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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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One issue that's compounding the rape problem
You can judge people for being exhibitionist whores all you like, and the feminists may well be stupid slags and all that, but they're right in that the only thing that causes rape are rapists. They shouldn't be afraid of flashing me just because rapehammed might get the wrong idea, blaming the victim is a logical fallacy simple as.
 
Cornichon shortage leaves British sandwich shops in a pickle
Aside from the Guardian did the story make it to any other non-regional news? Because I'm being reminded of the Weatherspoons having contaminated steak supplies on steak night story.
 
Apparently from a previous newspaper report from labour sources and just recently on today's election debate. Reform is claiming that Anas Sarwar approached them to work together against the SNP. :story:

Considering all the stupid shit he has come up with just to seem smart or "in touch". I 100% believe this
 
You can judge people for being exhibitionist whores all you like, and the feminists may well be stupid slags and all that, but they're right in that the only thing that causes rape are rapists. They shouldn't be afraid of flashing me just because rapehammed might get the wrong idea, blaming the victim is a logical fallacy simple as.
Very autistic ‘denial of reality’ response.

Yes, rape only happens because of the rapist, we do also live in a world of complex interconnecting systems, and that woman wearing an underwear set and angel wings staggering alone near the kebab shop or twenty four hour off license at three in the morning is far more likely to come to harm than the woman that simply ISN’T doing that.

Choices. Awareness. Personal responsibility.

Your government has betrayed you by importing millions of criminal third worlders, as well as the raping natives that were already here (the ones you see all over the news, unlike the former) - you can choose to use that knowledge to keep yourself safe or go ‘wElLll AckShUallLlyyyy I SHOULD bEee ABleeE tO Do Whhaa I Likee sHoUlddn’T Iii’.
 
Very autistic ‘denial of reality’ response.

Yes, rape only happens because of the rapist, we do also live in a world of complex interconnecting systems though, and that woman wearing an underwear set and angel wings staggering alone near the kebab shop or twenty four hour off license at three in the morning is far more likely to come to harm than the woman that simply ISN’T doing that.

Choices. Personal responsibility. Your government has betrayed you by importing millions of criminal third worlders, as well as the raping natives that were already here (the ones you see all over the news, unlike the former) - you can choose to use that knowledge to keep yourself safe or go ‘wElLll AckShUallLlyyyy I SHOULD bEee ABleeE tO Do Whhaa I Likee sHoUlddn’T Iii’
It's called "point of failure" acktuelly :smug: Specifically in that if the system, such as it is, has such a point then that is what the problem is and deserves to have sole focus upon, anything else is just a distraction. My point here being: nobody has a personal responsibly when it comes to failure of others (outside of disciplined service scenarios of course), the slags are not the problem the brown people are.
Yes, this is retarded lobert style thinking, but I don't care because it is morally correct regardless.
 
every tribal society
But are we tribal humans? Are we actually the same species? And if we are then are we the same species as muslims? The big thing is just that it's not some reproductive or conquering thing because abortions exist and no one wants to carry some paki rape baby. It's not a military plundering thing because they haven't won anything and they aren't fucking off. It's not 'im going to rape your women and steal everything and fuck off' because that requires them to leave. Even then. I still cannot understand that mindset.
how d’you think they reacted towards them upon first seeing or meeting one?
From what I've seen with an intense sexual desire. Admittedly I'm not an expert but from what I know about that sort of stuff it would be holding them up as a higher sexual being. Wanting to fuck them more but not instantly forcing yourself on them. Maybe sexually assertive or harassing but I don't remember reading about sailors going off to rape.
watch this
I don't I will ever understand the brain of people like this. The only thing I'm understanding more and more is that yea no maybe we are a different species to them. Every video explaining a conceptual thing to come out of africa has just been like these people's brains work in such a different way to literally anyone I have ever met that I refuse to believe we are the same.

