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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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The German insurance system runs pretty well. Maybe after we get the trains to run on time and resettle the boat monkeys in the east we can change to that.
Bloody hell, trains on time? You want the moon on a stick or what? Getting the fucking things to run at all would be a hell of an achievement.

I've lived in the States, have family and friends there, and have dealt with healthcare there.

It's far from perfect but it is infinitely better than here.
Ah, see, the only dealings I’ve had with the US system is via family that live there, and it always seems a bit frightening to me. You get seen quickly, but you have to be on top of who takes your insurance, who does what where etc, and what’s covered and what isn’t (as well as how much it might affect future premiums). Maybe it’s my lack of experience with the system talking. My experience with private healthcare in the U.K. hasn’t been great, although I know it works for some issues and some people.

As for your other statements, well, you might think that but I couldn’t possibly comment.
 
We are accidentally eating vegan cheese and, may allah forgive me for saying this, it’s actually not that bad.
Some of it is alright, so long as you don't think of it as cheese. That's the problem with a lot of vegetarian food - if it stopped pretending to be something it isn't, a lot of it would be fine. There's a vegan restaurant I know and their menu is nothing but meat dishes with some crappy vegan alternative fake hyper-processed substitute instead. If I'm cooking a vegetarian meal I approach it as a vegetarian meal. I don't think "oh, I'll stick some facon on top instead", I think "okay so lets do something with some beans or lentils in there for half the proteins, I'll want some grains for the other half, lets marinate some mushrooms to add a little savour..."

Vegetarian food shouldn't be meat food without the meat. Otherwise you just think "where's the meat?"
 
Some of it is alright, so long as you don't think of it as cheese. That's the problem with a lot of vegetarian food - if it stopped pretending to be something it isn't, a lot of it would be fine. There's a vegan restaurant I know and their menu is nothing but meat dishes with some crappy vegan alternative fake hyper-processed substitute instead. If I'm cooking a vegetarian meal I approach it as a vegetarian meal. I don't think "oh, I'll stick some facon on top instead", I think "okay so lets do something with some beans or lentils in there for half the proteins, I'll want some grains for the other half, lets marinate some mushrooms to add a little savour..."

Vegetarian food shouldn't be meat food without the meat. Otherwise you just think "where's the meat?"
I genuinely prefer a nut roast over dry turkey for xmas dinner. Family wont buy it though cos its poofy vegetarian shite and they havent mastered the art of saying no homo before engaging in homosexual acts.
 
In an article impressively idiotic even by their standards the Guardian asks the question, "why are countries that want reparations more willing to talk about it than the countries they expect to pay them?"

A little while ago, I was interviewed for a forthcoming book about reparations by a black British comedian and his co-writer. I approached it with modest expectations. It is a serious subject for me as a Caribbean man, and I wondered whether the complexity might be flattened or trivialised in the process.
I got to read the book this week. In The Big Payback, Lenny Henry and Marcus Ryder take a complex, controversial and deeply contested subject and do something both rare and necessary: they break it down into its constituent parts and explain – debunking and demystifying along the way – why so many of the stock objections to reparations are intellectually incoherent, historically illiterate or politically evasive.

They manage this without sacrificing rigour or warmth, weaving careful analysis with Henry’s trademark humour, a red pea soup recipe and even a short play – reminding the reader that moral seriousness and creative generosity are not mutually exclusive.
Slavery was not an unfortunate moral aberration. It was an economic system that catapulted Britain’s rise … but left enduring inequalities in its wake
As 2025 draws to a close, the book has landed at a moment when the subject of reparations, long treated as a fringe or rhetorical issue in Europe, has caught fire elsewhere. It is difficult to deny that this has been a pivotal year for the global reparations movement – not because any consensus has been reached, but because the question itself has been mobilised.

