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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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you can only domesticate the common nigger, they will never integrate well into society.
White saviour mentality is killing us. These countries wanted freedom, and they got it. Let them sort their own shit out.


Rambling thoughts incoming inspired by the words of that black guy interviewed about racism.

I don't think the root of racism is skin colour. It's culture. I genuinely believe that if someone "fits in" with what we consider normal, British culture it doesn't matter to people what colour they are. It's how they act. It's how they sound.

And that's why the recent mass immigration has been an issue. Them being brown is one thing, but it's not that they're brown. It's that they behave differently.

And when you see white youths aping their culture - be that the weird Muslim converts, or lads acting like roadmen and putting on that accent, they're equally distasteful to most people despite them being lilly white.

When you have a drip feed of immigration they can truly integrate and actually become an asset. Do I think the UK would be better off if we never had Frank Bruno, Trevor Phillips or the guy that played Johnson in Peep Show? Of course not.

But when you have hordes of people with their own cultures creating ghettos and attempting to impose their way of life on everyone else - in many cases with the full support of the state - then it becomes the problem we see. Resentment sets in.

There's that old trope about a racist saying "but not you, you're one of the good ones". What he really means is: you behave as I expect. You fit in. You're not spending all day drinking coffee and leering at girls, or trying to con me, or shuffling around in a dress while your wife walks ten steps behind, or fucking your cousin and expecting everyone else to pay for your retarded kids.

Anyway I'm not saying anything new just wanted to share my tuppence.
Thanks for the optimistic reality check and slice of, I dunno, optimism,maybe? Not sure what I'd call it, but I appreciate it.

Very easy to lose sight of that in Norf FC at times because of muslims doing exactly what you described there. There's no good ones about.

Friend of mine from Halifax has just sold their house and is moving away from the area. They got a tip off from a friend with connection to the planning department that multiple hotels being used to house boat vermin will be closing for that use and that there was interest in some houses near there for being turned into HMOs to put them in.

I'm honestly considering writing to my MP and telling them I want to know what they have to say about the BBC article and investigation. It'll be whatever they're told to say by the whip though, so what's the point?
 
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There's a segment from the BBC going semi viral after a reporter approaches a black man outside a Swindon spoons to ask his opinion on the election
I think this is worth locally hosting because... it's literally "muslamic raygunnah" guy but bLACK, this is are kultah being appropriated here!
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"one unhapy voter there" *smirks*, you really don't hate them enough.
Should not the bigger scandal be why are gays higher up the asylum pecking order than straights?
Is it because they are in higher danger in their home countries?
If so, why are we allowing homophobes to come to the British pedophIsles?
The reverse-course on gender ideology brings these types of questions back into respectable territory, and more people need to be asking them in public.
 
Honestly I love that he's got his second Guinness lined up there and he's doing a spot of day drinking.

Why should someone on benefits get that much for doing absolutely nothing? The system is absolutely backwards. Support people looking for work and genuinely out on their luck by ensuring workers aren't left in desperate grinding "how am I going to eat, much less get to job interviews" poverty, giving short term support to get into a job, rather than telling them "hey make yourself as useless as possible and we'll give you all this extra money". It's not fucking rocket science.
 
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The triARYANgle is a badge of honour actualley :smug:
But yes, some certainly earn it more than others :bogged:
Honestly I love that he's got his second Guinness lined up there and he's doing a spot of day drinking.
It really is OUR CULTURE, unironically quintessential, if they were all like that there wouldn't be any need for racism.
 
We need to means test all none-contribution based benefits (im looking at you pip) and start paying them mostly, or even entirely, in vouchers.

There's no reason why there couldn't be an apple/Google pay style system that restricts how and where their benefits are spent.

The usual arguments against this are bullshit about dignity. Pretending handouts are a salary aren't the way anybody should be seeking self respect. Nobody should die for want of a job, but we shouldn't pretend they aren't getting something for nothing either.
 
start paying them mostly, or even entirely, in vouchers.
I don't give a toss about dole dosser dignity (what an oxymoron that is), my objections are entirely material: All any sort of voucher/credit/monopoly money system does is create an additional level of bureaucratic overhead whilst also creating a grey market for fakemoney swapsies, which inevitably creates additional overhead to deal with. The only actual benefit (ha) being that it soothes taxpayer's feelings, I don't care about feelings, if it must be done then just do with it real money and you'll save more money.
 
