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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Crunkle]

How does anyone with more than 5 brain cells believe that Robinson isn't a clandestine MI5 operation

Him being an MI5 op would be the simplest and best outcome.

If we assume he's just a grifting retard from the EDL days, he's definitely aware that the police are currently testing out this facial recognition software, that police have dedicated videographers at protests to record everything with a 360 camera and that with it being Londonistan, there is a very high chance that stuff will kick off big-time. The Kirk assassination obviously won't have calmed anything down.

 

[Muad'Dick]

The march, one where Mr Robinson has requested his attendees do not wear face masks, is obviously a honey pot designed to mark those willing to cause a fuss and a ruckus. The Venn diagram of 'people who attended the Robinson march' and 'Those who rioted after Southport' will almost be a perfect circle.

Tommy is a state asset. If you've ever had dealings with any kind of protests or irl activism that leans towards nationalism, you'll know that if what you're doing gains any kind of traction you'll have the Tommy tards sniffing around either trying to get involved, if not outright co-opt it.

This isn't even a protest. Its a festival, a day out. If it was a protest they'd be doing it during the week, when the numbers would cause a disruption and the politicians weren't sat at home with their rent boys and quail's eggs.

This is just an expensive Two Minute Hate for the low information crowd and an easy way of cataloguing/arresting dissenters. The police have had "evidence gatherers" at the hotel protests since almost day one, so most of these people are on film already. There have been several incidents where the police have picked specific people from the crowds in order to book them. I don't know how far the Met has got with it's LFR rollout, but at this point they don't even need it with the amount of video the local forces have gathered. If we don't see a lot of targeted arrests on Saturday I'd be very surprised.

 

[Mr Vinny Boombatz]

How does anyone with more than 5 brain cells believe that Robinson isn't a clandestine MI5 operation

They don't. They do say it tho, because there is money for shilling for Stephen "History of Sucker Punching People" Yaxley.

It is laughable that there are people who still think that he's a "martyr" for anything. He produced a "documentary" that was bollocks, and proven to be so. Then, after being told "Do not repeat this defamation of a SCHOOL BOY, or you will be jailed AGAIN" decided to hire a projector and broadcast it to the public.

Whether he is a nark for the glowies, I don't know. Even if he is, I doubt he's worth it.

Didn't he admit that a lot of the money he conned out of the mouth breathers, went on coke and booze for his mates? Yes he did.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I don't know why people bother protesting. Every day there's another march and protest in London and no one gives a fuck. Last week it was cripples for benefit cuts, next week it's Pakis for the death of Israel. Never makes any difference and no one cares.

This is just an expensive Two Minute Hate for the low information crowd and an easy way of cataloguing/arresting dissenters. The police have had "evidence gatherers" at the hotel protests since almost day one, so most of these people are on film already. There have been several incidents where the police have picked specific people from the crowds in order to book them. I don't know how far the Met has got with it's LFR rollout, but at this point they don't even need it with the amount of video the local forces have gathered. If we don't see a lot of targeted arrests on Saturday I'd be very surprised.

Weekend so people with jobs can go to it.

I don't think Tommy is a government agent. I think he's a grifter with funding from Israel and the middle east. If he was an asset he would have more cat boys in his dating history and never cop any real charges.

 

[teriyakiburns]

HHH is not a surprise since derailing is the name of the game there.

Him eating a ban is the surprise. He normally gets a slap on the wrist, but I suppose anyone can fly to close to the sun.

I don't think it was gender wars stuff. The thread was pretty heated in the ethics of murdering people. If it was gender wars it would be a shock.

There was a lot of it showing up last night when I went to bed. People arguing about the ethics of abortion vis kirk's beliefs about it, with a lot of really vicious stuff about his daughter from both sides of the argument. It was genuinely nasty.

In other not news. The machete attack I spoke of the other day still has not been featured in any online news sources. I'm going to have to speak to the people who witnessed the aftermath and see if they know what went down. There's other news articles about the place (mostly fluff pieces) but that is completely missing from any local or national news sources.

Please let us know what you find. It wouldn't surprise me if the media is ignoring knife attacks because they can't use them to push an agenda right now.

'm quite sure this doesn't apply to anyone on here, but by the slim chance that it does; do not go to the protests in London tomorrow.

There's no chance I'm going to London for any reason to start with, so I'm safe.

I have a distinct feeling the authorities are going to be hands-off on Robinson's parade, in an attempt to make it look pointless. I also reckon it'll go fairly peacefully, as most of the potential counter-protesters were arrested during the PA demo earlier in the week. That means any counter-protest is going to be anaemic and I expect the police will use the chance to sweep up a few more of them. There'll probably be a lot of online seethe about the lack of arrests of nazi fascist bigots and not much else. Any arrests from it will come next week, piecemeal and quietly.

 

[Cloaca Rimjob]

Supposedly theres work being done on the train lines tomorrow so its harder for people to get into london.

 

[Crunkle]

really vicious stuff

The entire last few days have been horrific. From that video of his assassination all the way up to the thread on here with people reacting. Some really surprising names in there just up and happily celebrating a political assassination.

If Starmer or Corbyn or fuck it, even Johnson was shot tomorrow, I can confidently say that my reaction would be: "wow, that's fucking awful. Hated the guy but nobody deserves that". It's always pretty reasonable in here so I do forget about what kind of people use this site a lot of the time.

Staggering to think that Jo Cox was shot and murdered about 9 years ago now in the United Kingdom. Thought she was a cunt, hated her politics but nobody deserves to be gunned down in the street. With how close people got to Farage with those MickeyD milkshakes, it's pretty concerning especially since people are equating what's happening now with 30s Germany, really ramping up the rhetoric.