Modern humans are built on a desire not to hurt other humans. We are designed to be outwardly empathetic and caring. That the entire time that modern humans have existed have been in social groups larger than our families in which we look after others even to our own detriment and for sometimes no benefit at all, certainly no immediate benefit. That is how we evolved. That is what we are on the most fundamental level. To go against that for because of a lack of cock impulse control is to be so troglodytic as to no longer be human. Even murder. Humans are genetically hard coded to be avoidant of murder. We are literally wired to not hurt a defenceless person, normally that is in a violent context so that if you beat the shit out of someone and they're on the ground crying then you subconsciously will leave them alone. But pakis no they'll kick the shit out of someone in a mob even when they are clearly no longer a threat. The same desire to not hurt people in general should prevent them from raping people. For reference we are so adverse to killing that it was a problem from the start of musket era line infantry through to ww2. We are so adverse to killing and harm that the people who were literally professional killers had a hard time doing it, the only reason it wasn't an issue before then is because it was hand to hand combat where the other person did pose an immediate mortal threat to you.

It's the same as the shit with inbreeding. We are hard coded to not want to fuck our first cousin. We are hard coded to not want to see our child suffer and will avoid doing things if we understand them to cause suffering. Yet they fucking do it anyway. When it's a one off or a niche you can look at it and say yea those people are just fucked up in the head. But when it's such a high prevalence and the mindset is entirely different idk I have no choice but to look at them and conclude that they are literally not human. Not in a cutesy eww that guy's subhuman I would never be like him but in a literal 'you belong to an entirely different species of human' way. Something something neanderthal something serious genetic and ancestral differences and so on. Orcas are proposed to have three different species, all of them are entirely visually and biologically identical, the only difference is their behaviours and social interactions. We have proof that not only do we have different behaviours and social interactions but the entire brain and way of thinking and any form of intelligence is simply different.
 
I can understand that yea for some creature that has never seen a woman before and has no impulse control or anything like that.
here's an example of the things "we've" been importing

hypersexualised amorphous sluts distinct from your own kind
that your religion says it's ok to abuse
 
Is the reform party actually making any headway over there? And if they succeeded would they actually improve anything, or would it be the same old shit but different color of paint?
They're polling well, but the Greens are close.
I despise Farage, but unlike the Greens, he isn't an existential threat to the nation.
The craziest thing is that some people in the Western world will watch clips like this...and still disagree with capital punishment.
The only consequences they thought about were material, zero theory of mind or empathy for the victim.
That's South Africa right? I'd be a miracle if the victim escaped getting an HIV infection.
Now if you’d never before had any interaction with coconut bra/grass skirt women, they were alien to you, you only had a vague concept of them as beings, and yet you’d drooled and gooned to and consumed endless porn of them for years leading up to that so you saw them as just these hypersexualised amorphous sluts distinct from your own kind… that’s what we have going on here.
Don't blame porn.
Some Weebs consume tonnes of hentai and fantastical Japanese porn, but almost none end up raping Japanese girls.
 
It's called "point of failure" acktuelly :smug: Specifically in that if the system, such as it is, has such a point then that is what the problem is and deserves to have sole focus upon, anything else is just a distraction. My point here being: nobody has a personal responsibly when it comes to failure of others (outside of disciplined service scenarios of course), the slags are not the problem the brown people are.
Yes, this is retarded lobert style thinking, but I don't care because it is morally correct regardless.
Right, well the ‘point of failure’ (millions of brown rapists) is not resolved and doesn’t look like it will be, so why would you not change your behaviour in light of that information?

If a ‘point of failure’ in a staircase was a few stairs missing leading to a chasm beneath, you’d presumably stop trying to step on those missing stairs because they’re a point of failure in need of address, the same applies to swarming foreign rapists.

Don't blame porn.
Some Weebs consume tonnes of hentai and fantastical Japanese porn, but almost none end up raping Japanese girls.
How many weebs are there in Calais?

Are you aware of Japans immigration laws, even visitation rules?

