from Rwanda.
 
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Turns out if you rank GB compared to different states the results aren't as positive as one would think for the uk
HDI and GDP measurements have killed the perception of so many countries and regions. even if this is true, no one is poking at MS, AL, etc for their considerably lower living standards. south east is england is such an insidious fucking entity. it makes me want to download a minecraft map of westminster for no reason in particular.
 
In other news, this story continues to be an absolute farce, and now the local female clergy wades in with a laughable appeal to emotion: “only love can drive out hate of gang rape, let’s love gang rapers… or something… I felt intimidated by the ‘hate’ of gang rapers and lying, traitorous police…”
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The context to that is on Wednesday there was a protest demanding a description of the gang of rapists which the police still refuse to give. So naturally the riot police were deployed
Protests that followed a rape of a woman by several men have led to a warning from Surrey Police that the force "will not tolerate disorder".
The woman in her 20s was followed after leaving Labyrinth Epsom nightclub and attacked outside Epsom Methodist Church in the early hours of Saturday.
Protesters took to the streets on Wednesday evening demanding descriptions of the suspects, after police said they did not have "sufficient information" to give descriptions, and riot police were deployed.
Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner Lisa Townsend said that police were leaving "no stone unturned" and that she was satisfied the investigation was "thorough and diligent".
The force has urged people not to speculate about the identity of the suspects, stating: "This may lead to additional tensions within our local communities."

Dozens of police officers were deployed to a protest in Epsom High Street on Wednesday night, with photos appearing to show people throwing objects at them.
Protesters blocked the road, causing disruption to motorists, officers said.


Protest organisers, Billy Cooper and Pete, who did not give his surname, have since held a meeting with Surrey Police.
Cooper said that they were "reassured" but not "satisfied" with the information provided.
Ch Supt Mark Chapman said: "We respect the right to lawful protest and will facilitate this wherever possible where it is safe to do so.
"However, criminal offences and public disorder will not be tolerated, and we will always take robust action against anyone who commits a criminal offence."
Chapman added that the "significant police presence" had been to "support the group's right to lawful protest and minimise disruption".
He said that the priority was to ensure the safety of the wider public, as well as the safety of those involved in the protest.

Townsend said that she had been receiving updates from senior officers since the weekend and police teams were carrying out extensive inquiries.

"Any report of this nature is understandably concerning and I fully appreciate in circumstances like this that the local community are keen to have as much information as possible, but that must of course always be balanced with ensuring the integrity of the investigation," she said.

'Social media speculation'​

Downing Street said the prime minister's thoughts were with the victim.
A spokesperson for Sir Keir Starmer said that the police investigation was live and operational decisions were for police to make.
"That includes decisions on what information should or shouldn't be disclosed," they said.
Asked whether Sir Keir would appeal for calm, his spokesperson pointed to a police statement saying it respected the right to lawful protest, but criminal offences and public disorder would not be tolerated.
Townsend added that there had been "unhelpful speculation" on social media about why descriptions had not been released.
She reiterated the force's statement that despite extensive inquiries, police did not at this stage have sufficient information to release descriptions.


The force has stepped up patrols in the area and there will also be an increased police presence over the weekend.

Reverend Catherine Hutton said that an event was held for people to express feelings
Epsom Methodist Church was holding a "community act" on Thursday, aiming to "raise our voices for women who are vulnerable and all who are victimised".
The Reverend Catherine Hutton said that the event would be an outlet for people to express any "feelings of compassion and outrage in a meaningful and positive way".
She said: "Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that, and that is why we are having an act of hope for the community, so we can stand together and declare we are good people."
Meanwhile, Epsom MP Helen Maguire said the protest had been hijacked by "right-wing online activists" who wanted to "fan the flames of divisiveness".
Jackie King, chief executive of Epsom & Ewell Borough Council, said that the authority was working with police and other agencies to tackle violence against women and girls.
"Our work in this area will not be finished until every woman and girl in Epsom and Ewell is safe," she said.

She added that she understood some people would feel "concerned, unsettled and angry", but it was important to come together as a community and avoid speculation or the spread of unverified information.

Epsom MP Helen Maguire said that the protest had been hijacked by "right-wing online activists"
Epsom resident Mark Laxton, who protested on Wednesday, said: "All people want is answers because no-one is safe any more."
He added: "There was me and around 200 to 300 other people. It was all set up online.
"No woman is safe and women should be. You hardly see police walking the streets and that's what frustrates people. Hopefully we will have made them think."
Subhir Singh, owner of Epsom Dry Cleaners, closed his shop before the demo.
He said: "They first started shouting at the police and then some people started throwing eggs at them."
Madhur Gupta, who works at Epsom Food and Wine in Epsom High Street, said that police instructed the shop to close at about 17:30 BST, adding: "I think all the shops closed after the protest started."

Officers are still appealing for witnesses, particularly anyone who saw a woman in distress in the area of Ashley Road between 02:00 and 04:00 on Saturday.

Why the Fuck am I here trying to cram in a quick read of the Farms whilst speed-eating breakfast before starting work in a few minutes from 7am to 5pm and living in worse conditions than these people?
Because someone's got to pay for that.
 
What….? I’m Welsh now??
But were you made in wales :christine:

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Yvette Cooper was reportedly unaware that Peter Mandelson failed vetting until the story broke at 3pm yesterday. It means that despite Keir Starmer ordering an investigation into what the Foreign Office knew on Tuesday night, Cooper (in charge btw) was not told.
THEN, the Independent Pol Editor David Maddox, published messages showing No 10 was told last September that Peter Mandelson 'may have' failed security vetting. This was also published around 6 months ago by Maddox, confirming No 10 knew. Basically, Keir knew but he let his fuck buddy Mandy in
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