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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Why don't they grass up the smugglers they are paying? Starmer's clamp down on smuggling gangs would see them arrested within seconds. Wouldn't he?

Smugglers probably told them their cousins work in the home office.

 

[BongoMongo]

Not surprising one bit. I've heard horror stories from family members that have worked as cleaners for student dorms over the summer, to get them ready for the next lot, and the Tiddlywinks are by far the most disgusting. A lot of the ones here are rich kids back home that have maids to pick up their shit after them so they leave the places an absolute mess but, the worst part was hearing from my cousin about the mystery meat & bones they would find in the freezer which looked like nothing from a shop. The security guard told her that he'd occasionally see them walking in with stray cats... now make of that what you will.

I have done that job and that's correct. They are the absolute worst people.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

You ever fannied about on Rednote, the Chinese TikTok thing that's accessible across the Firewall? Right now, what with it being the beginning of the academic year, it's fucking brimming with new-to-the-UK Chinese students literally asking whether they're allowed to eat the geese on their uni campus.

That they're asking, this year, is progress.

Considering during the last famine they basically emptied all of their cities of song birds this doesn't surprise me at all.

 

[Nopenopenope]

So big bollocks Burnham is in the news over potential leadership challenge to TTK. Reading, seems unlikely because he would need to become and MP (not easy when there aren't any by-elections at the moment and no guarantee of being selected) and abandon being Manchester mayor. Never really had an opinion on him but he's always portrayed himself as man of the people for Manchester, not sure if he would want to burn down his relatively good reputation trying to keep the Labour party corpse shambling along.

The fact leadership challenges are being openly reported about though shows the party already missed the iceberg, the boats fucked and their only chance of somehow improving things is to pin it all on Starmer. Even though the whole set needs to go, especially Reeves. Of course there wouldn't be any change in course but it might just be enough to get some of the Labour voters back on board, enough to spoil it for Reform anyway at the next GE.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I'll be sure to kiss my gf's armpits doubly just for you before I go sleep I'm sure you don't need the last remaining thread faggot to explain to you that when the vast majority of people say vagina they mean the entire area not the biologically accurate term.

Does "she" have a cock? Not the first person in the thread to have a wank over me. Won't be the last. Keep it to yourself in the future. You're a weird weeb pervert and we don't need to know what you're doing in the mass private chats here.

Quotes me to tell me I'm off-base in thinking Victoria Beckham is more attractive than Geri Halliwell, proceeds to hold up a cartoon character as better example.

It's the age old story of men liking curves and women not. Women always think the model look is attractive and men go "she's got no tits and she's dressed like a twat" and go back to some almost butterface with huge jugs.

Don't worry lads, 1 in 1 out is working fine. We just traded 1 out for a family of 3. More fighting age males being bred on our soil but at least we got rid of 1 of them.

"This is a clear message to people-smuggling gangs that illegal entry into the UK will not be tolerated," a Home Office spokesperson said.
"We will continue to detain and remove those who arrive by small boat."

Because you just made it fucking legal and changed nothing. You even picked an obvious propaganda piece for the first trade by saying it was a family. But a family is even worse because they breed like rabbits. "Won't someone think of the children" should have people thinking what happens to those children when they grow up.

I was trying to look up some news stories in Manchester for a bit of a change but it's all marketing for food places. A pot noodle shop is opening. Some e-celeb spoke about a chippy. A woman let her cocaine fueled drug dealer drive her and her 3 kids home and ended up in a bad crash. None of it is really interesting.

 

[Clem Fandango]

So big bollocks Burnham is in the news over potential leadership challenge to TTK. Reading, seems unlikely because he would need to become and MP (not easy when there aren't any by-elections at the moment and no guarantee of being selected) and abandon being Manchester mayor. Never really had an opinion on him but he's always portrayed himself as man of the people for Manchester, not sure if he would want to burn down his relatively good reputation trying to keep the Labour party corpse shambling along.

The fact leadership challenges are being openly reported about though shows the party already missed the iceberg, the boats fucked and their only chance of somehow improving things is to pin it all on Starmer. Even though the whole set needs to go, especially Reeves. Of course there wouldn't be any change in course but it might just be enough to get some of the Labour voters back on board, enough to spoil it for Reform anyway at the next GE.

I don't think Burnham is going to do a coup any time soon, but he's putting this out there for a leadership bid sometime in the future.