This is such a false equivalence, it’s crazy.
 
so why would you not change your behaviour in light of that information?
If you change your behaviour and expectations to include what a horde of foreign rapists are going to do then you accept you will never get rid of them. If you allow that to become normal then there will be no incentive to fix it. Should I just fucking roll over and put on a burka because well it'll make them happy?

This is the same logic that retards were banging on about during covid because they wanted a minimum wage increase without realising inflation will just follow.
 
But energy drinks are always going to be there.
Back when I was at school they tried to ban energy drinks in the hopes that people would drink the healthier drinks from the school vending machine instead. Except one of those drinks was Rubicon which came in an opaque bottle. So all that happened was kids would buy a bottle of Rubicon from the vending machine, drink/pour out the juice then keep the empty bottle and fill it with energy drinks.


You've gotta have some combination of salami sticks/crisps grab-bag (god I miss those)/random bags of nuts for the GROWING BONES too.
Don’t forget the froobs and cheesestrings!
 
Niggers don't know how to handle consequences because living in African is consequence free. They don't need to do agriculture because they can grow stuff year round. There's no winter and no starving to death if you fuck up.

I mean this in the most bullshit-free possible way: they never evolved to understand long term thinking or consequences and their brains,being smaller and less developed mean they can't get it.

If there's anyone out there who still thinks these creatures are the same as us, you are wrong. Genetics and science literally proves this.

Black people are not human in the same way we are, ditto Arabs, moreso muslims.



Edited for clarity: I am not advocating behaving like them,to them,how they do to us. We need radically shift how we view immigration anywhere where their citizens are so different to us.

Bringing them here is a disservice in the same way it is to raise a dog in a swimming pool. You are taking something out of it's natural habitat and this is cruel and you are doing it because dem white saviour feels be so damn good.

They are evolved to live and thrive in the countries they are from and shipping them here is the height of cruelty to all concerned.
 
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Niggers don't know how to handle consequences because living in African is consequence free. They don't need to do agriculture because they can grow stuff year round. There's no winter and no starving to death if you fuck up.

I mean this in the most bullshit-free possible way: they never evolved to understand long term thinking or consequences and their brains,being smaller and less developed mean they can't get it.
you can only domesticate the common nigger, they will never integrate well into society.
 
It's not just blacks and browns who rape people. There is a reason why looking like a slag is looked down upon and people rightfully tell you it leads to bad outcomes. Even before the invasion of foreigners people knew to take care of themselves instead of showing everyone you're a dumb drunk slut.

Sorry if there are consequences to flashing your cunt at people then blacking out in the street. The world is not a nice place, it has evil people in it. If you bait those people by engaging their dicks while making yourself an easy target you deserve to get raped. And the sooner women wake up to this fact the safer they will be. Stop making excuses because you want to get black out drunk every weekend and act like a retard with no consequences.
 
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here's an example of the things "we've" been importing
OK, but what was the goat wearing?

I need to know before I can properly form my opinion.
 
OK, but what was the goat wearing?
The drunken slag flashed its cunt in the street before blacking out in the street. Shouldn't have baited Ahmed by engaging his dick while making itself an easy target. It deserved to get raped. The sooner goats wake up to this fact the safer they will be.
 
The idea of reducing calorie intake being healthier is just fucking retarded
Kids need calorie dense food. They have smaller stomachs and need what they eat to be nutritious.
The other side is that the fat little fucks do next to nothing physically now.
One of mine has a watch thing that has a pedometer on. Sometimes I check it for a laugh. It’s usually something like 22,000 steps by 3pm. We walk to school and back and they’re active, although I don’t think as active as we were as kids - we had free rein to roam anywhere and did. Kids generally though, I don’t think are active enough. There should be far less being stuck behind a desk and far more playground and sport time.
Chris Walker, Bond Turner solicitor representing the families, is prepared to name and shame workers unless disciplinary measures are taken. He also blames Axel's parents and the 'merry go round' of referrals and blaming autism. Emphasis mine.
You know what would have prevented it entirely? His parents never having been allowed in the country. I still want to know why they are here and I think that’s a story that will be very interesting. They fled Rwanda well after it was safe again.
Yea but if I went to the carribean and saw some woman in a coconut bra and frond skirt I wouldn't instantly start trying to squeeze at them for a tit milk pina colada.
This is exactly the difference. Western dude sees hot Hawaiian girl in coconut bra, drools appreciatively, perhaps flirts. To simply rape her is something extreme that only a tiny minority would do and his peers will punish him for it. The majority would think she’s hot, they would probably want to get her into bed, and understand that if he wants to get her in bed he must have her permission. The entire cultural setup is that woman do not exist to be raped.
To see women as a thing to be raped, in groups as well is completely alien to the western psyche. Our leaders have imported what is essentially a bioweapon.
 

