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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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A rat can press a button to get a treat. Doesn't mean it understands the mechanism. Just that it will defend that mechanism.
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Little does he know...

I've actually been seeing this whole "Evropa needs to ban X now now now now NOW NOW NOW" for about a few weeks or so now before this whole Grok debacle, I wonder how much these queers get paid to sit on their shitty little facebook marketplace couch posting "I HATE X I HATE IT I HATE IT TRUMP IS EVIL AND STARMER IS /ourguy/" on their contract phone.
 
@Product Placement You sound like a fucking glowie.

As for the X thing, from looking online, there has been no evidence of it so far, and any test runs I have seen people do with Grok with a minor, Grok denies. Also, this is not CP; it is generative, and no one has suffered for it. It is slimy, yes, pedos should die, but I am not taking Labour's bait on this.

Keith, if you fucking cared about kids and women, then you would have ordered a full enquiry into the clear evidence of grooming gangs. There are thousands of accounts. All this is because you are petrified of being toppled, you are scared of people spamming "you're a cunt". You are also petrified that it mobilises your opposition.

I am telling you, if this goes through, there will be riots and fucking good. This pedo defending, islam cock sucking cunt needs to receive a message, not to fuck with free speech.

I am beyond sick and fucking tired of hearing about fictional kids potentially being raped or whatever when it is happening only to white people. I will say this does feel very much like the last days of Nero, though. If you see Keith in interviews as of late, the fucker is unravelling.
 
I could turn this around and ask why the usual suspects who claim to be the great women's rights champions like Graham Linehan or his gf JK Rowling are silent about Twitter's CP and non-consensual porn problem.

If it was any other site I'm sure Jo and Glin would be on the case but because it's their lord and savior Elon Musk they're happy to turn a blind eye?
Maybe because they've never seen it? I mean I'm certainly not going to go on X and test out how easy it is to undress children so I'm sort of relying on information from people who are absolutely retarded. 'NAZI PAEDOPHILE FACIST GENOCIDE WEBSITE X!'

I would assume that Musk, in spite of being a massive weird cunt, does not actually want his platform to be riddled with kiddy porn and therefore I would assume that they will try and fix any exploits. Likewise I would assume your average X enjoyer would leave the place pretty quick if naked children were showing up on their morning doom scroll.
 

So this story just broke from the Telegraph

One of Britain’s largest NHS trusts employed Pakistani doctors as cheap labour, the BMJ has revealed.

An investigation by the medical journal discovered that the doctors, who paid no tax, came to the UK as “international training fellows” (ITF) and worked at places including the University Hospitals Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust (UHB).

The inquiry uncovered evidence from the fellows, doctors, and a lawyer that they were being exploited through an agreement under which they were employed through third party organisations. This meant they could be paid less than doctors employed directly by trusts.

A review by KPMG of the £40.5m programme at UHB confirmed that the trust, which has more than 20,000 employees, had no idea how much of the money it paid the third parties went to the Pakistani doctors.

It also found evidence of undeclared hospitality on overseas recruitment trips worth tens of thousands of pounds, and that as many as two thirds of the 600 doctors who went through the scheme were now working in Britain, even though the UK is barred from taking medics from “red list” countries such as Pakistan.

Trust ‘resetting’ international programmes​

UHB confirmed to the BMJ that it was “resetting” all its international training fellowship programmes, and had cut ties with the College of Physicians and Surgeons Pakistan, which had supplied most of the 700-plus doctors to the scheme. The remaining 101 “fellows” had now been offered jobs as locally employed doctors, the trust said.

Kiran Patel, the UHB chief medical officer, who ordered a review into the workings of the scheme after his arrival at the trust in 2024, acknowledged that mistakes had been made, but added that there was “no suggestion, or findings, of impropriety or fraud by any trust employee”.

