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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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There is one extra thing to do. One of the many ways they can prevent going home is for their country of origin to refuse to take them back or making the arrangements to send them back very difficult. Which they will do often to help migrants. People in the US used to use that loophole all the time to avoid deportation. But the eventual innovation was to find a literal hell on earth that would agree to take anyone in exchange for a few side considerations. A hell on earth that nobody would want to be sent to and would agree to just about any alternate deportation conditions to avoid being sent to.

The US choice for this role was South Sudan. Which is a very bad place with no government to speak of and not close to anything.
Yeah, you just drop them into the PvP server and they'll soon be begging their home shitholes to take them back. I honestly think that just ferrying them to some random African nation, and forcing them out at low tide from the ship so they can wade up to shore buck ass naked, is the humane option.
 
I think a group of us should pretend to be a refugee family and split the payment four ways. 40k for a family? Fucking hell. How much is a dinghy?

More wattsapp texts have been leaked that show Labour MPs squabbling over this. I feel like they don't really understand that it's not just the amount of boat people, but the provisions they are given which the Natives are not. Announcing you are giving them 10 grand to leave is the worst fucking policy idea ever. Why do they get free electricity and a roof over their head? What the fuck? I dread to think how much this shite is costing us as a nation
Do you have an article or pictures of them? What did they say?

I hope Restore comes out and says "We're giving them 0 quid. They will go home now by choice, for free or they will go home by force when we get in power". Constantly turn the screw, up the ante.
 
an Aldous Huxley dystopia
This is more accurate than you think. Remember that in the book you got darker skin the further down the social ladder you got. That kind of shit is literally the goal of some people. A ruling white elite who are "genetically better at leadership" so automatically should be in charge and a under class of browns who are too stupid to do anything but menial tasks.
I love a good dystopia novel and The Machine Stops, Brave New World and 1984 are some of my favourites. I really hate how much 1984 has been over analysed by idiots in recent years. 1984 should come with The Lion and The Unicorn as a preface.
 
A hell on earth that nobody would want to be sent to and would agree to just about any alternate deportation conditions to avoid being sent to.

The US choice for this role was South Sudan. Which is a very bad place with no government to speak of and not close to anything.
Correct me if I'm wrong but was that not the (failed) Rwanda deal?


Do you have an article or pictures of them? What did they say?

I hope Restore comes out and says "We're giving them 0 quid. They will go home now by choice, for free or they will go home by force when we get in power". Constantly turn the screw, up the ante.
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One thing all sides can agree on is that all this is a major scandal in waiting.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but was that not the (failed) Rwanda deal?

There was a side-deal that involved Rwanda. The full list of places that they do third-country deportations to is: Costa Rica, El Salvador, Eswatini, Mexico, Panama, Rwanda, South Sudan, and Uganda.

South Sudan and Uganda are the serious punishment options that they would threaten people with. Rwanda isn't in that same class of hell.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but was that not the (failed) Rwanda deal?



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Stella creasy with the jewish/muslim/johnny foreigner page alignment (Right to left not left to right). Not a jew/muslim/foreigner jab, just caught my eye is all.
 
This is more accurate than you think.
Say what you will about the channel this was uploaded to, but I rewatched this bit from Huxley's interview with Mike Wallace in 1958; he essentially is describing NPCs getting all their talking points from the TV and being made docile with pills and materialism. I rewatched this recently and found I got more out of it given what I know about sociology and politics now in relation to propaganda. - NPCs do indeed love their slavery.


The bit about the TV saying the same thing in Communist countries reminds me of that old "This is extremely dangerous to our democracy" video.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but was that not the (failed) Rwanda deal?



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Paki at the end saying "Stopping people is not a deterrent. Keep the borders open for more people like me!"

It's nice these people have marked themselves as enemies and will lose their jobs one way or another shortly.

Is it a controversial opinion to say all text messages and group chats of the sitting government should be public? Seems a sensible thing to do.
 
News o'clock.

