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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Overly Serious]

It felt like he was trying to sabotage his own party somewhat and all of a sudden, the unwavering support for Reform has halted with a huge split emerging.

A split which is a real threat to the nationalist voters if it persists but there is every reason for Reform supporters to jump over to Restore so I don't think it will. IF Restore can get off the ground enough, then the argument of "splitting the vote" will go away because that really is the only strong argument Reform have against it.

This has really caught the Establishment off-guard. Usually takes them about a week or more to really settle on a strategy. Right now they're playing the "Ignore" strategy by default. BBC had one small buried article on all this. Right now the discussion will be if they can exploit the new party as a way to split the Nationalist vote. And I genuinely think they will be foolish enough to take that approach. Same way that Hillary thought promoting Donald Trump as candidate would help secure her the presidency. By the time they realise the miscalculation it'll be too late. Or they could go all in on tarnishing Restore as much as possible from the outset.

I'm actually not concerned about the "split the vote" arguments. People have cottened on to the tactic of "if you don't pick thing you don't like, you'll get thing you really don't like" and are fucking sick of it. In more extreme times, that stops working. People are playing to win now. Not lose more slowly. They realise it's existential.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Policies keep on droppin from Lowe. Spouse visa rules and fees will be relaxed however MANY countries will not have this liberalisation of rules apply, they may be outright banned depending on the final policy. Red List includes Pakistan, Albania, Somalia, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, and more. He wants to allow American, French, Australian, (ie Western), wives and husbands into the country to work and raise a family legally. Visa routes will also be closed for countries with Islamic terrorism

I don’t agree with this as a blanket measure. We’re full. Unless there’s an excellent reason - does it benefit the economy, the country - no more immigration should be allowed. From any country. Last thing we need is idiot yanks and hyper liberal New Zealanders turning up here and demanding to have a say because of their skin colour. Fuck off.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

A split which is a real threat to the nationalist voters if it persists but there is every reason for Reform supporters to jump over to Restore so I don't think it will. IF Restore can get off the ground enough, then the argument of "splitting the vote" will go away because that really is the only strong argument Reform have against it.

This has really caught the Establishment off-guard. Usually takes them about a week or more to really settle on a strategy. Right now they're playing the "Ignore" strategy by default. BBC had one small buried article on all this. Right now the discussion will be if they can exploit the new party as a way to split the Nationalist vote. And I genuinely think they will be foolish enough to take that approach. Same way that Hillary thought promoting Donald Trump as candidate would help secure her the presidency. By the time they realise the miscalculation it'll be too late. Or they could go all in on tarnishing Restore as much as possible from the outset.

I'm actually not concerned about the "split the vote" arguments. People have cottened on to the tactic of "if you don't pick thing you don't like, you'll get thing you really don't like" and are fucking sick of it. In more extreme times, that stops working. People are playing to win now. Not lose more slowly. They realise it's existential.

Honestly Restore is a very interesting situation because as you said, the establishment do not know what to do with it at all.

Do they support it in the hopes of puncturing Reform's lead in the polls? Do they ignore it as they're afraid of people being radicalised? Do they try and get it banned for supporting the death penalty, therefore essentially promoting violence? It's caught them completely off guard and the next few weeks are crucial for them to work out how to tackle it, but as we all know, the establishment works as slow as molasses so by the time they take a definitive stance it could be too late.

The best thing is Reform can't touch it with anything other than vote splitting because if they try and say "Actually pal, that's a little racist" then Reform gets mercilessly cannibalised.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

The Establishment is playing catch up, and it seems that every week Lowe/Restore have something new to post. By the time Kemi, Kier and the journos have got a response to one thing, he's posting the next. I have suspected he has a socmedia manager who is younger but I do think it's mostly him posting, and importantly, replying to all those right wing UK pages like BasiltheGreat and co who have large supporter bases and are throwing themselves behind Lowe.
There's been a load of "lads tell asylum seeker to fuck off and toss a chair at him" videos from high streets and outside bars/pubs recently. I've seen about three in the last week, including one from Ireland. Things are hot.

Unless there’s an excellent reason - does it benefit the economy,

That is part of the proposed checks, do you work here and are you raising children with a British wife/husband. The plan is to crackdown on fraud as well. I hardly doubt there will be a flood of American husbands rushing to come over if the current rules are just simplified/clarified and fees for applying are lowered.
On every single illegal migrant being deported and some clarification, including legal migrants being asked to leave; ''Deportation Poetry'', emphasis is mine. IIRC ultra-high skilled legal migration refers to like, the F1, and research universities hiring the Japanese and shit.