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We need to means test all none-contribution based benefits (im looking at you pip) and start paying them mostly, or even entirely, in vouchers.

There's no reason why there couldn't be an apple/Google pay style system that restricts how and where their benefits are spent.

The usual arguments against this are bullshit about dignity. Pretending handouts are a salary aren't the way anybody should be seeking self respect. Nobody should die for want of a job, but we shouldn't pretend they aren't getting something for nothing either.
The vast majority of cases don't even need means-testing, anyone who signed on for anxiety, depression, adhd, just strike the cunts off and send their lazy arses to work. Almost half of all people claiming in the UK do so for "mental health issues" when in reality, they're just lay-about, worthless cunts who are bankrupting the entire country along with the boomers who are withdrawing literally 3x what they paid into the system. Give them community service orders, but instead of it being a punishment, they do it in exchange for bags of rice and bottles of vitamins so they don't starve to death. They'll quickly realise that getting an actual job is suddenly a Hell of a lot easier than being a professional mooching cunt their entire life.

My attitude towards the "muh dignity" faggots is that if you act like an undignified piece of shit by being a parasite on the public, you deserve what you put in: Fuck all.
 
I don't give a toss about dole dosser dignity (what an oxymoron that is), my objections are entirely material: All any sort of voucher/credit/monopoly money system does is create an additional level of bureaucratic overhead whilst also creating a grey market for fakemoney swapsies, which inevitably creates additional overhead to deal with. The only actual benefit being that it soothes taxpayer's feelings, I don't care about feelings, if it must be done then just do with it real money and you'll save more money.
I agree there will always be people trying to turn their benefitbux into real cash, but I think the technology is there to restrict how widespread that is and take action when discovered. Anything that makes a life on benefits a less attractive lifestyle option (which it definitely is seen as by many claimants), and pushes them into work, is a good thing.
 
We need to means test all none-contribution based benefits (im looking at you pip) and start paying them mostly, or even entirely, in vouchers.

There's no reason why there couldn't be an apple/Google pay style system that restricts how and where their benefits are spent.

The usual arguments against this are bullshit about dignity. Pretending handouts are a salary aren't the way anybody should be seeking self respect. Nobody should die for want of a job, but we shouldn't pretend they aren't getting something for nothing either.
Honestly the amount of help in terms of vouchers you get if you're out of work and looking, is really generous. So long as you can prove to your job centre advisor you're genuinely looking for work, in my experience, they'll move heaven and earth to help you.
 
It happened again, must not've stuck properly the first time.
Damn they're fast to get their angle out, so many of them too!
>(((Community Security Trust)))
>(((Jewish Leadership Council)))
>(((Holocaust Educational Trust)))
HMMMMMMM:thinking:
Or might this be the mythical Iranian terror cells finally making a showing?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew77rwrevdo/https://archive.is/Hvrz0
Police are appealing for witnesses following an attempted arson attack on Finchley Reform Synagogue this morning

Two suspects are being sought after an attempted arson attack at a synagogue in north London in which two bottles thought to contain petrol were hurled at the building.

The attack on the Finchley Reform Synagogue is being treated as an antisemitic hate crime, according to police.

The Met said the suspects, wearing balaclavas, approached the building at about 01:00 BST and threw a brick and two bottles. No damage or injuries were caused.

Last month, four ambulances belonging to a Jewish community charity were set alight in an arson attack - counter terrorism police are involved with both investigations.

A brick and two bottles, thought to contain petrol were thrown at the building. Neither ignited.
Finchley Reform Synagogue Cantor Zoë Jacobs said the synagogue was a "proud, progressive and welcoming space for all".

"This is clearly an attempt to intimidate the British Jewish community," she said. "We will continue to prioritise building bridges across the wider Barnet community and will not be deterred by these cowardly acts.