It reminds me of back when Boris Johnson was doing HIGNFY and became London mayor. I asked a mate of mine who was into politics whether he would become PM, and he gave me similar reasons why not: well, he'd have to quit being mayor, somehow become an MP, find a safe seat or wait for a GE or by election etc.

It took years, but it all happened in the end. I think one of the most important thing for becoming party leader is "has the average person heard of you"? Most people can't name that many politicians at all, but a fair few know Burnham these days.

 

[Made In Wales]

So big bollocks Burnham is in the news over potential leadership challenge to TTK. Reading, seems unlikely because he would need to become and MP (not easy when there aren't any by-elections at the moment and no guarantee of being selected) and abandon being Manchester mayor. Never really had an opinion on him but he's always portrayed himself as man of the people for Manchester, not sure if he would want to burn down his relatively good reputation trying to keep the Labour party corpse shambling along.

The fact leadership challenges are being openly reported about though shows the party already missed the iceberg, the boats fucked and their only chance of somehow improving things is to pin it all on Starmer. Even though the whole set needs to go, especially Reeves. Of course there wouldn't be any change in course but it might just be enough to get some of the Labour voters back on board, enough to spoil it for Reform anyway at the next GE.

Burnham has said 'it's up to the party' but unless Andrew Gwynne is de-selected in Gorton & Denton and a by-election is held there (risky as Reform UK would likely take the seat) then it's a non-starter.

Don't forget that the Labour Conference is next week - will Burnham and his backers stick the knife in, or can Starmer pull it out of the hat?

Labour are more fucked than the Tories, Lib Dems are starting to lose some voters to Greens and Independents as even they have had enough of Davey's paranoia about Farage.

Anyway, do you want to know a secret - do you promise not to tell?

Even if you don't...

The Welsh town of Caerphilly could well decide if there will be the changes I and others hope for this year, as on Thursday 23rd October the Senedd by-election to replace the deceased Hefin David (son of the constituency's MP, Wayne David) takes place.

Welsh Labour and Westminster Labour will be watching the result and if Reform UK win then it will put significant pressure on Starmer to go - comparisons with the 5th to 7th of July 2022 and the sacking of Boris Johnson as PM have been mentioned.

Now, if Starmer doesn't go voluntarily, there will be defections. Enough of them forces his hand, but he may take matters into his own hands and go to the people of the country for their vote.

Oh, and what's this... Reform UK win yet again:

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/nigel-farage-reform-labour-election

https://archive.ph/zWTOB

 

[Crunkle]

New poll out for the nerds:

RFM: 33% (-1)
LAB: 17% (+1)
LDM: 16% (+3)
CON: 14% (-2)
GRN: 12% (=)

Source: Find Out Now
changes against 18th September

Tories now officially in fourth place and Lib Dem conference boost to become official opposition.

Here's what it'd look like:

 

[Made In Wales]

New poll out for the nerds:

RFM: 33% (-1)
LAB: 17% (+1)
LDM: 16% (+3)
CON: 14% (-2)
GRN: 12% (=)

Source: Find Out Now

Tories now officially in fourth place and Lib Dem conference boost to become official opposition.

Here's what it'd look like:
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Absolutely glorious.

Still too many Labour and Tory seats but ho hum. Both of them deserve zero seats, and I'd not bet against that happening.

Nice to see no red in Wales, as the Labour vote will be split between Lib Dems, Greens and Plaid.

 

[Overly Serious]

It reminds me of back when Boris Johnson was doing HIGNFY and became London mayor. I asked a mate of mine who was into politics whether he would become PM, and he gave me similar reasons why not: well, he'd have to quit being mayor, somehow become an MP, find a safe seat or wait for a GE or by election etc.

The Mayoral elections that brought Boris Johnson into that position were one of the first elections of that type in the UK to use digital voting. The process was such a shambles with so many security flaws and broken chains of custody that it should have been re-run from the start. I'm not saying he didn't win the election, I'm saying there's no way to know if he did. We're talking hand someone a hard drive and they drive off to hand it over to someone else later on level of oversight, unencrypted data, simple local database that someone can just type new numbers into. It's been a while but I recall it being a total shambles, none of which was ever looked into.

 

[Crunkle]

Nice to see no red in Wales, as the Labour vote will be split between Lib Dems, Greens and Plaid.

It's becoming clear what the Lib Dem strategy is: replicate Reform's success to replace Labour as the opposition.

Like all election cycles, taking dips and doing funny things isn't policy and doesn't inspire confidence in running a country. I've got a feeling the Ed Davey as the Post Office Minister or whatever it was back in the day will really hurt his campaign.