The Council of Sanctuary bullshit continues apace, I suspect tearing back the push behind it will reveal a long list of NGOs that should be treated as hostile actors. The quotes from the various council members are enraging reading

Members of Cumberland Council met at the Civic Centre in Carlisle on Tuesday (March 3) to consider the petition – the citizens of Carlisle and Cumberland object the city and council of sanctuary status.
According to the council report the petition was submitted via the www.change.org website and, at the date it was submitted to the council, the petition contained 1883 signatures, of which 1112 were from council area which meant it exceeded the threshold to be debated by the council.

In the petition the organiser cites a number of examples where asylum seekers have committed serious crimes, once they had arrived elsewhere in the UK, as reasons for the objection to sanctuary status and they state: “The city is unrecognisable to what it once was.”

Petition organiser

Organiser Josh Kirkwood told members that areas such as Weston-Super-Mare had withdrawn from the sanctuary initiative due to the public backlash and said that councillors should ‘serve the people not follow the party lines’. He added: “There are deep tensions in the Carlisle community.”
He gave an example where a resident was assaulted by someone presumed to be an asylum seeker and added: “Cumberland voters will hold you accountable at the next election.”

Council leader

Councillor Mark Fryer (St Johns and Great Clifton, Labour), the leader of the council, said the petition made no clear demands and the move to becoming a council of sanctuary had been ‘unanimously’ passed by all the political groups.
He said that more residents supported the area being a place of sanctuary than opposed it and they should listen to all opinions and consider the evidence however, when there were outbursts from the packed public gallery, he added: “I won’t be shouted down by anybody.”

Opposition amendments

Councillor Gareth Ellis (Wetheral, Conservative) proposed an amendment to the recommendation that they note the contents of the petition.
His amendment recommended that the issue of illegal trading, illegal working and associated organised crime impacts on high streets in north and west Cumbria be referred to the council’s place overview and scrutiny committee.
He said that the council should note the Parliamentary concern that ‘illegal immigration, illegal working and illegal trading too often manifest in the proliferation of dodgy shops on our high street’.

Cllr Fryer said the work of scrutiny committees was prioritised by the chairman and vice chairman and his proposed amendment was nothing to do with the sanctuary initiative.
Councillor Helen Tucker (Cockermouth North, Green Party) said she noted the concerns of the members of the public and listened to their concerns but she could not accept the paragraph relating to illegal immigration, illegal working and illegal trading.
And councillor Joseph Ghayouba (Bransty, Labour) said it was wrong to link the three issues and added: “I think conflating those three things is the wrong way to go about it.”
When the proposal was put to a recorded vote it was overwhelmingly voted against and the amendment fell.
Councillor Lisa Hinton (Currock, Labour) said she felt the meaning of council of sanctuary had become lost, and there were a lot of assumptions made about it, but it would cost the taxpayers nothing.

She said that the council had no say over any decision to place asylum seekers in the area by the Home Office and added: “The city of sanctuary has been around for a long time.”

Members agreed to note the contents of the petition and, speaking after the decision, Mr Kirkwood said: “I don’t think we were listened to in this meeting, the previous meeting and every safety concern has been dismissed.”
He added that there was no acknowledgement of anything he had said in the petition and he felt members had just tried to dismiss everything that I was trying to raise as racist.
The report stated: “Council agreed in September 2024 to pursue recognition as a council of sanctuary.
“Since then, a Council of Sanctuary Strategic Statement has been approved by Executive on November 25, 2025, and a motion to overturn the September 2024 agreement has been debated and rejected by the council in January 2026.
“Following the confirmation of council’s intent in January 2026, an application for the Council of Sanctuary Award has now been submitted.”
According to the report the petition makes no clear request of the council and it adds: “Rather it outlines a number of concerns relating to the changing demographics of Carlisle, specifically related to the presence of asylum seekers, or people who are presumed to be so

“It particularly raises fears about safety, indicating that those signing it feel intimidated by the presence of people who are seeking asylum.
“As members will be aware, being a Council of Sanctuary will make no difference to the number of asylum seekers placed in Cumberland by the Home Office.
“The aim of being a Council of Sanctuary is to ensure that people arriving in Cumberland are supported adequately to be quickly and effectively integrated into local society.”