Legal advisers help migrants pose as gay to get asylum, undercover BBC investigation finds​

Billy Kenber, Politics investigations correspondent and Phil Kemp, Politics reporter
A shadow industry of law firms and advisers is charging thousands of pounds to help migrants pretend to be gay in order to stay in the UK, the BBC has found.

In the first part of a major undercover investigation, we reveal how migrants whose visas are due to run out are being given fake cover stories and instructed in how to obtain fabricated evidence, including supporting letters, photographs and medical reports.

They then apply for asylum claiming to be gay and in fear for their lives if they return to Pakistan or Bangladesh.

In response to our findings, the Home Office said: "Anyone found trying to exploit the system will face the full force of the law, including removal from the UK."
The UK's asylum process offers protection to people who can't return to their home countries because they would be in danger, for example in countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh where gay sex is illegal.

But the BBC News investigation reveals the process is being systematically exploited by legal advisers extracting fees from migrants who want to stay in the country.

These are often people whose student, work or tourist visas have expired, rather than those who have just arrived in the country on small boats or through other illegal routes.

This group now makes up 35% of all asylum claims, which topped 100,000 in 2025.
After gathering initial evidence, including tip-offs, we sent undercover reporters to investigate how willing immigration advisers were to help people make up false asylum claims.

The reporters posed as international students from Pakistan and Bangladesh whose visas were due to expire.

The investigation discovered:

  • One law firm charged up to £7,000 to bring a fabricated asylum claim and promised that the chance of refusal by the Home Office was "very low"
  • Fake asylum seekers visited GPs pretending to be depressed in order to get medical evidence to bolster their cases, with one even lying about being HIV positive
  • One immigration adviser boasted that she had spent more than 17 years helping bring fake claims and said she could arrange for someone to pretend they'd had a gay sexual relationship with a client
  • Our undercover reporter was even told he could bring his wife over from Pakistan once he had got asylum in the UK and she could then make a fake claim pretending to be a lesbian
  • A lawyer linked to another firm told an undercover reporter he had helped people pretend to be gay or atheists to successfully obtain asylum. He offered to help with a fake claim for a fee of £1,500 and said it would cost a further £2,000-£3,000 to create evidence

'Nobody is gay here'​

On a Tuesday evening at a community centre in a quiet corner of Beckton, east London, more than 175 people have gathered for an event.

Some have travelled from as far as South Wales, Birmingham and Oxford to attend a meeting organised by Worcester LGBT, which describes itself as a support group for gay and lesbian asylum seekers.
he group's website says that only genuine gay asylum seekers are welcome.

But the men spilling out from the centre's doors onto the pavement outside readily admit to our undercover reporter that all is not as it seems.

"Most of the people here are not gays," one man called Fahar says.

Another, who gives the name Zeeshan, goes further.

"Nobody is a gay here. Not even 1% are gay. Not even 0.01% are gay."
Our undercover reporter's journey to the group's meeting began in late February when he approached Mazedul Hasan Shakil, a paralegal at Law & Justice Solicitors, an immigration law firm based in Birmingham and London.

As well as his legal work, Shakil is also the founder and chairman of Worcester LGBT. Until recently, he used the community group's website to advertise his legal work.

