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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Anyway, lads, I just want you all to know when I'm slowly bleeding out after some African has macheted me trying to steal my phone and my daughter has been gang raped by Afghans, I will die with a smile on my face knowing no one is calling @Made In Wales and Nigel Farage a racist.
 
FedPostalService said:
Anyway, lads, I just want you all to know when I'm slowly bleeding out after some African has macheted me trying to steal my phone and my daughter has been gang raped by Afghans, I will die with a smile on my face knowing no one is calling @Made In Wales and Nigel Farage a racist.
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It's not people like me who will judge you, it's the unenlightened ones who don't use the 'Farms.

We know what the problem is, but if Nigel were to openly say 'all migrants are scumbags who will be deported' then whilst he'd still score highly with some, it'd be the equivalent of throwing meat to a pack of wolfhounds and the powers-that-be would crank up their efforts to destroy Reform UK - even doing their best to legally ban the party from standing.

I get that people aren't happy with Zahawi, I'm not going to change people's minds and initially I thought it was a dicey decision - however, let's look at what Zahawi is (other than a darkie):

* Pro Brexit
* Pro low tax, high growth
* A member of the Privy Council

He's been slated as Reform UK's future Chancellor of the Exchequer.

True, he does come with a lot of baggage, and there are a lot of question marks against him because of this. Nevertheless, it's Nigel's decision, and as such the party has to go along with it.

If I were Nigel, would Zahawi have been on my radar? No, I'd have gone for a SIr Richard Branson or Michael Moritz type of businessman who understands commerce, finance and the need to have a free market with libertarian values. Maybe even somebody like Peter McCormack, if Reform UK were going to be serious about Crypto, but as it is overall Zahawi could be a good gamble if Nigel is going to go down the Thatcher route of low tax and high yields.

I'm not going to lose sleep over the appointment - yes, it does give ammo to those who say that Reform UK are becoming the new Muslim Party, but then if we are does that then mean that the party has conquered Labour's last remaining hope and vote base? If so, how long until Muslims become the new Jews for backing 'Evil Fascist Nazi Nigel.'

In time, yes, I'd like more White than non-White faces here and I believe that it can be done but the Zoomer 'I want it now' mentality is not going to win the day - only by going in for the long haul have we got anywhere near half a chance of winning, and don't forget that if elected as Government there will be an instant war with the EU and we'll also somehow have to win back Russia as an ally one day.

The option on the table is the chance of a good future with Nigel or no future with Keir.

Also, don't bet against a few Labour Brexit backers like Graham Stringer joining Reform UK.
 
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Made In Wales said:
let's look at what Zahawi is (other than a darkie):
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Lets look at everything except the actual problem?

You think the general public is some passive liberal twat and they aren't. Big Baz wants those twats gone and having a party full of them is suicide for Reform. I would take the Monster Raving Looney party over Reform at this point. No one wants "an experienced paki who knows the system". They want the foreigners strung up like Nigel has your bollocks and the system completely tearing down and replaced.

I think you're a good lad Welsh. But you're making excuses for Reform betraying the British public here. Go get a cuppa and a biscuit and have a think mate. Either we're taking our country back or we're a multiracial party where the next leader is another paki or nog just like the tories.

The future is a muslim country with Reform or a Muslim country with Labour. Nigel isn't offering us a future, he's offering us a comfortable pillow to lay on while the camel shits on us and the dogs take turns on our kid's arseholes.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
Lets look at everything except the actual problem?

You think the general public is some passive liberal twat and they aren't. Big Baz wants those twats gone and having a party full of them is suicide for Reform. I would take the Monster Raving Looney party over Reform at this point. No one wants "an experience paki who knows the system". They want the foreigners strung up like Nigel has your bollocks.

I think you're a good lad Welsh. But you're making excuses for Reform betraying the British public here. Go get a cuppa and a biscuit and have a think mate. Either we're taking our country back or we're a multiracial party where the next leader is another paki or nog just like the tories.
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I agree that we have to take our country back, but we also have to have people in place within the party who have experience of Parliament and can also be assets.

Zahawi backs what Reform UK wants, he doesn't think that stopping the boats is wrong, and as I've already said it's Nigel's call.