Under the scheme, which ran from 2017 to 2025, UHB paid a monthly stipend to the Pakistani doctors through a small company operating from a residential address in Birmingham. In 2025, the last year the scheme operated, the stipend paid for each ITF was £3,960 a month, equivalent to £47,520 a year.

Over the eight years of the scheme, a total of £40.5m was paid by UHB to Scholar and Trainee Services Ltd, which managed the contributions on behalf of colleges in Pakistan and one college in India.

However, the trust had no contract or agreement with the company, did not receive invoices, and had no oversight of the money passed on to individual doctors.

The review found that none of the doctors had paid tax on the income earned while working at UHB, based on legal advice that they were students, not employees. KPMG believed this was unlikely to be correct, as they were providing a similar level of service as resident doctors.

Criminal record checks missed​

The review also found that UHB had also failed to carry out pre-employment checks on the fellows, including routine criminal record checks – an oversight that the trust says is has now rectified.

The auditors were told there were also undeclared recruitment trips by UHB staff, particularly to Pakistan. They commonly lasted up to two weeks, during which time staff were provided with food and accommodation.

KPMG found that this hospitality was not declared under the trust’s conflict of interest policies, and was not consistently recorded or scrutinised.

Since 2017, trips to Pakistan cost the trust £122,564.50, including a single visit in May 2024 that cost almost £20,000.

Responding to KPMG, the trust said: “We have a number of channels where such expenses can and should be declared, including travel costs. We do not have a specific travel policy; however, we will be developing one early in 2026.”

A trust spokesman added: “A number of actions need to be taken which are complex and will continue to take time to work through.” They could not confirm whether any staff would face disciplinary action over the management of the scheme.

Surprise fucking Surprise University Hospitals Birmingham is being corrupt as fuck again. If any of you here have had the joy of working for this amazing organisation where they prioritise Pakis, don't follow protocol and even help trafficking. All these fuckers were tax-free too, costing millions.

This, on top of a story breaking that illegals are being prioritised over for therapy in NHS queues. Which is hypocritical as fuck considering Labour want to put young people back into work with mental health issues. So what is it, Keith?

Even Reddit was disgusted by this, fucking Reddit.
 
Maybe because they've never seen it? I mean I'm certainly not going to go on X and test out how easy it is to undress children so I'm sort of relying on information from people who are absolutely retarded. 'NAZI PAEDOPHILE FACIST GENOCIDE WEBSITE X!'

I would assume that Musk, in spite of being a massive weird cunt, does not actually want his platform to be riddled with kiddy porn and therefore I would assume that they will try and fix any exploits. Likewise I would assume your average X enjoyer would leave the place pretty quick if naked children were showing up on their morning doom scroll.
What if the people up in arms about CSAM on twitter are only seeing it in their feed because they have gone looking for it previously? I keep getting shite about mods and Paul Weller because I viewed a tweet about Sleaford Mods being shit, I've never seen any naked kids.

Did get grokified Angela Rayner in a bikini yesterday though. A challenging wank, to be sure.
 
The whores that are moaning that they're being put in bikinis are such cancer. They love the attention and the gov are just using this to fuck us all up the arse and censor us.
Yeah, I don't know enough about AI to really weigh in on this, but I've definitely seen a few hoes posting their own grok shoops of themselves on Twitter and saying "oh no, look at this!". I even saw one posting a picture of herself as a child and shopping it with grok to have a bikini on, and it's like, luv, what are you doing? I know women crave the precious attention juice, but seriously fuck off already.

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Did get grokified Angela Rayner in a bikini yesterday though. A challenging wank, to be sure.

Sorry to be the one to tell you this, but that was real.
 
You sound like a fucking glowie.
I was beginning to think that too. We all agree here that cheese pizza enthusiasts should get the wood chipper.

What is strange is the sudden rash of posters trusting a government to ban and censor the Internet when we all have to have turbo nonce levels of opsec because that same government would have the police kick down our door and put us in jail for for disagreeing with government policy using naughty words.