"As always, our community is being incredibly well supported by the police, the government, CST and all of our key partners."

Sarah Sackman, the Labour MP for Finchley and Golders Green, said: "This shocking attempt to harm a local synagogue follows a series of alarming attacks on the Jewish community in Finchley and Golders Green."

She added that she "refuses to allow this to become the new normal".

"British Jews must be free to go about their lives without fear - whether taking their children to nursery or attending synagogue. We do not want to live behind ever higher walls," she said.

Posting on X, Mayor of London Sir Sadiq Khan said he was "grateful" for the police's response to the attempted attack.

"While thankfully no one was injured, the Met are urging anyone with information to come forward."

The Community Security Trust (CST), a charity which provides security and monitors antisemitism in the UK, said it was "supporting the affected location and are working closely with the police".

The Jewish Leadership Council, which represents Jewish organisations in the UK, said it was "horrified" by the incident.

The Holocaust Educational Trust said the attempted attack was part of "a broader pattern of rising antisemitism, which must be confronted with urgency".

'Significant concern'​

Det Ch Supt Luke Williams said the Met was "aware of the significant concern" the incident will cause in the community, particularly in the wake of the arson attack in Golders Green last month.

He added: "We are working with the affected synagogue and continuing to meet with community leaders.

"I would like to reassure the community that we take incidents of this nature extremely seriously and detectives are working urgently to identify the suspects.

"If you have any CCTV, dash cam footage or information that could help officers please contact the police."
 
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Or might this be the mythical Iranian terror cells finally making a showing?
It's a brisk 10 minute walk from a shia mosque on high road. I can almost guarantee it's them, but it'll be used as an excuse to crack down on "the far right" anyway.
 
It's a brisk 10 minute walk from a shia mosque on high road. I can almost guarantee it's them, but it'll be used as an excuse to crack down on "the far right" anyway.
MoundDweller can rate me optimistic again but as the orcs begin to attack those of a certain tax bracket, questioning immigration will become more kosher. Mahmood has just announced an ""investigation"" into the BBC's findings that they are fake gay. Perhaps they will send Keir into the refugee camps to play chicken
 
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Asda testing locking up stuff people steal
Asda is drawing up proposals to put perfume and batteries into vending machines to stop criminals stealing them from shelves as Britain grapples with a shoplifting epidemic.
The supermarket is holding talks about installing vending machines across its stores for products that are regularly targeted by criminals.
This includes potentially placing batteries, razor blades and perfumes into these machines, taking them off the shelves so that customers would have to pay before accessing them. These items tend to be at higher risk of being stolen as they are easier for criminal gangs to sell on the black market.
The discussions follow a trial of a vending machine in an Asda store in Ashton-under-Lyne, Greater Manchester, where it uses the technology to sell vapes and cigarettes.
The system involves customers choosing what they want on a screen and receiving a ticket that they take to tills to pay for. They then receive a second ticket which they can take to a vending machine that dispenses the product they want.
Speaking to staff at a meeting late last month, Asda bosses said they were looking at options for vending machines for “high-theft items”.
No decisions have been made yet on which items would be included in vending machines and a rollout is not believed to be imminent.
Supermarkets are racing to find ways to stop criminals from targeting their stores without putting staff at risk.
Marks & Spencer last weekend warned that crime was getting worse rather than better.
Writing in The Telegraph, Thinus Keeve, the company’s retail chief, said attacks were becoming “more brazen, more organised and more aggressive” across Britain’s high streets.
He said recent incidents included gangs forcing open locked cabinets and stripping shelves, as well as staff being headbutted and having ammonia thrown in their face.
The latest crime report compiled by the British Retail Consortium (BRC) found that there were 5.5 million recorded shoplifting incidents last year, costing retailers nearly £400m. However, the BRC said the total number of incidents was likely to be higher as supermarkets were not always recording or aware of attacks.
M&S executives recently wrote to both the Mayor of London and the Home Secretary to demand they do more to tackle shoplifting and crime.
Mobs of youths have ran riot in Clapham, south London, over the past month, targeting an M&S store and lighting fires.
Supermarkets have spent more than £5bn in the last five years to improve security measures, investing in more CCTV and security staff at doorways.
However, retailers are becoming increasingly concerned about staff getting involved to prevent attacks.
It emerged last week that Waitrose had dismissed an employee after he attempted to stop a shoplifter stealing a bag of Easter eggs. Waitrose said at the time that the “correct process is being followed, which includes a standard appeals procedure”.
Other British supermarkets have also trialled vending-machine technology to address the issue, including Morrisons and Sainsbury’s.
It is more widely used across the rest of Europe – particularly in Norway and Sweden – to stock products including medication and phone cards.
A spokesman for Asda said: “We continually explore new ideas which may help to improve our customers’ and colleagues’ experiences whilst in our stores. However, there are no immediate plans to install new vending machines for any products in our stores whilst a trial in our Ashton store is ongoing.”
BBC keep going with the fake asylum seekers stuff. Shame they'll never go the extra step to NGOs and charities involved.
From fake news websites to staged political protests and bogus medical conditions, asylum seekers and the advisers helping them are using an array of fabricated evidence to bolster their fake claims.