Restore Britain’s immigration policy - the lies and smears have already begun, so here’s the truth.

Illegal migrants. Gone. All of them. Without apology. Every man, every woman. They will all be deported. We have released the most comprehensive deportation policy every produced in Britain. 100 pages of detailed steps to remove every single illegal migrant living in our country.

It is deportation poetry.

This is step one - these miscreants are the priority. The sex pests will be removed, the hotels will close, the flights will begin. I promise you that.

Don’t need to go over it, the British people know my position.

Legal immigration - for the foreseeable future, far more people will leave than enter.

Entire visa routes will be closed off from certain countries that are proven to supply us with sex pests, criminals, illegals, Islamists and the rest.

This is vital. It underpins the entire policy.

Who would be on that red list?

Albania, Pakistan, Somalia, Eritrea, Afghanistan and plenty more.

We will discriminate. We will look at the facts, and then discriminate. Good.

We must understand that legal immigration has done far more damage to Britain than illegal immigration.

So large parts of that must, and will, be reversed.

If a foreign national is entirely unable to speak English, then they will be asked to leave. How can somebody possibly contribute if they cannot communicate? They can’t. They should go home. Thanks, but no thanks.

A foreigner claiming benefits and living in social housing. Again, they will be asked to leave. It is simply not our responsibility to care for these people. I wish them a healthy and happy life, in their own countries.

Watch how that helps to solve our housing crisis overnight…

British social housing for British families.

Foreign criminals gone, day one. No need to even discuss that.

We will not tolerate extremists who wish to do us harm. Foreign Islamists will be deported. Dual national extremists will have their citizenships stripped, and then deported.

If an individual surrenders his second citizenship in an attempt to fraudulently remain in Britain, we will take the necessary steps to reverse that process and deport them. There is a recurring theme here, I am sure you have gathered.

ILR will be abolished in its entirety - the Boriswave will be reversed.

If a country refuses to accept their deported citizens, we will threaten them. Foreign aid, visas, remittances and more. Push to work with the Americans and others. A ‘deportation NATO’. Do it once hard enough, and it won’t have to be done again.

A third-party scheme, like Rwanda, is key. It means that if we cannot ascertain where a foreign national is from for whatever reason, they go to Rwanda. I hear it’s lovely at this time of the year.

We will take a small number of ultra high-skilled migrants - on one condition. It benefits the British people.

Rules and fees around spouse visas will be eased for individuals from non-red list countries. Fraud will be brutally crushed, but hardworking British men and women have every right to bring their foreign spouse to Britain and raise a family. That will be celebrated and encouraged.

Their arrival, and subsequent contribution to Britain, will be a net positive.

In combination with the vast numbers of unproductive migrants being ejected, there will be one winner.

The British people.

How many deportations will all of this result in?

Millions.

If you don’t like that, then Restore Britain is not the party for you.

If you agree, then I hope you will consider joining us.

 

[Overly Serious]

Do they support it in the hopes of puncturing Reform's lead in the polls? Do they ignore it as they're afraid of people being radicalised? Do they try and get it banned for supporting the death penalty, therefore essentially promoting violence? It's caught them completely off guard and the next few weeks are crucial for them to work out how to tackle it, but as we all know, the establishment works as slow as molasses so by the time they take a definitive stance it could be too late.

In War, as in Chess, you win not by your opponent making the wrong choice, but by leaving them no good choices. You've just done a nice list of all the ways each action they might take makes things worse.

And banning it would be the worst of all. As I said to someone recently, the British are like coal. Mediterraneans are like wood - doesn't take so much to start the fire but it goes out once the fuel is gone. Some peoples are more like kindling - goes up at the drop of a hat and burns itself out as quickly. Coal takes a lot to actually get going, but once it does it burns very hot and takes a very long time to cool down. I don't know if it's the climate or the blood but trying to ban Restore would really turn up the heat.

 

[anklyscr]

Eni Aluko

have you seen the astonishing clip of her on heretics?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQHwGUF5Kq4

 

[Hedgehog]

Lowe's gone with "Repeal the GRA", excellent.

https://x.com/RupertLowe10

Rupert Lowe MP

@RupertLowe10

Restore Britain will not pretend that a man wearing a dress is a woman. We’re just not going to do that.We will not deny biological reality, we will not indulge this madness.Men will be banned from women’s sports, categorically and absolutely.Women’s private spaces will be protected, unequivocally. If a man enters a women’s toilet, that will be treated as the invasive act that it is.Biological men will not be placed in women’s prisons, under any circumstances.This filth will be kept away from children. Any teacher or medical professional pushing the idea that a child is born in the wrong body will be sacked, and they will be prosecuted. We will not tolerate it.Any doctor found to have given vulnerable children mutilating surgery or puberty-blocking poison will be struck off and put in prison.That vile flag will be banned from public sector buildings, ESPECIALLY schools.Restore Britain will protect women, and Restore Britain will protect children.Without apology.If you agree, I hope you consider joining our party.