There’s either policemen or utter retards (I admit, they can both be the same) in this thread as surely no person with normal intellect can see the establishment, who have covered up foreign rape gangs on an industrial scale, are not being honest when they are screeching “won’t someone think of the children?”

This is about controlling you. If the price of freedom is some annoying bint in HR has a picture of her generated in a fucking bikini (wow, such levels of depravity, that’s what we are actually talking about here, not actual porn) them so be it.

Total Glowie Death.
 
I'm astonished that anyone with an account on KF, a site that the blob-controlled quango OFCOM wants to ban us from being able to access, is advocating for the blob-controlled quango OFCOM to ban us from being able to access X.

These aren't good people, motivated by concern for The Children, they are ideologically motivated Fabian maniacs who won't rest until the entire native population is replaced by 85iq mystery meat they can rule over as the new politburo. Imagine a hemp sandal stamping on a mulatto face - forever
 
Surprise fucking Surprise University Hospitals Birmingham is being corrupt as fuck again.
Like the rest of Brum, it’s corrupt and bankrupt to its core. Unsurprising that this happened, especially as it sounds like a bit of an old boys’ network (or the Pakistani version of it).

Besides that, what about the standard of care for the patients they saw? I wouldn’t trust one of these ‘doctors’ as far as I could throw them, but I don’t suppose there will ever be a review of their work and outcomes.

The NHS is becoming a ‘take your own life into your own hands’ thing. God help you if you can’t advocate for yourself and do your own basic care, obs and meds in hospital. Time and again I want to defend the NHS but it really is a shitshow now. Random, untrained staff moving between wards and very little reliable teams who know what each other are doing. And plenty don’t seem to give a shit, either. It’s really worrying.

If you have family or friends in hospital, spend as much time with them as you can! Bring them food and drink, bathe them, hell, bring them any meds they have, at least they’ll be guaranteed to get them. Know the basics like how to take a pulse, breathing rate, bp (assuming the machine’s in the room). Make sure their toileting is being taken care of (help if you can). Check bedding is clean and comfortable. Check for pressure points if the person is immobile. Please don’t leave it to staff, because so many are overworked, under trained, or just have no clue/forget. My last stay in hospital terrified me, for the level of care I was (not) given. I genuinely would’ve been safer at home.

I wonder how many other NHS trusts have little schemes like the one in Birmingham?
 
Is the People's Museum in Manchester still commie pilled? I went last March and it had a banner for fucking Stalin. Insane.

Also, while AI CP is fucked up, the kids aren't real, and nobody's being harmed. Kier would rather ban that than actual kids being anally molested by Ali and Uncle John. Insanity. This country is FUCKED.
 
I could turn this around and ask why the usual suspects who claim to be the great women's rights champions like Graham Linehan or his gf JK Rowling are silent about Twitter's CP and non-consensual porn problem.

If it was any other site I'm sure Jo and Glin would be on the case but because it's their lord and savior Elon Musk they're happy to turn a blind eye?

This is such a fucking boring counter argument. You sound like a troon. This is exactly their tactic.

Oh you don't want me wanking in women's toilets? Well why aren't you saying anything about Palestine if you care so much?

Why the fuck should anyone in particular who isn't a politician be expected to be making grandstanding public statements on every bad thing happening this week?

It's not their problem to fix or something they need to say anything about. You're not "turning around" anything with this shite.
 
@Product Placement You sound like a fucking glowie.

As for the X thing, from looking online, there has been no evidence of it so far, and any test runs I have seen people do with Grok with a minor, Grok denies.nd no one has suffered for it. It is slimy, yes, pedos should die, but I am not taking Labour's bait on this.

Keith, if you fucking cared about kids and women, then you would have ordered a full enquiry into the clear evidence of grooming gangs. There are thousands of accounts. All this is because you are petrified of being toppled, you are scared of people spamming "you're a cunt". You are also petrified that it mobilises your opposition.

