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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[teriyakiburns]

How does this work? You run someone over, on the wrong side of the road. And it seems you swerved into them,

This one is easy. There's a psychological phenomenon called target fixation, where a person becomes so focused on an object that they instinctively turn towards it. If you're standing still it's not a problem, but if you're moving and trying to avoid the object then it becomes an issue. In a car, it can be fatal, and is the likely cause of a lot of "suddenly swerved towards me" accidents. The driver is caught by surprise by someone stepping into the road, tries to avoid them, but is so focused on the person that they instinctively steer the car towards them. This is taken into account when deciding if driving was truly dangerous or merely bad.

The insurance cancellation is a mitigating factor in the severity of the sentencing. She wasn't intentionally driving without insurance, which would demand a far harsher penalty. The reasoning behind the decision will include the knowledge that south african call centres are staffed almost entirely by indians, with the obvious issues that will cause, but also that even south african blacks are nearly unintelligible over the phone. If the driver had deliberately avoided insurance, she'd have been banned from driving for a few years (which would realistically be for the rest of her life) and probably ordered to pay costs. Instead she got points, because it wasn't really her fault.

The general description of the accident makes it sound like the victim stepped out into the road in the brief moment the old driver was checking the other direction, so it's an understandable lapse. Neither seems to have been paying full attention right before the accident, which is a further mitigation.

All in all, what we see here is an unusual thing in the courts today: a judge with a tiny amount of common sense, who can look at the circumstances and decide to be fair and just, rather than be needlessly harsh. Justice isn't always served by the maximum penalty. Save that for actual scum.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Four arrested on suspicion of spying on Jewish community for Iran, Met Police says​

Please note this headline is misleading; a total of TEN have been arrested, another 6 were arrested on suspicion of 'assisting an offender'. A Jew noticed something was up and tipped off police.

Four men suspected of carrying out surveillance on the Jewish community have been arrested on suspicion of spying for Iran, the Metropolitan Police has said.
The investigation relates to the surveillance of locations and individuals.
Officers arrested one Iranian and three dual British/Iranian nationals, shortly after 1am in Barnet and Harrow in north London, and Watford in Hertfordshire on Friday.

The men were arrested on suspicion of assisting a foreign intelligence service as part of a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation into suspected National Security Act offences.
Two men, aged 40 and 55, were arrested at addresses in the Barnet area, along with a 52-year-old man in Watford and a 22-year-old man in Harrow, according to a police statement.

Officers said searches were taking place in Barnet, Watford and another address in Wembley.
Another six men, aged between 20 and 49, were arrested at the same location in Harrow on suspicion of assisting an offender. One of the men was further arrested on suspicion of assaulting a police officer. All 10 men remain in custody.

Commander Helen Flanagan, head of Counter Terrorism Policing London, said: "Today's arrests are part of a long-running investigation and part of our ongoing work to disrupt malign activity where we suspect it.
"We understand the public may be concerned, in particular the Jewish community, and as always, I would ask them to remain vigilant and if they see or hear anything that concerns them, then to contact us."

In a statement to the Commons on Monday, Sir Keir Starmer hinted at the challenge faced by counter-terrorism officers.

"In the UK, Iran has directed threats toward dissidents and the Jewish community," the prime minister said.

"Over the last year alone, Iran-backed plots against people in the UK have been disrupted. We must be clear about the threat that Iran poses."

Jewish groups, including the Board of Deputies of British Jews, said they were grateful to police, but the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA) also criticised the government, saying ministers had not "taken seriously" the Iranian threat, which had been "long recognised by British Jews".

"The government's failure to keep its promise to proscribe the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)... has sent the message that support for the brutal Iranian regime and its Jew-hating and West-hating ideology is perfectly acceptable in Britain," the CAA added in a statement.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

All in all, what we see here is an unusual thing in the courts today: a judge with a tiny amount of common sense, who can look at the circumstances and decide to be fair and just, rather than be needlessly harsh. Justice isn't always served by the maximum penalty. Save that for actual scum.

Your making excuses for this woman when it's a simple situation. An old lady ran over a woman while driving on the wrong side of the road. The rest of it is a sob sob story that's not relevant to the crime. She should have just lost her license and been done with it. It's not common sense to let women run people over and possibly kill/cripple them and go "Well Indians talk funny".

Please note this headline is misleading; a total of TEN have been arrested, another 6 were arrested on suspicion of 'assisting an offender'. A Jew noticed something was up and tipped off police.

What did they actually do? What is spying for Iran? Were they planning an attack or just looking at the kikes? Is kike watching a crime now? This looks like propaganda to me, where people are guilty of.. something. But there's no telling what. And this is the 21st thing of this kind we're stopped.