 

[Total Norman Death]

The energy for Lowe & Restore seem great, but will it be meaningful?

 

[Duane Dibbley]

I've been saying here for a long time now - there simply aren't enough people contributing in our society and far too many people detracting.

The changing demographics are heading in completely the wrong direction for sustainability along every metric.

The numbers may not have reflected the full reality yet, and they may not be able to.
Productivity is shot. The low-level manufacturing, factory and warehouse jobs that went to whites, and then poles, are now been given to brownoids. With all racism aside, they cannot do the tasks required of them and need babysitting.

When the polish/slavs came and tuk arr jerbs, they were at least competent and as hard working % wise as the Brits. The browns are just terrible. Lazy, feckless, can't be trained, don't want to be trained and don't want to work. All the while a lad who does want a job, who could do the job competently and contribute, is sat at home claiming dole.

What this means is that we produce less than we have done in a long, long time, not because of a lack of demand, but a lack of competence. Companies cannot replicate the output we had 20 years ago and catalysed by the high NI contributions, they can't hire their way to success anymore. The DEI incentives are concrete galoshes on a manufacturing sector struggling to keep their head above water.

As this continues, factory owners, especially those with <50 staff in a rented small warehouse, will just look at moving abroad, for themselves and for their companies. This has already started and if it continues, the impact...well, you've seen the numbers.

If we lose the manufacturing sector like we lost the coal industry, we are in big trouble. The IT/service cannot carry the weight of half of the population being unemployed.

house ownership is a literal fairy tale for most people.

A shit hole near me knocked up a new housing estate. £350,000 for a new-build 'detached' (lol) house.
Take that money to europe and you can buy a farm. If you work from home, remotely, or only need to be in the office once a month, there's no reason to stay in england.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

manufacturing

Not just low level manufacturing. But more advanced stuff. Anything that goes near government is poisoned and bled out. I wish to avoid PL, but Vickers for example, was absolutely devoured by the governments demands. It whipped them like a fucking dog for years and years until they had to essentially starve all their production beyond what the government demanded, so they could just about break even. The country is anti-business in essentially any form. It's why we never had that 'biotech boom!' that everyone crows about. Why the fuck would anyone do that in the UK? Sure the law is laxer, but you can't make any damn moneyl

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

I haven't had much time to look into the Restore UK stuff, do we know what their policy is when it comes to British Companies firing British people in order to outsource their jobs to third world countries with a minimum wage 1/8th of what it is in Britain is?
This is a more personal issue for me because a company I know a good number of people at has decided to do exactly that in the past few months, effectively cutting their UK workforce by a third for the sake of overseas Umbongos so that money can continue to be drained from our economy.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Or they could go all in on tarnishing Restore as much as possible from the outset.

I think that will be the tactic. As we know voter's memories are short so by next general election Reform and Restore will be seen as fringe loons by a lot of muppets again. The challenge for the media will be maintaining a continual onslaught on Restore while also whining about every Reform run council.

The main reason for that tactic though is that at this point the shift has begun of some influence over to Reform. Be it the familiar faces getting taken in by the money and financers starting to shift to them there was a degree of acceptance that Reform were if not the next government at least had the potential to become a political force. I do not see the powers that be willing to split their influence even further when Reform already represents a risk, they'll destroy Restore first.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

The country is anti-business in essentially any form.

They don't understand business. They don't understand, or actively despise, manufacturing.
Removing the means of production takes away the last bits of power from what's left of the working class.

Once they're gone and the middle class have been squeezed into two groups; those who leave and those who are bound by debt-servitude to stay, you have 3 new classes; The dirt poor third worlders who will vote for gibs, the minority, demoralised servitude class whose votes are worthless, and the ultra-wealthy elite who own the serfs.

 

[Overly Serious]

With all racism aside,

I'll admit to a sensible chuckle at your post which can be summarised as: "At least when the Polish took our jobs, they could do 'em."

A shit hole near me knocked up a new housing estate. £350,000 for a new-build 'detached' (lol) house.
Take that money to europe and you can buy a farm. If you work from home, remotely, or only need to be in the office once a month, there's no reason to stay in england.