Yes, I would do these the things you want and more if I were the leader of Reform UK, but whether or not I'd get enough support for doing this would remain to be seen. Personally, I'd support burning down the BBC which would either get me imprisoned for hate speech or 55% of the vote overnight.

As already already stated, Nigel IMO is the beginning of solving the problems - we will need a candidate further to the right of Nigel to then oversee the transformation of the UK back to what it should be.

Think of Nigel as a short-term PM (like Douglas-Home) he won't do more than two years and then it'll be up to a younger candidate to become a three term PM who will move Reform UK to the right as people then naturally also move right en masse because of the Overton Window. Then, anything is possible and it is doable - remember that the Government of 2015 looked a lot different in 2019 after three General Elections in under four years.

You want the migrants gone, so do I, but we need to walk before we run - total migrant death on here is something we can agree on, but in the outside world this would face severe challenges and we'd have to fight a war with the EU etc. in order to win freedom. This means begging Trump to save our arses as our military currently is weaker than Fosters lager.

You're a good lad too, I don't want this to become a dog-pile either way, and I do see and respect what others are saying, but I think we need to approach this with pragmatism and sense as well as the determination to make the UK a great country again. I will not lie, it'll take 20-25 years to get us to the place where people think we will somehow instantly be on day one of Farage's premiership.

Besides, I'd be way more worried if Blair or Starmer were going to join Reform UK!
 
I have absolutely no problem pretending to cosy up with browns, especially the rich cunt ones, more fool them; they do it enough with natives already and it's simply a winning strategy. The Long Knifes can wait till practicality rears it's head.
 
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So when will all the posting of the British Governments own propaganda get labeled a naughty hate crime and have the fuzz come beat down your door?

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That's IF they can get any officers to go out, a lot of them are off with mental health problems.

Anyway, FA Cup 4th Round draw anybody?

Liverpool or Barnsley vs Brighton
Stoke City vs Fulham
Oxford United vs Sunderland
Southampton vs Leicester City
Wrexham vs Ipswich Town
Arsenal vs Wigan Athletic
Hull City vs Chelsea
Burton Albion vs West Ham United
Burnley vs Mansfield Town
Norwich City vs West Bromwich Albion
Port Vale vs Bristol City
Grimsby Town vs Wolverhampton Wanderers
Aston Villa vs Newcastle
Manchester City vs Salford City or Swindon Town
Macclesfield vs Brentford
Leeds vs Birmingham City

Loads of fans on X and TalkSport screaming 'FIX!'
 
ITT Made in Wales excuses yet another paki in Reform because reasons.
Remember Farage got down on his knees and begged the Chair not to leave the party last summer because he's a paki, and one of the largest doners to Reform.
Also remember Farage almost tore the party apart and isolated non-pakis.
 
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ITT Made in Wales excuses yet another paki in Reform because reasons.
Remember Farage got down on his knees and begged the Chair not to leave the party last summer because he's a paki, and one of the largest doners to Reform.
Also remember Farage almost tore the party apart and isolated non-pakis.
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As I said, I'm not that pleased, but I can see why Nigel has made the appointment.

Anyway, at least we are holding our own in the polls and not crashing into oblivion like Labour.

We also do need the money, as do other parties, and when Labour suffer financially due to the loss of their Union subs then they'll struggle to stay afloat. The likes of Dale Vince will also refuse to fund them because of Palestine and the woke grift money will be going elsewhere (Greens or Lib Dems).

This is where Reform UK should be called 'The Balancing Act Party' - balancing keeping voters who are loyal to Nigel and whom want migrants gone etc. whilst also encouraging people with business and political experience to join the party. Again, don't forget the many Labour defections to Reform UK at Council level - Socialists who have had enough of Starmer who have crossed over.

In an ideal world, Reform UK would have the balls to do what many have suggested, but until they control the narrative then it is going to be difficult to accomplish. Despite losing money hand over fist, the BBC and MSM still sadly have clout, power and sway - once this is gone, then it will be a lot easier as the woke society will be virtually flattened and with the mic in our hands we'll control the game and we'll be in charge of deciding what society should be.