I'm glad some brown men are off the street but why? We know they don't do shit to browns normally so why is this case different unless it's Labour trying to act tough and reassure the general public. If Starmer says we're safer I'm going into my fallout bunker I trust him so little.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

What did they actually do? What is spying for Iran? Were they planning an attack or just looking at the kikes? Is kike watching a crime now?

From the article, it seems that they were on the intelligence communities radar for having connections to Iran and someone tipped off police that the four had been spotted around Jewish buildings acting suspiciously, so yes they were essentially arrested for kike watching. Jews are jumpy at the minute.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

From the article, it seems that they were on the intelligence communities radar for having connections to Iran and someone tipped off police that the four had been spotted around Jewish buildings acting suspiciously, so yes they were essentially arrested for kike watching. Jews are jumpy at the minute.

They're always jumpy. It's just very weird timing. They're searching homes now to see if they can find something to make them guilty for.

 

[Quintex96]

How does this work? You run someone over, on the wrong side of the road. And it seems you swerved into them, flipped them over the car.. And it's okay because you gave them a hug and the you cancelled your insurance a week before?

The only person claiming that the car was on the wrong side of the road is the person hit, nowhere else is that mentioned. Reading between the lines, what seems to have happened is the pedestrian walked in front of the moving car, tried to claim driver fault. When that seemed to not be the case they realized the car has iffy insurance and pursued that and settled for a fine and points on the license.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

So lads, I think I've figured out a fix for the ballooning care sector costs crisis and the pension crisis in one fell swoop.

When I'm Prime Minister I'm going to roll back all the anti-smoking shit that has ever happened. You can smoke in pubs again, smoking advertisements can run again etc.

Get everyone smoking and drinking again so Betty (97) is a rarity because instead she's had a major stroke at 58, and became quadraspazzed until her death 2 years later. If you don't like smoking you can simply not smoke, but it'd cull off so many people at once.

EDIT: And I'd roll back the sugar tax too. Obsese people don't make it to pension age.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

The Government will appoint an "anti-Muslim hostility tsar" on Monday to tackle hatred towards Muslims; as leaked to the Spectator. What is the difference between 'an Islamist' and a Muslim in this document exactly...? I have highlighted a paragraph where, just after mentioning 'inclusion is a two-way street and we must respect immigrants cultures too' it outlines that we ALL must enforce LGBT rights. I can't tell if this is a usual ''leak'' of a white paper to the press to see what the national mood is, or an actual leak 'look at wtf this is'.

The Spectator has been leaked a draft copy of Protecting What Matters, a document outlining Labour’s new cohesion strategy which is to be unveiled in a cross government push next week. The 47-page paper features a crackdown on extremism and names Islamists as the biggest threat to community cohesion. It also outlines fresh demands that new arrivals in Britain seek to integrate and speak good English, described as a ‘fundamental basis for participating in society and an expectation of those who wish to call the UK home’. It states: ‘Those who come here must make a genuine effort to integrate into and engage with our shared way of life.’ The last census found that over a million people could not speak English well or at all.

The report states clearly that Islamists are responsible for three-quarters of the police’s counter-terror workload and 94 per cent of all terrorist deaths in the last 25 years. The plan also rejects calls, predominantly from British Muslims, for blasphemy laws in the UK.

Following the case of the religious studies teacher at Batley Grammar school, who was forced into hiding after showing caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed, the document promises to ‘stand against those who try to intimidate, threaten and harass others because they are offended by so-called “blasphemy.” We do not recognise blasphemy law in the UK.’

Further powers will be established to close extremist charities and suspend trustees with ‘unspent hate crime convictions’, to ‘strengthen monitoring’ of non-violent extremism in universities and to exclude hate preachers from the UK. As part of this, there will be rules to ensure that ‘public bodies do not confer legitimacy, funding or influence on extremist groups’.

But the plans will also raise alarm bells on free speech by outlining new rules to tackle ‘divisive content’ and ‘ensure trusted news sources are prominent’. Critics fear these measures will be used to silence critics of Islamists or even TV channels like GB News which some Labour people view as too right-wing.

The creation of a ‘special representative on anti-Muslim hostility’ is likely to give a prominent platform to an activist voice. Their job will be to ‘champion efforts across the UK to tackle hostility and hatred directed at Muslims and those perceived to be Muslim’.

Alongside that is a new definition of anti-Muslim hatred, which has been watered down to avoid defining Muslims as a race, but which will still condemn ‘the prejudicial stereotyping of Muslims, as part of a collective group with set characteristics, to stir up hatred against them, irrespective of their actual opinions, beliefs or actions as individuals’. Critics think this will create a blasphemy law by the back door.

Reading the paper highlights the difficult balancing act ministers are attempting by hailing the way some marchers and campaigners have embraced displaying the union flag or the English cross of St George before, a few sentences later, condemning right wing groups for using them as ‘tools of hate’ in their demonstrations, a ‘misuse of national symbols to exclude or intimidate’.