 

[Nopenopenope]

New poll out for the nerds:

RFM: 33% (-1)
LAB: 17% (+1)
LDM: 16% (+3)
CON: 14% (-2)
GRN: 12% (=)

Source: Find Out Now
changes against 18th September

Tories now officially in fourth place and Lib Dem conference boost to become official opposition.

Here's what it'd look like:
View attachment 7960718View attachment 7960719

How are Scottish people still voting for the SNP in any numbers. Even the Welsh have woken up and stopped drinking the Labour kool-aid

 

[the printer is outo fink]

It's the age old story of men liking curves and women not. Women always think the model look is attractive and men go "she's got no tits and she's dressed like a twat" and go back to some almost butterface with huge jugs.

I think the models thing is a gay men's idea of what makes an attractive woman. If I think of what makes a woman sexy it's someone who looks like a great drawing of Wonder Woman. Curvy and athletic with a hint of muscularity, pretty face and great hair.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I think the models thing is a gay men's idea of what makes an attractive woman. If I think of what makes a woman sexy it's someone who looks like a great drawing of Wonder Woman. Curvy and athletic with a hint of muscularity, pretty face and great hair.

You think a cartoon character is attractive?

How are Scottish people still voting for the SNP in any numbers. Even the Welsh have woken up and stopped drinking the Labour kool-aid

They don't give a shit about the politics. It's "the Scottish party" and they'll stick to it like flies on shit.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

How are Scottish people still voting for the SNP in any numbers. Even the Welsh have woken up and stopped drinking the Labour kool-aid

As long as they keep the promises of London pays for everything then Scotts will continue their downward spiral.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

You think a cartoon character is attractive?

I think that she's drawn as a type of ideal. So when I think about what men find attractive, that's what I think of as a general ideal, yes.

 

[FuckedOffToff]

How are Scottish people still voting for the SNP in any numbers. Even the Welsh have woken up and stopped drinking the Labour kool-aid

It's the Holyrood elections next year, and they've probably got voting intention for those in mind when answering these polls, subconsciously, at least.
Are the Scots sufficiently aware of Reform standing up here? Are there names they can identify? One or two, at the least, that are challenging for Holyrood next year?
I think the intention for the SNP is merely habit, a lack of pitching Reform adequately up here and pure ass-backwards stubbornness.
Thing is, there's too many immigrants in too many places, and attitudes are doing a swift 180 degrees.
Reform need to capitalise on this with some Scottish candidates for Holyrood. They need to up their profile. The ignorance of the SNP perfidy can't be ignored forever, and indeed, the situation is moving fairly quickly.
Glasgow City Council is about to go bust, they've got a law that makes it illegal not to house the homeless, and any illegals who are turned down for asylum or housing are heading there and have to be housed, because "Refuweegees Welcome!". They've made a rod for their own back, and it's unsustainable and spilling into the rest of the country.
Scotland is radicalising, but it takes more to turn a bigger, more spread out country, with less links to England, around in it's attitudes than Wales, which is much closer and entwined.

Tl, Dr: Reform needs to promote Scottish candidates and interact with the country, the people, the issues and the Parliament. At the moment they're just a Westminster bubble party, and as relevent to Scots as Ben Habib, or Ed Davey.

 

[Crunkle]

Phase two latest:

Starmer's Head of Communications, Steph Driver, has now resigned. She's been with Starmer for six years (five in opposition).

Apparently, she and others have been very upset about the new Tim Allan (not that one) appointment as executive director of comms.

What's the bet that:

1. She's connected to the growing McSweeney/Labour Together scandal and is pre-empting a firing?
2. This triggers a couple more resignations as it sounds like they are not a happy bunch in Downing Street? She was very well-liked and seen as one of the more competent people around Starmer.

 

[BongoMongo]

The media is covering Batty Boy Kiers intentions to make people have digital ID cards.

Anyone think this will get arise from people or will they not give a fuck so long as the benefits, footie, and Uber eats keeps coming? I'm betting on the latter.

 

[A-Logato]

Anyone think this will get arise from people or will they not give a fuck so long as the benefits, footie, and Uber eats keeps coming? I'm betting on the latter.

sadly yeah, I know way too many people who will simply just roll over and do it if it means they can still have their beer and kick ball. Same thing happened with the jab for many people and it will all be too likely here as well.

Personally I will flat out refuse to have a digital ID, any job the requires one will be on my personal black list and anyone who I do find out who has one will lose any ounce of respect from me and will be given the mental label of "cuck".