According to the report it was proposed that, on the basis that the council has now twice confirmed its support for becoming a Council of Sanctuary, most recently at its last meeting, it was proposed that council noted the contents of the petition.
It stated that alternative options considered include, through debate, council could reach any alternative resolution it sees fit and the report concludes that the report is intended to confirm what actions are being proposed.
Absolutely hilarious New Zealand seethe about the English language

A bill to recognise English as an official language of New Zealand has cleared its first hurdle in parliament amid ridicule from opposition parties and linguists who say it is “unnecessary” and “cynical”.
The bill seeks to give English, which is spoken by 95% of the country, the same official status as te reo Māori (Māori language) and New Zealand sign language. The bill said the status and use of the existing official languages would not be affected.

Its introduction forms part of the coalition deal between the minor populist New Zealand First party and centre-right National party.
On 3 March, the coalition, which also includes the minor Act party, voted in favour of the bill at the first reading, allowing it to move to select committee stage for public consultation and further readings in parliament. The timing is not clear but the bill has widespread support within the government and is likely to become law.
During the debate, New Zealand First’s leader and foreign affairs minister, Winston Peters, said English had never been deemed official and the bill would “correct that anomaly”.
He argued the use of Māori in public services was causing confusion.
“This bill won’t solve the push of this virtue signalling narrative completely,” Peters said. “But it is the first step towards ensuring logic and common sense prevails when the vast majority of New Zealanders communicate in English, and understand English, in a country that should use English as its primary and official language.”
Peters – who is Māori – has long opposed affirmative initiatives intended to advance Māori and criticised the use of Māori names for government departments. In 2025, a row erupted in parliament after Peters questioned why MPs were referring to New Zealand by its Māori name, Aotearoa, despite it being widely used, including on currency and passports.
The National Party has said the legislation is not a priority, but they would support it as part of their coalition agreement, and MPs from National and Act spoke in its favour.
Act’s Simon Court said it did not have to be a “culture war issue”, while National’s Rima Nakhle said making English official was “not the end of the world”.
But the proposal has garnered little support outside the coalition.
In advice to the government, ministry of justice officials recommended that lawmakers should not pass the bill, as there was “no evidence to support concerns about the use or status of English as an official language”.
Māori and New Zealand sign language had become official to protect the status of linguistic minorities, justice officials said, and recognising English in the same way would “not change its status as the default language”.

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Very few English-speaking countries had made English an official language, the officials said, and where they had, it generally coincided with protecting another language – for example in Canada, where law established both French and English are to be used official contexts.
The bill has prompted backlash from opposition parties and language experts.
“It is scaremongering, it is cynical, and frankly we can do without it in this country,” the Labour MP Kieran McAnulty said during the first reading.
The Green Party co-leader Chlöe Swarbrick noted English was “not under threat”. English was “literally beaten” into people, Swarbrick said, referring to the Native Schools Act 1867, which resulted in children being punished for speaking Māori.
“This is a bill which is an answer to a problem that does not exist,” she said. “In plain English, for all members of this government, this bill is bullshit, and you know it.”
Sharon Harvey, associate professor specialising in educational linguistics at the Auckland University of Technology, told the Guardian the bill was “vexatious” and “unnecessary”.
The bill’s proponents were playing to a section of society who were uncomfortable with the visibility of Māori language and believed in the “spurious” argument it was diminishing the importance of English, Harvey said.
“Already, this government had proven to be quite strong on being proponents of English first, or English only, in some spaces,” Harvey said, pointing to the government’s policies reducing the visibility of Māori in public services and removal of Māori words from some books for schoolchildren.
“I wonder if we have this kind of legislation, whether it will give certain governments more encouragement to reduce the importance of other languages in this country.”