The paper paints a picture of a country where traditional cohesion in communities has broken down by immigration and the use of social media, which enables people to cluster with like-minded people online rather than the people they live near. Britain’s ‘historic social cohesion that has kept us united in the face of adversity’ is now ‘under threat’, it says.

And the government admits the role mass migration has played in this. ‘For many living in the UK, the changes brought about by mass migration have been too much, too quickly, leaving people feeling as thought they are losing their local and national identity.’ Calling integration ‘a two way street’, it says calling for ‘respect for different cultures’ and that ‘newcomers have a responsibility to engage with and embrace what it means to be British’.

The strategy will also seek to protect those who speak out, though it is unclear precisely how this will combat cancel culture. ‘Many people feel they cannot air perfectly legitimate concerns about the change they are seeing in their local communities. There must be space for honest discussion without assuming bad intentions or policing language.’

However, it also states that everyone must ‘embrace’ LGBT rights, opening the door to censure of those whose religious views are hostile to homosexuality and those who do not embrace trans rights. Ministers will also float the idea of religious education in the national curriculum and suggests the government should ‘promote’ religious education councils.

The paper also goes further than the government has done before to acknowledge that anti-Jewish hatred is a growing problem in the UK. ‘Antisemitism is being normalised in many corners of society – from our schools and universities to workplaces and the NHS,’ it says.

Despite the scale of the problem, the cohesion strategy comes with little new money. Ministers will announce plans for £800m over ten years for 40 areas where ‘social cohesion is under pressure,’ plus £750m over four years for youth, sport, and community infrastructure and a £5.5m fund to ‘restore local news where it has disappeared’.

A source close to Steve Reed, the secretary of state for housing, communities and local government, whose department helped coordinate the strategy, declined to comment on the leaked paper, but suggested it was not the final draft. The document, as published, will include a foreword by the Prime Minister.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

I have genuinely seen infants cut something out better than this image. If an adult did this then fucking hell it explains a lot about their political views.

A Jew noticed something was up and tipped off police.

Last time I did anything involving the words 'jew' and 'noticing' I got a knock on the door from prevent. But no this time it's good. I'm sure they would listen to tips about muslims watching and spying on women and girls with the same response right?

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Labour are going to suicide their own party lol. They have to try and appeal to the Reform voters so they don't lose by a land slide to the "far right" but all the Muslims will vote green if they don't appeal to them. Labour made enemies of everyone and now it's coming home to roost.

Also who the fuck writes a 47 page document and expects it to be read? That's a book at that point.

 

[Otterly]

The Government will appoint an "anti-Muslim hostility tsar" on Monday

Like for it, or against it?

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

Like for it, or against it?

I've already submitted my CV

 

[femboy fart huffer]

I've already submitted my CV

Thinking about doing the same. Which one is best to send them the .st or the .onion version?

 

[HairyBadger]

Labour are going to suicide their own party lol. They have to try and appeal to the Reform voters so they don't lose by a land slide to the "far right" but all the Muslims will vote green if they don't appeal to them. Labour made enemies of everyone and now it's coming home to roost.

Also who the fuck writes a 47 page document and expects it to be read? That's a book at that point.

The party of broad opinion has left them with the mentally unstable islamics on one side, and the mentally unstable greens in the middle, and their mythical RightWingNAZI children.


Labour are fucked.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Rumours are that two lifers have forced alex rudukoonbananaeater to drink bleach.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Rumours are that two lifers have forced alex rudukoonbananaeater to drink bleach.

Bang, and the dirt is gone!

 

[BongoMongo]

Rumours are that two lifers have forced alex rudukoonbananaeater to drink bleach.

Oh gosh I hope so. That's a suitable nasty way to go. A beating is short and effective, as is a stabbing. But your oesophagus and stomach burning to shreds is perfect.

 

[James X Maxwell]

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Rumours are that two lifers have forced alex rudukoonbananaeater to drink bleach.

I'll believe it when I see something more concrete than a rumour. Hopefully though.

Completely unrelated but a few days ago I was watching a video about two niggers doing the niggyest of nig crimes that involved hostages being forced to drink drain cleaner. Admittedly sodium hydroxide is pretty different to hypochlorite but it sounds like a fucking horrible death. Sounds like drain cleaner would be a more instantly and excruciatingly painful but a somewhat 'quick' death but bleach would be slower and more drawn out. I imagine the difference would be like being forced to choose between being shot or stabbed to death. I can't imagine that beating someone to death or fashioning a shank is harder than obtaining bleach either.

 

[Sir Keir Starmer]

That's Ian Huntley clutching on to his final hours of life.

Personally, I hope he makes it through, just so someone else can have a go at 'Pin the knife in the Huntley'.