On one side, Caribbean states, African governments and diaspora movements are consolidating claims. On the other, Britain continues to blithely bat the issue away. The gap between the two positions is now the story.
In November, the Caricom Reparations Commission, led by Sir Hilary Beckles, visited the UK. The delegation met civil society groups, academics, churches, activists and some parliamentarians. The reception at Westminster was distinctly underwhelming. There were no senior ministers available, no commitment to talks and no indication that reparations would be treated as a live policy question by the British government.
It would be easy to read this as a snub – and many in the Caribbean do. But it is important to recognise what the visit achieved: dialogue was opened; reparations were discussed not as an abstract moral plea but as a concrete political claim rooted in law, economics and history. Even limited access helped mobilise the call. Silence, after all, is not the same as stasis.
When asked previously about reparations, Keir Starmer made it clear that his government would not be drawn into what he described as “long, endless discussions about reparations on the past”. The prime minister’s phrasing matters. It frames reparations as indulgent and backward-looking rather than as a claim arising from the foundations of the modern British state.

This is precisely the framing that The Big Payback examines. Henry and Ryder insist reparations are not about guilt or inherited blame, but about historical responsibility and contemporary advantage. Slavery was not an unfortunate moral aberration. It was an economic system that financially catapulted Britain’s rise and shaped its institutions but left enduring inequalities in its wake throughout the global south. Inequalities that still exist today manifesting within a broader spectrum of racism. To deny reparations is to deny historical causality.
The tired refrain that “no one alive today owned slaves” is beside the point when states, corporations, financial institutions and landed estates persist as legal and economic entities that directly benefited from enslavement. The claim that reparations would be too complex collapses under the weight of historical precedents – from Holocaust reparations to post-colonial compensation schemes – while the fear that reparations would be socially destabilising is exposed as a projection rooted more in political discomfort than empirical evidence.
Reparations cannot remain an emotional argument and are not a single cheque, but a long-term process aimed at repairing systems as much as compensating people. At last there are signs of the issue being taken seriously, with some looking at how reparations might work: through investment in education and health, institutional reform, wealth-building mechanisms, cultural repair and apologies backed by material commitments.
Reparations are a long-term process aimed at repairing systems as much as compensating people
The African Union (AU) declared 2025 to be the Year of Reparations, putting the issue at the centre of its collective agenda for the first time. Leaders, civil society organisations and diaspora movements came together to affirm that this was not a symbolic demand, but a matter of justice, dignity and development.
African leaders quickly recognised that one year was not enough. In July 2025, the AU formally endorsed 2026–36 as the Decade of Reparations. This 10-year commitment builds on decades of intellectual and political groundwork – from the Abuja proclamation of 1993, through the Durban declaration and programme of action in 2001, to the Accra declarations of 2022 and 2023.
Over the next decade, the AU has committed to mobilising global support, working with civil society and the diaspora, promoting education and research and developing policies around the lasting impacts of slavery, colonialism and exploitation.
In this context, Britain’s insistence on “moving forward” begins to look out of step. While Africa and the Caribbean are institutionalising reparations as a development and justice agenda, the former colonial metropoles remain stuck at the level of avoidance. The result is an asymmetry: one side is building frameworks while the other is offering silence.