New plan is to claim women are being threatened by men putting up flags. Unlike women being threatened by men coming from countries where they are property these naturally anonymous complaints must be taken seriously!
The mayor of Church Stretton has urged for calm as he said a number of women were threatened by men fixing union jack flags to lampposts.

Andy Munro said he received several worrying calls from people who went to speak to those using a cherry picker to fly the flags high.

West Mercia Police said two people had raised concerns with police around an incident on 19 February involving flags being put up in the town, but said no crimes had been committed.

A local group, called Raise the Flags Shrewsbury Plus, said they were the ones to put up the flags and have denied any wrongdoing.
Some of the flags have now been removed by members of the public who say they are being used to divide them.

The appearance of the flags follows a national movement driven by anti-immigration groups since last summer, and in recent weeks more union jacks and St George's crosses have emerged in Shropshire.

The mayor said the day the flags went up almost 40 people contacted him with their concerns.

"Most particularly, we received phone calls from a number of women who had gone out to see what the commotion was, and they were threatened and abused by the people putting up the flags," he said.

"We can have the debate about the rights and wrongs of the flags, but I don't think anybody will agree that it's right under any circumstances for women alone at night to be threatened."

Church Stretton is known locally as the town of flags because it flies so many all year round, but Munro said tying up cheap and flimsy union jacks with cable ties and string was disrespectful.
Why have thousands of St George's flags gone up in cities and towns?
St George's flags grew in number as the Lionesses' Euros campaign gathered pace in July 2025.

That same month, Weoley Castle, Birmingham, had a mixture of the St George Cross and union jacks hanging from every lamp-post on many streets.

A group calling themselves the Weoley Warriors claimed responsibility, saying they were a "group of proud English men with a common goal to show Birmingham and the rest of the country of how proud we are of our history, freedoms and achievements".

Flags then started to appear on lamp-posts across the country, and groups rapidly growing on social media confirmed they were motivated by illegal immigration as much as national pride.

A Midlands-based group called Raise the Colours have been crowdfunding for flags to hang in towns and villages around the UK.

Unnamed members were among 10 British activists, dubbed "far right" by the French government, to be banned from France last month after engaging in actions to stop migrants crossing the English Channel in small boats.

Flags were put up in Shrewsbury through Raise The Flags Shrewsbury Plus, with its organiser saying it was a protest against the government and some of the money they collected went good causes.

Another group, calling itself Lower The Flags Shrewsbury, said those putting up flags were intimidating and trying to create division.


In Church Stretton, flags are flown all year round, including a union jack in the town square and the war memorial cemetery.

The town council also put up flags from the Commonwealth in the summer months to promote Church Stretton Arts Festival.

"It's a very patriotic town," said Munro. "It is remarkable the number of people who turn out, for example, for events like Remembrance Sunday," he said.

"And it's also important to note we're very comfortable flying a range of flags like, Navy and Army flags on Armed Forces Day, the Ukrainian flag, the Pride flag."

He also said the town had a large veteran population, who felt the flag disrespected their service.

"The sort of things that are being put up are not good quality flags," he said.

"The union flag is one they have served under, a flag that some of their colleagues have died under.

"They're saying: 'Look at the way that those flags are being tied up with bits of string and cable ties, just left uncropped, and it's disgusting that you have that sort of disrespect'."

Residents were split about what the new union jacks meant.

"We're all-inclusive Britain and a lot of these people who are demonstrating against [the flag] and saying they don't want the flags up, it's just trying to divide," said resident David Marham.

"If I went to live in Italy, I'd love them to put out the Italian flag because that's that's their country and that is the same with every other country - they should be all permitted to flag their own flags.

"It's a democracy people can have their own opinion, that's fine, but don't try and divide people."

However, Wendy Davis said: "Normally we put flags up and it's good because it's varied."

"During the summer, you have all the Commonwealth flags come out and the union jacks - that is welcome but not particular ones against the refugees and immigrants."

Church Stretton Town Council said it "operates a clear and established flag flying policy", which governed the official raising of flags at appropriate locations throughout the town.