I am telling you, if this goes through, there will be riots and fucking good. This pedo defending, islam cock sucking cunt needs to receive a message, not to fuck with free speech.

I am beyond sick and fucking tired of hearing about fictional kids potentially being raped or whatever when it is happening only to white people. I will say this does feel very much like the last days of Nero, though. If you see Keith in interviews as of late, the fucker is unravelling.
If you want evidence here is a page for you https://kiwifarms.st/threads/grok-takes-a-foray-into-non-consensual-pornography-and-csam.236594/
Thankfully nothing illegal posted in the thread, and reported not just based on the UK, so your hatred for Kier Starmer, doesn't have to play a role in defending this shit. You can be normal be against both.

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Also, this is not CP; it is generative, and no one has suffered for it
makes you seem like a pedo, it is 100% child porn, while it might cause less suffering then none generative child porn, it still causes some level of suffereing. But to be kind to you, I am glad you least agree pedos should die, which makes me believe you just worded that very badly.

Musk letting his AI make child porn is not free speech. Hell his platform wouldn't be under any risk if he just sorted shit out even if the power at be hate twitter and would rather see it gone, as I said before the gov will be using this as a legit reason to go after him even if they want twitter gone for other reasons, but his retardation has give them that reason. Just remove the generative ai until you have fixed the problem then bring it back, but he can't help dig his own grave.
 
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Musk letting his AI make child porn is not free speech. Hell his platform wouldn't be under any risk if he just sorted shit out even if the power at be hate twitter and would rather see it gone. Just remove the generative ai until you have fixed the problem then bring it back, but he can't help dig his own grave.

How are you so confident it hasn't been sorted out? Are people still able to make these images using Grok AI?
 
How are you so confident it hasn't been sorted out? Are people still able to make these images using Grok AI?
going off the thread I posted, it doesn't seem he has. all he has done it make it a paid feature and seems to be unwilling ot admit the issue instead framing it all as an attack of freespeech.
 
going off the thread I posted, it doesn't seem he has. all he has done it make it a paid feature and seems to be unwilling ot admit the issue instead framing it all as an attack of freespeech

Musk framed the idea of banning X as an attack on free speech, not restricting the type of content his AI can produce. His AI already has plenty of restrictions. You're not being entirely honest about this.

You're demanding that something must be done, but it seems to me that unless people are still able to generate sexualised images of children, something has been done?

AIs have their guardrails modified all the time doesn't it seem likely to you that this has already been done in this case?
 
The USA can't even exert their will against Afghanistan solely through military power. The military component was critical, but to actually control the country required suborning of local peoples, buying off local warlords to serve as proxies and, to be blunt, ignoring large parts of the country and sitting in Kabul.
There's a proverb that comes to mind "When fish are fighting, the British are nearby"

That's the fundamental difference between American and British foreign policy, Britain knows it has to play groups against each other in order to maintain control, America is the bigger fish that thinks stopping the fish from fighting will mean they will get along.
 
I haven't seen anything that says this CP thing on X is true. I've seen uggos complaining that they're in bikinis and thots asking Grok to put them in one to drive their OnlyFans simp pages. But nothing about CP. Its almost like its a tactic to ban free speech and is a psy op by Keith.
 
Right, I've just fired up Grok and tried to get it to make some regular good old fashioned pornography. It won't. It flat out refuses. Anything I've been able to make would not get you a ban on Instagram. Also, when using government ministers as models, once it animates you can clearly tell it is not that person. It's like they've hired a lookalike.

This is a nothing burger and is fake and gay.

Fuck off, glowies.
 
Last year, you could make actual AI of people like Rayner and Starmer. They've cucked it now though. Funnily enough, there was no outrage about that. I wonder why? Its almost like in late 2024, Labour's honeymoon phase hadn't ended yet, and people weren't complaining.
 
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