This asymmetry is reinforced by the hollowing out of the Commonwealth itself. Once imagined as a forum for post-colonial dialogue and shared responsibility, it now struggles to even define post-colonial relations. That the issue of reparations has not secured a place on the Commonwealth agenda speaks volumes about the institution’s limits when confronted with issues that challenge historical power hierarchies.
Immigration policy further exposes these contradictions. In recent years, the UK and parts of Europe – taking cues from the hardening of immigration regimes in the US – have allowed increasingly punitive approaches to migration, disproportionately affecting African, Caribbean and Latin American countries.
That reparations has not secured a place on the Commonwealth’s agenda speaks volumes about its limits with historical hierarchies
The rise of far-right politics has helped push immigration policy towards restriction and deterrence, fostering division at home while eroding the moral language of partnership and shared history that once underpinned relations with former colonies.
Many African and Caribbean countries continue to face stringent UK visa requirements despite shared histories and Commonwealth ties. This feels like a bitter irony: descendants of enslaved and colonised peoples encounter fortress borders from the very state that once claimed unrestricted access to their lands, labour and resources. Set against the disgraceful unresolved legacy of the Windrush scandal, visa restrictions deepen the sense that Britain’s post-imperial relationship with the Caribbean and Africa is increasingly transactional.
None of this means reparations are inevitable, or that agreement is imminent. The UK and Europe’s concerns – about fiscal precedent, political backlash and legal exposure – are real and will shape how the debate unfolds. But what 2025 has made clear is that reparations are no longer a marginal or episodic demand. They are being organised, internationalised and normalised as part of a broader reckoning with slavery, colonialism and global inequality.
The Caricom visit, the African Union’s Decade of Reparations and the growing alignment between Caribbean, African and diaspora voices all point in the same direction. Reparations or restorative justice, as The Big Payback makes clear, are not about dwelling in the past. They are about deciding what kind of future relationship Britain, as a former colonial power, is willing to create – one built on selective memory and managed silence, or one grounded in truth, repair and a willingness to confront the foundations on which modern Britain still stands.
Britain’s leaders say they want to look forward. The Caribbean and Africa are asking a more honest question: forward from where, and on whose terms?
That one really did make me angry. Have a shark with a chef's hat.
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Think of sharks and the most common images that spring to mind will likely be of dangerous predators hunting prey, accompanied by ominous music.

However, a town in the leafy suburbs of Glasgow has its own connection to the famous fish - and it dates back millions of years.

In 1982 a complete shark fossil was discovered in Bearsden, in East Dunbartonshire.

It was so complete experts could even see the remains of the last meal eaten by the fish, 330 million years after it died.

Now a group of local enthusiasts are hoping to install a sculpture of the fish in the town, ensuring the tale of the Bearsden Shark will be remembered for future generations.
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The one metre long shark - officially named as the Akmonistion zangerli - was discovered at the Manse Burn in Bearsden, among dozens of other fish and plant samples found during an excavation of the site.

According to local legend, some boys in the area had discovered fossils and brought them to the attention of Bearden fossil hunter Stan Wood, at that time working at the Hunterian Museum in Glasgow.

He arranged for the excavation to take place throughout the summer of 1982, with the Bearsden shark the most exciting find.

"It's the most complete fossil shark of any kind, anywhere, of any age," says Dr Neil Clark, the curator of palaeontology at the Hunterian.

"It's totally preserved, so every vertebrae and every tooth is in the place it was when it was alive. It's a very useful fossil for understanding what these sharks are like, as before we usually worked with just pieces of teeth or the head.

"For something like the megalodon (usually portrayed in various action and horror films as gigantic) we have no idea how big it really was because we just have the teeth to go on.

"These sharks became extinct during the Triassic period when around 96 per cent of creatures died out – that was far more than during the Cretaceous period which marked the end of the dinosaurs. "

The fossil is on display at the Hunterian Museum
Given this was hundreds of millions of years ago, Scotland bore no resemblance to the land it is today, instead being located near the equator.

"What is now Bearsden was part of a lagoon," explains Neil Buchanan, an enthusiast on the shark.

"That lent to the type of fish that were there, shrimps and the like. Then there was some sort of catastrophic event for the shark, which killed it, but it seemed to sink into mud."

Yet while soft tissue usually rots away, the lack of oxygen caused by the manner of the shark's death and more mud landing on top preserved the fish.

A plaque on a small cairn already marks where the discovery was made, but Mr Buchanan and others in the Bearsden Shark Group, external would now like to see a sculpture in the town as a memento of the shark.

"People are beginning to forget about it, " he says.

"You mention the Bearsden shark to people and sometimes they have no idea about it.