Degenerates mourning the Ayatollah in Manchester. Much of these actions organised by student groups, not really a lot to say that any student society gets to organise an event praising that piece of shit. I underlined the best bit
Protesters mourned the death of Ayatollah Khamenei at a candlelit vigil in Manchester.
On Wednesday night, up to 100 people gathered for a memorial to the Iranian supreme leader, who was killed in an attack launched by Israel and the US last weekend.
Demonstrators were pictured burning images of Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister. There were also clashes with counter-protesters who were celebrating the ayatollah’s death in US-Israeli attacks on Tehran.

Members of the AbSoc at the University of Manchester advertised the vigil in Sidney Street, five minutes from the university campus, as an event “honouring the ayatollah”, however, the crowd is thought to have included many demonstrators who were not students.
One handwritten sign at the vigil read: “You can kill a man, but you can’t kill an ideology.”

Another sign, propped up on a table that was shrouded in a black cloth with a photograph of Khamenei, read: “My enemies have the support of each other to kill me, O Heart warming love ... I have only your support, loyal to Ayatollah Khamenei.”
A poster for the vigil said it was supported by the Friends of the Islamic Centre of Manchester.
It came amid mounting concerns about the spread of Islamism on university campuses, particularly in the aftermath of the October 7 Hamas attacks on Israel.
A report published at the end of 2024 found that anti-Semitic abuse in British universities had reached record levels in the wake of the conflict.

On Friday, the University of Manchester’s AbSoc plans to hold a “commemorative” gathering to “remember the martyrs of the recent strikes”.
An Instagram story shared by the society said a pre-planned event, organised with a youth organisation at Alfurqan Islamic Centre in Manchester, had been changed to a memorial event “due to the current circumstances”.
The update said: “We will remember the martyrs of the recent strikes, and a majalis for Imam Ali ibn Abu Talib will also take place. Community members are kindly requested to bring a simple dish for iftar, as it will still be opened before the Majalis.”

Attendees at the Khamenei vigil were significantly outnumbered by 300 to 400 counter-protesters who gathered to celebrate his death and demonstrate in support of the freedom of the Iranian people.
Under Khamenei’s watch, thousands of anti-regime protesters were massacred at the start of this year. He also backed Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria and provided support to Hezbollah and Hamas militants in Lebanon and Gaza.

The counter-protest included dancing and singing to tracks including the Village People’s YMCA, a song that has enjoyed a new wave of popularity after Donald Trump danced to it at several political rallies.
After the death of Khamenei, Mr Trump said America was “knocking the c--p” out of Iran and warned that a “big wave” of strikes was still to come.
Strikes on Iran by the US and Israel have prompted a wider conflict in the Middle East, which has entered its sixth day.
Videos shared by the Manchester Evening News showed scuffles between the two groups of demonstrators towards the end of the events. The scuffles were soon broken up by police.

Last weekend, students affiliated with AbSoc at the University of Cambridge shared a picture on social media of Khamenei embracing a young girl. The picture was captioned: “This is the man who was killed by the leaders in the Epstein files.”
Students at UCL posted a warning against the “policing of Muslim grief” on campuses. They said: “Students are entitled both legally and morally to mourn, to speak, and to organise within the law.”
At the University of Edinburgh, students shared a black and white photo of the ayatollah alongside the caption: “Condolences on the martyrdom of Ayatollah Sayyid Khaemenei.”


Students at the University of Leeds and the University of Bristol also joined the outpouring of grief. A group of students at Bristol said Khamenei was “an 86-year-old man [who] stood alone to defend Islam while all the so-called Islamic countries were drowning in luxury and silence”.
A Telegraph investigation revealed that similar homages were shared by AbSoc groups at universities including Cardiff, Reading, Surrey, Sheffield and Westminster.

The findings led to calls for ministers to intervene and to review the posts in light of the Government’s anti-extremism Prevent programme.
Louis Danker, the president of the Union of Jewish Students, called for the student groups to be “investigated and held to account”.
The University of Manchester’s AbSoc was contacted for comment.