During a brief phone call, Shakil told the undercover reporter he had to be fearing persecution to claim asylum and did not appear to have any grounds to do so.

But within a few hours, out of the blue, the reporter took a phone call from someone introducing herself as Tanisa.

With the conversation having now switched to Urdu, she appeared much more enthusiastic about helping our reporter stay in the country, discussing how he could apply for asylum on the grounds that he's gay.

When he told her that he wasn't gay, she told him: "Listen to me. There is nobody who is real. There is only one way out in order to live here now and that is the very method everyone is adopting."

She would not be drawn on who had passed her his number, but we were able to match her WhatsApp profile picture and first name to Tanisa Khan, who works as an adviser to Worcester LGBT.

'A comprehensive package'​

That evening the undercover reporter travelled to Forest Gate, in east London, for an initial consultation with Tanisa.

The first meeting took place not at the law firm offices she would later use, but at her own home. He was invited inside and taken upstairs to a bedroom.

"At the moment there is only one route from where you can get a visa and it is open," Tanisa explained, perched on the edge of the bed.

"It is the asylum visa...it is on human rights and it is called gay case or same sex. There is no hope for any other visa."

Tanisa stressed that what she was proposing would take work - as the reporter would have to memorise a made-up story for his interview with the Home Office.

"You are the one who has to go and take the exam. I am here to prepare everything for you but ultimately it is you who has to go there," she told him.

What followed over the course of 45 minutes in Tanisa's bedroom was an insight into how sophisticated the deception involved in some fake asylum claims can be - and therefore how difficult it can be for officials to spot it.
Asylum seekers are subject to an initial screening interview with the Home Office and then an exhaustive "substantive interview" lasting several hours, during which their claims are probed.

Home Office decisions to reject an asylum applicant can be challenged, and potentially overturned, in the courts.

"There is no check-up to find out if the person is a gay," Tanisa told our undercover reporter.

"The main thing is what you say. You just have to tell them that 'I am a gay and it is my reality'.

"There are a lot of organisations here where there are people like you who are not gay but are applying for the visa. You are not alone," she reassured him.

She went on to explain how the deception would work.

"The approach we will take is this: I will fully prepare you for the interview by compiling a comprehensive package for you, including photographs of you at clubs, various other pieces of supporting evidence, an organisational letter, and additional letters of support, so that you are completely ready when I send you in."

Tanisa, who said she had spent more than 17 years helping bring fake claims, explained that photographs taken of our reporter at LGBT events and the tickets he would buy for them would serve as evidence as part of his application.

"I will give you a letter from someone along with which we will take a few photographs and that person will write that they have engaged in physical sex with you," she added.

Tanisa's service came at a price - £2,500 - with a warning that the cost would go up in the unlikely event that our reporter's claim was refused by the Home Office and it went to appeal through the courts.

A successful application would be worth the work involved, she explained.

"You can live here and work and you are also eligible to claim benefits."

But if his asylum claim was successful, what would that mean for his wife back in Pakistan, our reporter asked, if he had already told the Home Office he was gay?

"If you call her here, then we will apply for her asylum as well," Tanisa replied.

"Once she's here, we can make her a lesbian."

Providing evidence​

Tanisa is not a regulated immigration adviser and as a result it is illegal for her to offer immigration advice.

She remained cagey about her connection to the paralegal we had called that morning, stating only that she worked with him.

"Lawyers and the like are supposed to show you the way. However, the actual fieldwork is something they do not handle," she explained, seemingly referring to the work of fabricating evidence.

"We handle the fieldwork."

But her links with Shakil became clearer during two subsequent meetings, both of which took place at the Ilford offices of Law & Justice, the law firm where Shakil works.

"I work with a lawyer, so I use his office," she explained.

During one meeting, our undercover reporter asked to be introduced to Shakil to thank him for introducing him to Tanisa and was led through to a neighbouring room where he shook Shakil's hand.