"One of the things we have come to realise is that the site itself is isolated from the population, so we came up with the idea of a permanent display in the town centre.

"The quality would hopefully be attractive enough for people locally to look at, and maybe even have visitors come."

Despite the shark being so well preserved, Dr Clark says there remain many mysteries about the fish found in a Bearsden burn.

"There is still a lot to be found out about them, especially the structure behind the head," he explains.

"There are a lot of different theories. At the time it was found they thought maybe it arched its back and make it look like a huge mouth, but it's so narrow it wouldn't actually look like a mouth, so that theory is out the window.

"Another theory has it as a male shark and perhaps it was a purpose in mating, like for scratching females.

"There is still so much more to be found about these creatures, but we may never discover it.

"Research is still ongoing regarding the things dug out of Bearsden and there's always something new coming out from them - that's what is so magical about it."
 
At least he has the requisite chompers to be Bri'ish.
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It's not just le bri*ish (Beans on toast? GROSS!) who don't grind down all their healthy, real teeth into stubs so they can superglue fluorescent plastic ones on top. That's only considered normal in America.

Take your safe-edgy elsewhere please.
 
Him also saying "I am delighted" is the funniest shit, it makes him look insanely inept. I did not need to do any opsec for this, as it was all there. This is a really bad blunder, even for him.

Alaa Abd el-Fattah apologised for his Tweets, and gets a "I'm delighted" from Starmer.

Lucy Connolly deleted her tweet, and apologised for writing it, but got banged up all the same.
 
If I run for MP on the basis anyone even whispering about reparations gets trebucheted into the sun, would any of you vote for me? I can at least promise to not fuck things up any harder than the current wallies in power.

I'll also get rid of all the blacks and non whites, and Lenny Henry will be smeared in gateaux and fed to Dawn French after she's been starved for a month. I'll make the BBC televise it.
 
If I run for MP on the basis anyone even whispering about reparations gets trebucheted into the sun, would any of you vote for me? I can at least promise to not fuck things up any harder than the current wallies in power.

I'll also get rid of all the blacks and non whites, and Lenny Henry will be smeared in gateaux and fed to Dawn French after she's been starved for a month. I'll make the BBC televise it.
We need reparations for the grooming gangs and nigger stabbings
 
Have the fuckers thought about possible backlash to demanding money with menaces like this?
I mean, there's a good chance that real, proper, genuine racism of the lynching kind would start to occur up and down the country if a government approved reparations.
People would stop grumbling about having niggers shoved into every advert and media property and actively refuse to tolerate it.
Tolerate is the important word in all this. The left and all the "minorities" be they racial, religious, or sexualities have forgotten the meaning of tolerate and tolerant.
Us Brits are a tolerant people, but tolerate means "put up with" not "accept".
It's being polite, not welcoming. It really doesn't take that much for "tolerate" to become "resent" and then "detest" tbh.
It seems like brazen fuckers are having a competition to see what stupid critical theory nonsense will get the British to snap first.
 
I'm convinced that the modern day church of england is just a massive money laundering racket
At this point the whole Church is just a tool to try and convince the few remaining people who listen to them that taking in morbillions of Sandniggers is morally good.

I was watching the news a while and segment about housing migrants in Inverness came on. All the "community leaders" opinions pretty much boiled down to "yes we know you have concerns but they come from bad places so you have to be nice to them and if you're not you're a bad person". The so called "community leaders" are completely out of touch with their actual communities and just repeat the party line.

They make no effort to understand why people feel this way and just assume that
A) they're wrong
B) they're bad people
C) they'll do as the people in charge tell them at the end of the day


SNP's going to get a fucking shock next year when Reform start sweeping up
 
The problem with reparations is that not just Britain was involved in slavery. Hell, some Brits were slaves to Romans at times, back in the day. Do we demand reparations from Rome? What about all the people in Africa and the Caribbean who were also involved in trafficking slaves? Why are they not included in having to pay reparations?