I also found a bunch of Guardian articles where their manipulative language made me so angry I will post them tomorrow instead. If anyone fancies getting it in the interim one of it is Shabana selling the immigration "crackdown" to Guardian readers which makes it very clear how Labour plan to not commit to their claims.
 
The Rwanda deal
I still just take issue with the idea of a 'deal'. There is no 'deal'. The 'deal' is either fuck off back home on your own or we will make you. Why do we have to make deals and negotiate? We have borders. Enforce them. Simple as. I know that the deal was to deport them there but once again we should not be making a deal. The 'deal' is your citizens illegally immigrated to our country and we are forcibly sending them back, be that to rwanda or somewhere else. If they are from africa they get dumped back there, arabs dumped in arabia, indians dumped in india. There is no deal or negotiation. You get dumped there and that's the end of it. Why do we need to negotiate with some shithole in africa to dump our undesirables there? Just send them back to where they belong. If they refuse to say then they get shoved on the next flight with a spare seat. What the fuck happened to the idea of not negotiating with criminals?
Absolutely hilarious New Zealand seethe about the English language
Fucking insane that the welsh have it sorted out but they somehow don't? What is the idea of 'put both languages on the signs' really that hard of a concept? Idk is it really that hard to simply just say both languages are official languages of the country? It's already incredibly obviously true but yet people are arguing with it?
men putting up flags
People still do this to any serious degree? I thought that was just a few months and then everyone got bored of it. I would be willing to bet if this isn't straight up bullshit then it's brown people 'putting up flags' and beating women at the same time to try push the idea that flag people beat women. That or the woman was brown in which case yea I can believe it and I don't care. Ok I misread that. What the fuck does threatening or harassment mean? In this country with how the rest of the article is written I can take a guess what it actually means. It was probably just them saying fuck off or something like that.
I don't think anybody will agree that it's right under any circumstances for women alone at night to be threatened
So you agree that muslims should all be deported at the very least then? Right? Surely?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but was that not the (failed) Rwanda deal?



Yes sorry, was mobilefagging. Texts presented as a graphic, originally leaked to Aubrey Allegretti of the Times, article about the leak
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Why is always the women complaining like this? Even the muzzie in the last one is a woman.
 
What is the idea of 'put both languages on the signs' really that hard of a concept? Idk is it really that hard to simply just say both languages are official languages of the country? It's already incredibly obviously true but yet people are arguing with it?
Making English an official language gives English some sort of validation rather than being the language of the eeeeevil colonisers.
 
I think a group of us should pretend to be a refugee family and split the payment four ways. 40k for a family? Fucking hell. How much is a dinghy?

More wattsapp texts have been leaked that show Labour MPs squabbling over this. I feel like they don't really understand that it's not just the amount of boat people, but the provisions they are given which the Natives are not. Announcing you are giving them 10 grand to leave is the worst fucking policy idea ever. Why do they get free electricity and a roof over their head? What the fuck? I dread to think how much this shite is costing us as a nation
It makes me genuinely angry, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, when I hear lawyers, judges and politicians say that we have obligations to these invasive parasites. Legal obligations that go far above and beyond any obligations to the native population.

My mind literally boggles. Who voted for such laws? When were they enacted? And what sane member of the judiciary or legislature could stomach having them on the books for a minute once the absurdity came to light?

I don't care about such laws. Or any court seeking to enforce them. Enough. Stop these boat people coming NOW. Get rid of them, I don't care if it's "illegal" to do so.
 