Tanisa also explained the role played by Worcester LGBT, which she described as "our organisation" and which claims on its website to have been "formally acknowledged by the Home Office...recognising our continued contribution to supporting LGBT+ asylum seekers across the UK".

She told the reporter he must attend the next meeting, held in early April, and told him some people there would be like him and pursuing fake cases and "there will be genuine ones, too".

"This meeting is essential because you are required to provide evidence to the Home Office demonstrating that, if you are gay, you are indeed affiliated with a gay organisation," she told him.

She said Worcester LGBT would be able to issue a letter he could use as evidence for his application.

"We will issue a letter from our end stating that you…are our member, the genuine one, affiliated with us, and someone we personally know. This type of evidence is very strong."
We showed our footage to Ana Gonzalez, an expert immigration lawyer with 30 years' experience. She said Tanisa was clearly breaking the law, "committing fraud by manufacturing a claim to give to this person".

"People like that [are] just really making things harder for the legitimate asylum seekers and refugees out there," Gonzalez said.

"Particularly for something that is as intangible as being LGBTI, really, because when you are a victim of torture, when certain things happen to you, often there is a way of evidencing that, in an objective way.

"When it comes to the queer community, it is not. It is just based on contact and on how you actually present and how convincing you can be on that particular day, irrespective of whether you're telling the truth or not."

After being approached by BBC News with her comments to the undercover reporter, Tanisa blamed communication difficulties for a "misunderstanding" and said she doesn't speak Urdu fluently. She denied advising the reporter to make a false claim or offering to create fabricated evidence.

Shakil said he passed on the undercover reporter's details to Tanisa without knowing or suspecting that she would offer to fabricate an asylum claim.

He said Worcester LGBT did not create or support fabricated evidence in asylum claims and it was not up to the organisation to determine whether any individual was actually gay.

Worcester LGBT was conducting an investigation into Tanisa's conduct and that she had no decision-making authority within the group, Shakil added.

Law & Justice Solicitors said Tanisa had no professional connection to the firm and that it was investigating "any potential unauthorised access" to its London office.

It said our undercover reporter was never set up as a client of the firm.
At the same time as he was meeting with Tanisa, our undercover reporter also made an appointment with an adviser at the law firm Connaught Law, which has its offices in the heart of London's legal district.

There he met Aqeel Abbasi, a senior legal adviser at Connaught.

Abbasi told our reporter that he could help him stay in the country and appeared to be willing to direct him on how to fabricate evidence for a fake claim

He promised that the chance of refusal by the Home Office was "very low".

He said his fee would be £7,000 and, once that had been paid, his office would contact the undercover reporter to guide them through the process and the kind of evidence required.

This would include advising him on "where to go or what specific actions to take".

"Evidence must be provided and submitted from their societies and clubs," Abbasi said.

"Where they go, where their gay clubs are located."

At one point, the reporter asked if he would have to go to a gay club.

"Yes, you will have to," Abbasi told him.

"But I am not like that," the reporter replied.

Abbasi appeared to be amused by this and said: "I will take some photos from there."

The legal adviser also suggested the undercover reporter would need to find someone willing to pretend to be his male partner.

When the reporter said he had a wife in Pakistan, Abbasi was quick to suggest a cover story to explain this, by saying that things were "more open" in the UK than Pakistan and that he now had a male partner.

"We will prepare a statement for you, and once you read it, you will understand exactly how it is," said Abbasi.

'It's a vast problem'​

Worcester LGBT holds monthly meetings drawing attendees from all over the country, many of whom appear to be fake aslyum claimants.

But it is not the only community group which is being used by asylum seekers pretending to be gay.

Ejel Khan, the British-born founder of the Muslim LGBT Network, based in Luton, said: "It's a vast problem.

"People offer to pay me money to give them letters of recommendation from my organisation but I never take it. All my work is voluntary."

He said some had even told him "I'm not gay but I want to stay in this country".
It is difficult to know precisely how many asylum applications might be fabricated.