We can all whine about abuse and bad decisions of the past. Demanding big bucks for evil deeds done almost 200 years ago is fucking stupid though. And yes, it will fuel racism if they’re not careful, far from solving it.

Reparations are just a grift. We all know it, but no-one’s allowed to say so because that would be racist.
 
The problem with reparations is that not just Britain was involved in slavery.
The problem with reparations is that the same lazy blacks demanding reparation go to Dubai on holiday, which is actively poaching Africans to build infrastructure, or buy from Shein, Alibaba, TikTok shop, use delivery apps, flaunt designer and fake designer, jewellery, or use drugs, which all have varying levels of modern day slavery and exploitation. The idea of reparations is a fucking joke, they're just extra bennies for the classes we don't want.

Keir is not backing down on el-Fattah, he still considers his arrival in the UK to be "welcome" because he is a British citizen who was "unfairly detained abroad". Someone do a crosscheck on all the white trash who got banged up in Tenerife or SEAsia for having drugs in their luggage. Someone check on that autistic Yorkshire fella who was locked up for an anti-Hamas meme.
 
If I run for MP on the basis anyone even whispering about reparations gets trebucheted into the sun, would any of you vote for me?
Yes. I love trebuchets.

and Lenny Henry will be smeared in gateaux
This Lenny Henry?



Someone with a Twitter account needs to drop it in the replies and ask "This you?" Clearly he's not seeking racial justice for the Chinese!
 
It seems like brazen fuckers are having a competition to see what stupid critical theory nonsense will get the British to snap first.
I mean, this could describe pretty much any policy of the left in the last 25 years, couldn't it?

I honestly don't know what the future holds at this stage. This time of year is a weird one, isn't it? January itself is named after the god, Janus, who had two faces, one looking back on the year just gone, and one to the coming year. And I'm sure like many, I lean towards such behaviour at the tail end of the year. Right now I genuinely have no clue what's afoot and that bothers me more than I can really articulate.

Whatever happens, however, I am beyond glad to know this place, and it's users,exists because you're all absolutely fucking glorious and it is so good to know that I am not alone in how I see things, even if that concurrence is limited to "this is all absolutely pish, isn't it?".
 
Have the fuckers thought about possible backlash to demanding money with menaces like this?
I mean, there's a good chance that real, proper, genuine racism of the lynching kind would start to occur up and down the country if a government approved reparations.
People would stop grumbling about having niggers shoved into every advert and media property and actively refuse to tolerate it.
Tolerate is the important word in all this. The left and all the "minorities" be they racial, religious, or sexualities have forgotten the meaning of tolerate and tolerant.
Us Brits are a tolerant people, but tolerate means "put up with" not "accept".
It's being polite, not welcoming. It really doesn't take that much for "tolerate" to become "resent" and then "detest" tbh.
It seems like brazen fuckers are having a competition to see what stupid critical theory nonsense will get the British to snap first.
Douglas Murray has a good take on this that I’m too lazy to find the video but he basically said, “imagine going out and saying ‘there’s a group of people who have been persecuted, enslaved, and even murdered throughout history, so we’re going to take money off all of you and give it to the Jews.”

It’s pretty easy for everyone, even for people who can’t imagine how they’d feel if hadn’t had breakfast that morning, to see how vicious the backlash would be.

Although Lenny Henry would still be like, “but I didn’t have my reparations this morning?”

Yes. I love trebuchets.


This Lenny Henry?

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Someone with a Twitter account needs to drop it in the replies and ask "This you?" Clearly he's not seeking racial justice for the Chinese!
He’s already addressed this and blamed white people for it.
 
The problem with reparations is that not just Britain was involved in slavery. Hell, some Brits were slaves to Romans at times, back in the day.
Not just Roman times. There were English slaves still being traded in North Africa and the middle east even after the abolition of the Atlantic slave trade.
 
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