This is more accurate than you think. Remember that in the book you got darker skin the further down the social ladder you got. That kind of shit is literally the goal of some people. A ruling white elite who are "genetically better at leadership" so automatically should be in charge and a under class of browns who are too stupid to do anything but menial tasks.
I love a good dystopia novel and The Machine Stops, Brave New World and 1984 are some of my favourites. I really hate how much 1984 has been over analysed by idiots in recent years. 1984 should come with The Lion and The Unicorn as a preface.
I've often said that people have this weird misconception that the poor are the enemy of the rich. The poor are either too busy trying to survive or like that because they have no sense of purpose (depending on which). They rarely present any threat to the rich. The true enemy of the elites are the Middle Class who nip at their heels, have the time, resource and education to object to the elite's transgressions. The poor are more often used by the elites as a stick to control the middle class with than anything else. It's why glowie agencies (no offence!) get the wind up them most when they see movements that get support by both working and middle class than anything else. The "suits and boots" solidarity scares the shit out of them. Which is one reason (amongst several) they attempt to dilute or discourage ethnic grouping so much because it's a natural unifying characteristic across class.

The Council of Sanctuary bullshit continues apace, I suspect tearing back the push behind it will reveal a long list of NGOs that should be treated as hostile actors. The quotes from the various council members are enraging reading
https://archive.ph/vLLzK
What the Hell is a "Council of Sanctuary"? What does it actually mean in real terms?
 
What the Hell is a "Council of Sanctuary"? What does it actually mean in real terms?
It's essentially the equivalent of being one of Stonewall's champions, a scheme they can brag about that essentially says, "we will let activists deem how we should deal with things." I think this sums it up best.
Election campaigns are unique. They are the only time when MPs and political candidates come to your doorstep looking for your vote. So when a political canvasser comes a knocking, what should you do to get the most out of this opportunity?

First off, ensure that you’re prepared. Take a look at the leaflets which come through your door so you know a little bit about the candidates. You could even look at their social media feeds, or if they’re already an MP, look at their voting record. This will help you understand what they stand for and what messages or angles will resonate best with them.

Next, be clear on what you want them to do. We have prepared a useful door hanger setting out Asylum Matter‘s policy asks so you can ask candidates if they will commit to protect the right to seek asylum in the uk. This door hanger will help you state exactly what you’d like to see happen in order to create a fair, kind and workable asylum system. Simply download, print, cut it out and hang it on your door so you’re ready when canvassers come calling.
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Talking about the asylum process can be tough. Entrenched political scapegoating and the divisive nature of culture wars means the truth is often twisted or lost entirely. To help you with these courageous conversations, we’ve set out solid responses to the most common questions and misinformed statements.

It might also be worth preparing a really simple elevator pitch. This should be just a few sentences setting out your major concerns of the day and what solution you see that addresses that concern.

For example: “I’m really concerned about politicians using inflammatory language that emboldens the far right and puts people seeking sanctuary at risk. Will you pledge to not use dehumanizing rhetoric and call it out when others do?”

This isn’t about out debating the other person, it’s about speaking from the heart to explain why this is an issue that means something to us.

For example, “When politicians use dehumanising language, my friends experience more hate. There is a direct correlation. I work with people seeking sanctuary and they report feeling far more scared and unsafe when politicians use this language. Everyone should feel safe in our communities.”

It isn’t always the candidates themselves that knock on doors, they often have teams of volunteers doing it. These volunteers will feed back people’s comments, so it is still worthwhile speaking from the heart. Don’t be afraid to speak to the candidate directly, you never know, they may just be at another house around the corner. Politely ask if you can speak with them, and share your points of view and experiences directly with them.

If you don’t have lived experience of seeking sanctuary yourself, wherever possible, bring in the experiences of people who do. MPs don’t often hear from people who have been through the asylum system, and sometimes hearing from people with this lived experience directly can have the most impact. In 2022, after meeting with a group of people with lived experience, MP Christian Wakeford apologised in the Commons for how he’d spoken about people seeking asylum, “I want to go on record and say what I said was wrong and I am sorry for saying it.”

Finally, the more we talk about these topics with our friends and family, the more easily these conversations with candidates and MPs will come. On the most part, we are not talking about refugee rights enough. Maybe we feel overwhelmed. Maybe we fear how people will respond. But if we’re to build a kinder and fairer world, then we need to get talking.
 