But Home Office statistics show that Pakistani nationals make up a disproportionate number of the claims made on the grounds of sexuality.

In 2023, the most recent year for which data is available, there were initial decisions on 3,430 LGBT asylum claims, and nearly 1,400 new asylum claims lodged on the basis of sexual orientation.

Some 42% were made by Pakistani nationals and they accounted for the largest number of such claims in each of the five previous years.

In the same year, Pakistani nationals were only the fourth most common nationality for all asylum applications and accounted for just 6% of overall asylum applications.

There is no more recent data on asylum applications on the basis of sexuality.

But Home Office statisticians have noted a steep rise in asylum claims more generally from Pakistani nationals, as well as migrants from Bangladesh and India, on study or work visas in recent years.

Nearly two-thirds of asylum seekers claiming persecution on the basis of sexual orientation had their claims granted at the initial stage in 2023.
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Ali, not his real name, originally came to the UK as a student from Pakistan in 2011.

He went to a lawyer for advice before his visa expired three years later and he says she advised him to make up a story that he was gay to claim asylum in order to stay in the country.

He said she "advised me to visit my GP and demonstrate that I was suffering from depression, specifically due to this visa situation".

He added: "I didn't actually take the pills, but she insisted that I obtain the medication so that we could submit proof to the Home Office showing that I had gone into a state of depression."

An initial interview with the Home Office did not go well and protracted appeals ended up pushing up his costs to more than £10,000.

He went on Pride marches and visited gay clubs more than 10 times, taking photos to submit as evidence on his lawyer's instructions.

BBC News has also seen evidence that he unsuccessfully sought to obtain a letter of support from a charity for people living with HIV after attending meetings there and lying to them that he had the virus.

He eventually returned home to Pakistan in 2019 because of rising legal costs, eight years after arriving in the UK.

When his wife came to the UK as an international student in 2022, he was blocked from joining her because of his own failed attempt at asylum.

But he told us three of his friends had been successful in getting asylum by also lying about their sexuality.

"They even got married in Pakistan and brought their wives here and now they have children," he said.

Tighter immigration rules​

Labour MP Jo White, a member of the home affairs select committee, said the government must "crack down" on law firms and advisers exposed by the BBC.

The Bassetlaw MP told BBC Radio 4's Today programme she hoped the police would investigate.

"It is absolutely essential that the government cracks down on them. Evidence like this I hope will go straight to the police and the police will begin their activity and break it apart."

She also called on the Home Office to stop issuing study visas to people from Pakistan, as it did last month for people from Afghanistan, Cameroon, Myanmar and Sudan over what it said was widespread visa abuse.

Conservative shadow Justice Secretary Nick Timothy said in a post on X that the BBC investigation "confirms an open secret".

"Human rights laws have killed immigration control," he added.

"Many claimant lawyers and 'charities' - many publicly funded - are abetting thousands of crimes. They all belong in prison. We will bring the whole thing down."

The Home Office says it is a criminal offence to make an asylum application that involves deception and anyone found guilty of it in a court can be put in prison, after which they may be deported.

"Any attempt to misuse protections designed for people fleeing genuine persecution because of their sexuality is deplorable," a spokesperson told the BBC.

"The asylum system is built on robust safeguards to ensure every claim is rigorously and fairly assessed.

"Protection is granted only to those who meet the established criteria. Abuse is actively uncovered and procedures continually reviewed to shut down misuse."

In March, Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood announced significant changes to the UK's immigration rules, meaning asylum seekers to the UK would now only be offered temporary protection, with their cases reviewed every 30 months.

A day later, during a meeting with our undercover reporter, Tanisa appeared confident that these changes would not make it any harder to obtain asylum on the basis of fabricated evidence.

But she used it in an apparent effort to convince our reporter not to delay with his own application.

"They have done this now," she warned. "Who knows what else they might do tomorrow or the day after?"

As the mood lightened towards the end of the meeting, she had a request of her own for her client.

"If you know anyone who needs help in the future, you'll bring them to me, won't you?"
 
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