It all amounts to a sham industry, which includes charging migrants for advice on how to pose as gay to claim asylum, as exposed by the first part of our undercover investigation into the immigration system.

Other techniques include paying to write articles in atheist magazines and hiring someone to pretend to be a same-sex partner.

At an office off the busy Mile End Road, in east London, on a Tuesday evening in early April, our undercover reporter was receiving an instruction course in how to apply for asylum.

Posing as a Bangladeshi student who had just dropped out of his university course, he had said he was looking at asylum as a way to stay in the country.

Now Zahid Hasan Akhand, who introduced himself as a barrister, was talking him through the different options and how to dupe the Home Office.

Gay, atheist or political activist​

There were three routes to asylum for someone in his situation: as someone who faced persecution for their sexual orientation, their religious beliefs or their political views.

Akhand said he would handle the legal side, but it was up to the undercover reporter to choose whether he wanted to pretend to be gay, an atheist or a political activist.

All of the options would take work. For a legal fee of £1,500, Akhand would help him in "preparing your application, preparing you for the interview, taking repeated mock interviews".

But the reporter would also need to create evidence in order to convince the Home Office that he was not faking his claim.

Akhand said he knew people who could help with that and would introduce him "if you cannot find any other way".

It would cost between £2,000 and £3,000 and the type of evidence needed would depend on which path he chose.

If the reporter wanted to declare himself an atheist, the process would start with making posts on social media insulting Islam or the Prophet Muhammad.

"Religious clerics will start making comments threatening to kill you. Then you will see that your evidence has been created," Akhand said.

He would be introduced by the lawyer to atheist organisations in the UK and in Bangladesh that ran online blogs or magazines where, for a fee, he could make posts, again lending credibility to his claims. He suggested the reporter could use AI tools, such as ChatGPT, to write blog or article posts.

He would also need to attend events organised by groups for former Muslims and speak out during them because "this is not the age of posts anymore, it is the age of live videos".

Akhand suggested a possible story to tell the Home Office.

"You would say that you became an atheist after coming here. You were not one in Bangladesh," he said.

He later suggested "you could have written under a pseudonym if you were in Bangladesh".

Akhand said there is "no way to know who is an atheist and who is not…You just told me that you are not an atheist, which means you are not an atheist. But there is no system to check these things."



The political route was difficult, Akhand said, requiring a legal case to be made against the applicant in their home country.

Much easier, he said, was pretending to be gay "because they will not dig too much into your past story".

"For gay cases, it's private, but politics and atheism are public," he said.

"So establishing that is a bit difficult."

He said he could "connect you with people we know who do these things".

For a fake gay claim, "the kind of evidence they provide includes membership in different clubs, taking you to different clubs, since in the asylum interview you will be asked which clubs you attend and similar questions. You will also be given a partner, and that partner will provide a letter saying that 'yes, he was my partner'.