An 85 year old grandpa has got a slap on the wrist after running someone over because she had no insurance (due to South Africans)

A great-grandmother who was found to be uninsured to drive her car when she hit a mum on the school run has escaped a road ban. Frances Peach, 85, failed to see the woman crossing the road - and said she hugged her following the impact.

But when police arrested her, they found Peach did not have any insurance on her Peugeot 107 - which she blamed on a conversation with a call centre worker based 8,000 miles away in South Africa. When quizzed, the pensioner insisted the policy had been ''accidentally'' cancelled by her insurers without her knowledge after she tried to stop her forthcoming automatic renewal, magistrates heard.

Peach had called her insurers to say she would be taking out a cheaper policy with a different company after she was warned she would be charged three times the price on her current premium, Chester magistrates court was told. But she was forwarded to a call handler in South Africa, with the court being told she did not understand him because of his accent.
Following a stilted conversation in broken English, Peach told the advisor 'I just want it cancelled' and ended the call, not realising her existing policy had also been scrapped with ten days to go.

Peach, of Durham Court, Ellesmere Port, admitted careless driving and having no insurance. Her licence was endorsed with six penalty points and she was fined £576, with £360 in costs.

'It drove straight into me'​

The incident occurred at 9am on September 16 last year when the woman was walking home after dropping off her children at school. She said she had stopped on the pavement, checked the roads were all clear and went to cross, but halfway across saw Peach's car turn sharply towards her onto the wrong side of the road.

In a statement, she said: "I just froze. I was more than halfway across the road. It drove straight into me. It hit the right hand side of my body. I went over the vehicle backwards and twisted and landed on my left side. The vehicle drove past after for a good few yards. The female driver did approach me to make sure that I was OK."
Hannah Munnelly, prosecuting, said the woman suffered muscle and deep tissue damage, and was discharged from hospital with strong painkillers.

Ms Munnelly said: "PC Kerry Adams attended at the road traffic collision and spoke directly with Ms Peach, who admitted she did not see [the victim] as she turned into the junction, not until the female was on her bonnet. At that time of the road traffic collision there was no valid insurance in place."

In mitigation, Peach's lawyer Chris Hunt told JPs: "She had paid for a full 12 months insurance and it was due to renew in 10 days after this incident. But you will be very familiar with the ploy on the part of insurance companies over the obligation to sign up for automatic renewal - and when it came along it was three times up from the year before.

"Her daughter is pretty sharp with figures and she said 'no way are you paying this' and she secured a much cheaper renewal. But the problem has arisen because her daughter said 'you need to call your existing insurers to tell them that you do not want it to automatically renew'.

"She rang up the call centre and spoke to someone in South Africa with a pronounced African accent that she was having difficulty understanding and tried to explain that she did not want it automatically renewed.

"She could not understand what he was saying and just said 'I just want it cancelled’ and left it that. On the day in question she had stopped at the junction to turn right and checked there was nothing in front of her but momentary lapse on her part where she has not seen the pedestrian in front of he. She has not cut the corner.

"Happily the police described minor injuries and bruising, but it was still something that upset Ms Peach from the first minute. She pulled up when safe to do so. She was hugging the person who had been knocked over by her. She is very grateful that the injuries were not more serious.

"She was immediately very upset and rang the police and rang for the ambulance. She was entirely cooperative with the police officers. She admitted at the scene that she did not see the pedestrian.

"She then learnt that the call centre customer services advisor had cancelled her insurance policy in its entirety, which left her with no cover whatsoever - despite her having paid for it. This is not a case where she didn’t care about her obligations to other road users or was negligent. You can have a degree of sympathy for a mistake that all of us could fall into, frankly."

Peach herself told the hearing: "I can only say to the lady I was shocked and I did hug her."

How does this work? You run someone over, on the wrong side of the road. And it seems you swerved into them, flipped them over the car.. And it's okay because you gave them a hug and the you cancelled your insurance a week before?

I don't get it. Her insurance is irrelevant to dangerous driving.
 
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