Reform UK also cannot just be 'The Nigel Farage Party' in the same way that the Tories became 'The Margaret Thatcher Party' in the 80s and Labour became 'The Tony Blair Party' in the 90s. There has to be more to Reform UK than just Nigel and it's no use planning for just five years, we have to plan 10, 20, maybe even 50 years ahead from today as Reform UK winning power is not just going to be a flash in the pan thing (we hope) but the start of a societal change not seen since 1945 and the rebuilding of the country after World War II.

Over the next few days and weeks, the Shadow cabinet Reform UK Government is going to be announced - it won't be to everybody's taste but it shows that we're ready whenever the day comes to challenge for office and to end the LibLabCon era of bloated and toxic uniparty governance.
 
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If you think so...
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You wrote an essay (and not for the first time), twisting yourself in mental gymnastics in order to explain why you support a party filled with non-brits, as your St. Farage takes taxpayer money to not turn up and do his job.
UKIP exists and it's got less pakis and doesn't have that parasite Farage in it anymore thank god.
 
My biggest problem with Nigel right now is his very obvious desire to be populist, and he risks neutering the party with constant defections. Reform looks weaker with every career politician joining. Too many cooks.

I still currently intend on voting Reform because the UK is fucked, and harsh measures against immigration is surely the dominant voting factor for the foreseeable future.

We can't live like this.

Too many fucking useless immigrants, simple as. Not every garage needs to be exclusively staffed by pajeet, his brother and his brother's wife's rapist.

Also, haven't done any research, but if we taxed poultry more than pork and beef, maybe we could actually push our trolleys in peace through Asda instead of constantly having to drift at 230 degree angles at half eleven at night to swerve around Manjula and her six kids of varying odours.
 
CaptainAutism69 said:
You wrote an essay (and not for the first time), twisting yourself in mental gymnastics in order to explain why you support a party filled with non-brits, as your St. Farage takes taxpayer money to not turn up and do his job.
UKIP exists and it's got less pakis and doesn't have that parasite Farage in it anymore thank god.
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Fine, then vote for UKIP.

If you want to stay angry at me for backing Reform UK, that is your issue.

Just look at which party is leading the polls - like it or not, like Farage or not, Reform UK is winning the popular vote.

Let's see what the alternative is to Reform UK:

* Labour staying in power and removing every human right we have
* Tories somehow retaining power and fucking things up yet again
* Ed Davey and Zach Polanski become joint PM's and we re-join the failed EU project

Which option do you choose?

UKIP, Britain First etc. do not have the level of support which Reform UK now do - it's like comparing Brentford with Boreham Wood. I only wish that the right would wholly unite and personally I'd have no issue with Paul Golding or Ashlea Simon leading a future party of the right, but some would, same as some don't want Stephen Yaxley-Lennon to ever be an MP.

At least with my 'essays' I try to make a pragmatic point rather than go 'waah Farage is a poohead' like some do because they think it's 'rad' and 'right on' without stating:

* Who realistically would make a better PM than Nigel
* Who could beat Starmer, Badenoch, Davey, Polanski etc. in polls for consecutive weeks
* Who will stop the migrants, lower taxes and make us a decent country again

*CRICKETS*

All very easy to criticise Nigel (and no, he isn't perfect) yet those who do usually have no answers to the important question of 'if not him, then realistically who?'

Rupert Lowe - if he was younger then maybe, but approaching 70 and will likely stand down at the next GE.

Andrew Bridgen - no longer an MP, would divide people's opinions but a decent man.

Robert Jenrick - yes, but only if he was the leader of the Tories. Alas they blew it.

Paul Golding - not an MP and has no chance of winning a seat unless Reform UK stand aside in Nuneaton or Tamworth, and they certainly won't stand aside,

Laurence Fox - no chance.

David Kurten - nice enough guy, not got the clout that Nigel has, therefore no.

TLDR - like it or lump it, but only Reform UK can take on the big guns and win.

@Sir Keir Starmer Agreed, it's far from perfect, but sadly I'm not Nigel and ultimately if he wants Zahawi in then that's what will happen. I doubt it will affect the polling and if he is going to stand as a future Chancellor of the Exchequer (which I believe is the plan) then at least he does have experience of office. There is a lot wrong with him, which personally I find unsettling, but if Nigel's plan is to put a Thatcherite 'low tax high growth' Chancellor in place then yes he'd make a good appointment on paper at least.
 
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