"If you go to those associations, you will not get caught out. Most of the people there are not gay," Akhand said.

The reporter asked if he had dealt with similar cases before "where you know that he is not gay or not atheist, but later the case was successful?"

"Everyone is being successful, God willing," Akhand responded. "If you listen and get the evidence arranged properly, it will be successful."

He told him to "first decide whether you will do it on atheism grounds or on gay grounds…then I will draw you a full outline".

Akhand qualified as a barrister in 2022 but does not hold a licence to practise, meaning he is what is known as a non-practising or unregistered barrister.

It is illegal for someone in that position to refer to themselves as a barrister in connection to legal services.

Akhand describes himself on LinkedIn as working at a law firm, Lextel Solicitors, and appeared on the company's website at the time of the meeting. The website has now been taken down.

Lextel said Akhand was not an employee and that he had stopped working for the firm around two years ago, but they had left him on their website because he had not given any "formal notice to quit".

They said they had no record of the meeting taking place in their office and said Akhand was associated with other businesses in the same building.

Akhand denied "knowing and deliberately behaving in a way that is illegal or dishonest". He said the meeting was only introductory, the journalist wasn't a client and he didn't believe he had given regulated immigration advice.

He also said that he hadn't said that he was a "practising" barrister and that his professional affiliation with Lextel Solicitors had "ceased a long time ago".

Fake websites​

Akhand is far from the only adviser out there who is willing to help bring fake claims.

We've uncovered a string of fake asylum applications that were brought with the help of a different Bangladeshi lawyer between 2018 and 2021. Some, and seemingly many, of these claims succeeded.

The claims were generally made on the basis that the applicants were both atheists and also gay or bisexual.

The evidence submitted by the applicants includes online articles posted on what purported to be genuine news websites.

In fact, internet records show the network of websites were set up by someone connected to the group.

Some of the articles refer to the applicants supposedly having been named in lawsuits filed in the courts in Bangladesh because of their political or religious activism.

There are no other references to these lawsuits on genuine websites and lawsuits are hard to trace if any Home Office officials wanted to check because the Bangladesh courts used a primarily paper-based record system.

Other claimants are named in news articles on the connected websites that describe how they have married a gay partner and this has provoked homophobic criticism or abuse from unnamed third parties.

The websites appear to have been created for the purpose of publicising the alleged threats to the asylum applicants and many were set up by a caseworker at an east London law firm.

Other than a small number of articles naming specific asylum applicants, the websites are largely filled with plagiarised articles that have been copied from major news wires and genuine Bangladeshi media outlets.

One of the websites lists an "editor-in-chief" who has no other online footprint such as a LinkedIn profile or social media accounts.

Political protests​

Several of the asylum applicants also cited as evidence posts they had written for a Bangladeshi gay rights website which was only active for a few years during the applications and which has since been taken offline.

Other fake claims are alleged to have used photos from political protests staged purely to have photographs taken of those taking part, which could then be submitted to the Home Office.

We heard from several asylum seekers who said they'd been encouraged by advisers they were paying to bring their claim to visit a GP and pretend they were depressed. They could then use their medical records as evidence to help their fake asylum claim. One even pretended to be living with HIV.

As well as helping create evidence, advisers also promise to train fake claimants on how to behave during crucial interviews with the Home Office, where their applications are assessed.

One adviser told our undercover reporter they would issue a sample questionnaire to show recent questions that other applicants had been asked in order to help them prepare.

During an event in Rochdale, one asylum seeker told an undercover reporter that his solicitor had even coached him on his facial expressions and reaction in front of Home Office officials.

"She told me to cry," he said. "I replied, 'I can't cry'. I told her 'I'm not capable of overacting'."
 
Are the Garbageham bin strikes still going?
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Yes. And it turns out Birmingham council are lying. They're having to pinch pennies because of the eye watering cost of switching to Oracle for HR,which is the underlying cause of all this.

Plenty of videos on You Tube about this. I spat tea when I watched one,it's tens of millions of pounds. That and then doing really sketchy deals with taxi companies to get kids to school,would explain why they've got no fucking cash.
 
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