A new housing estate that went up near me a builder who worked on them told me the quality was crap and they wouldn't last. Wouldn't shock me to learn that the same company that saved money by cutting corners is the same company that gets the contract for ongoing repair work.

I haven't had much time to look into the Restore UK stuff, do we know what their policy is when it comes to British Companies firing British people in order to outsource their jobs to third world countries with a minimum wage 1/8th of what it is in Britain is?
This is a more personal issue for me because a company I know a good number of people at has decided to do exactly that in the past few months, effectively cutting their UK workforce by a third for the sake of overseas Umbongos so that money can continue to be drained from our economy.

I haven't heard anything but perhaps some Trump style tariffs, they seem to be working for him. And I am well aware that we are not the USA but then we wouldn't be trying to slap tariffs on the whole world. Just on those countries that would otherwise be undercutting us on production. The real challenge would be if we could keep out of any sort of trade war with the EU doing this. I think so?

I think that will be the tactic. As we know voter's memories are short so by next general election Reform and Restore will be seen as fringe loons by a lot of muppets again. The challenge for the media will be maintaining a continual onslaught on Restore while also whining about every Reform run council.

The main reason for that tactic though is that at this point the shift has begun of some influence over to Reform. Be it the familiar faces getting taken in by the money and financers starting to shift to them there was a degree of acceptance that Reform were if not the next government at least had the potential to become a political force. I do not see the powers that be willing to split their influence even further when Reform already represents a risk, they'll destroy Restore first.

They may try. Your logic on what they will attempt is sound. I'm not convinced they will succeed. They have certainly invested in rolling Reform into the Establishment but the voters can switch over easily to a candidate that they prefer. I've said before that a lot of Reform's support isn't voting for them but voting against Labour and the Tories. As evidence, even the Marxists in the Green Party are swelling their numbers. If Lowe can give them a better middle finger to stick to the Establishment, that's who they'll rally behind.

And so far, that middle finger is rising pretty fast.

EDIT: It is not my intention to become the Made in Wales of Restore. This is just my read on things!

 

[the rat]

EDIT: It is not my intention to become the Made in Wales of Restore. This is just my read on things!

Don't worry, I would never think of you like that.

For what it's worth as short as voter memories are I think we have reached a point of no return regarding the lack of acceptance of having either labour or the conservatives as the governing party. My nose is going to bleed from all the hopium, ve vill mvke it brqs. Plqn: TRVSTED.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Lie, damn lies and Liebor.mp4

What a faggot lol
"Ohh nooo, theyz put the charts upside down, m8."

 

[Clem Fandango]

Lowe's gone with "Repeal the GRA", excellent.

Ooh, now that's based.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

What irks me is how Nigel Farage has just... disappeared over the past 6 months. He used to be everywhere up until Reform were 10 points ahead of everyone else in the polls then just magically disappeared. Now he makes a quip every few weeks and that's that.

He could have sunk Starmer by saying "I'm fully in support of Keir Starmer as I believe he's the best choice for Labour in order for Reform to gain a total majority in the next election", he could have brought up the grooming gangs enquiry, he could have pointed out that removing jury trials was undemocratic, he could have done literally anything but his consultancy work abroad.

It's like he shit his pants the moment it became apparent that he might actually get in power and would have to do things, hence the direct sabotaging by bringing in wet Tories. Jendrick is absolutely the Farage replacement if he steps down, and he absolutely will. I'm betting "heart murmur" or some shit like that so he can slink away from politics after getting too close to the sun.

 

[Sunshine Annie]

based.

Unless rayner has gone full bonnie blue on the back benchers, I can't see her getting a sniff of power.

Labour won't make a woman party leader, and definitely not PM. Shocking they don't get called out on it enough by their supporters, given their opposite has given us 3 women in the PM seat.

 

[evrae]

Not just low level manufacturing. But more advanced stuff. Anything that goes near government is poisoned and bled out. I wish to avoid PL, but Vickers for example, was absolutely devoured by the governments demands. It whipped them like a fucking dog for years and years until they had to essentially starve all their production beyond what the government demanded, so they could just about break even. The country is anti-business in essentially any form. It's why we never had that 'biotech boom!' that everyone crows about. Why the fuck would anyone do that in the UK? Sure the law is laxer, but you can't make any damn moneyl

Can confirm that we didn't and will not have any sort of biotech or research boom. I know that personally.
The companies here live in spite of the government trying to kill it all, if they haven't already either sold themselves for a tidy early retirement, or moved entirely to the US.

The only way you find a job in this sector is genuinely by knowing the right people, because there's fuck-all money to fund you, it's even worse now that the gov has cut a lot of funding from UKRI and the MRC.