 

[Smyrna]

More Mandy fallout; the Times is reporting that he refused to resign which is why he had to be sacked (he did once say that he was a fighter and not a quitter...). There is also a belief (backed up by other journalists including Calgie and Hodges) that he will begin attacking the government from within the Lords once Parliament returns from recess, potentially with the intent of knocking it over completely.

https://archive.ph/IOJj3

https://xcancel.com/christiancalgie/status/1966444463548510646

https://xcancel.com/DPJHodges/status/1966410782930764255

 

[Muad'Dick]

That means any counter-protest is going to be anaemic and I expect the police will use the chance to sweep up a few more of them.

Yeah. I don't think we'll be seeing thousands thrown into the back of the vans. I don't even think we'll see any major scuffles (though you never know, it depends on the numbers, those things can be quite spontaneous if enough people are there). My money is on there being a lot of targeted arrests at the first sign of any trouble.

As has been mentioned before; its a tried and tested tactic. They would monitor the crowds at the match and if anyone stepped out of line you'd get your card pulled. It wouldn't even have to get violent. They'd just collar you for incitement. Most of the time it wouldn't even result in a charge. It was just a way of removing you from the equation and preventing trouble. The same can be said of whats happening with the protests. They don't have to charge people, but its a very easy way of squaring the circle and getting you on file.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I don't think it was gender wars stuff. The thread was pretty heated in the ethics of murdering people. If it was gender wars it would be a shock.

Him eating a ban is the surprise. He normally gets a slap on the wrist, but I suppose anyone can fly to close to the sun.

It was the derailment rather than anyone going through some nuclear takes for most of the bans I believe. The thread was already going a mile a second and having the latest round of, "woman shouldn't vote/men shouldn't breath" will have just made it worse. We've a small mob of staff for this place and it'll have seemed easier to do a sweeping ban for a week rather than threadban them and have the fight spill into a dozens different other threads along with the spammed reports to them of, "they're so meeeeaaaan" (obviously not including Otterly in the latter but I know some posters do cry to the mods on here which is just baffling to me).

HHH is quite surprising. He's been protected by mods for a long time for the age of his account. Old accounts get to be pricks and don't cop bans like younger ones do.

He gets plenty of thread and temporary bans. What he tends not to get them for is the majority of the stuff he posts in things like US Politics general which is usually because someone decides to tag him then a bunch of people fight to be the first to swallow the most obvious bait in the world. It's like watching someone fish with dynamite.

If Starmer or Corbyn or fuck it, even Johnson was shot tomorrow, I can confidently say that my reaction would be: "wow, that's fucking awful. Hated the guy but nobody deserves that". It's always pretty reasonable in here so I do forget about what kind of people use this site a lot of the time.

Don't put that on the site. Go look at the piece of shit from Oxford who saw fit to put his grave dancing in a chat full of freshers and now is trying to play the victim over it. Then bear in mind that he met the deceased in reality rather than just raged about him on the internet. There are a lot of people saying a lot worse in public and experiencing no consequences.

 

[teriyakiburns]

More Mandy fallout; the Times is reporting that he refused to resign which is why he had to be sacked (he did once say that he was a fighter and not a quitter...). There is also a belief (backed up by other journalists including Calgie and Hodges) that he will begin attacking the government from within the Lords once Parliament returns from recess, potentially with the intent of knocking it over completely.

Break out the popcorn, lads.

He gets plenty of thread and temporary bans. What he tends not to get them for is the majority of the stuff he posts in things like US Politics general which is usually because someone decides to tag him then a bunch of people fight to be the first to swallow the most obvious bait in the world. It's like watching someone fish with dynamite.

I've barely interacted with him for the last two years (I think it's two years), so my understanding is clearly out of date.

 

[Muad'Dick]

The entire last few days have been horrific. From that video of his assassination all the way up to the thread on here with people reacting. Some really surprising names in there just up and happily celebrating a political assassination.

Inaction has emboldened them over the past decade or more. When you normalise violent rhetoric expect violence. When these people say "words are violence" they're right, albeit for all of the wrong reasons.

When you marry this to a society that can't keep a thought in it's head without wanting to commit it to text for the next dopamine hit then you're opening Pandora's box.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

A controversial statement but.

If my enemies die. Good.

I don't understand the performative outrage over people being happy someone they hated died. I'm not even being edgy here. If your enemies no longer exist you have a much easier time fixing the problems because there's less road blocks in the way. I have no opinion on Kirk as I had never heard of him until I saw him being shot. But the outrage over the left freaks celebrating is strange. If someone like Hillary Clinton died the right would be throwing parties and saying it couldn't have happened to a nicer woman.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I've barely interacted with him for the last two years (I think it's two years), so my understanding is clearly out of date.

I don't particularly, however I've always seen him as an obvious troll so I didn't typically take the bait. It's like people being outraged when trolls on Twitter decide to start an "N" tower.

Though to be fair I don't think I've seen people start outrage threads with "HHH just said all Republicans should die and Trump's a pedo" the way that certain journalists do about those Twitter posts so we're still restrained here when taking the bait.

 

[Muad'Dick]

I don't understand the performative outrage over people being happy someone they hated died. I'm not even being edgy here.

Some of it is performative, but I think a lot of it is tactical.

The nutters have been running rampant with the same kind of behaviour for years and you know what? It works.

The right (in whatever flavour that takes) has collectively sat on it's hands for too long. Not realising until fairly recently that there is no moral high ground in war. They've been fighting with the Queensberry Rules while their opponents have been using a prison shiv.

I for one welcome our new Karen overlords.

 

[Overly Serious]

I don't know why people bother protesting. Every day there's another march and protest in London and no one gives a fuck. Last week it was cripples for benefit cuts, next week it's Pakis for the death of Israel. Never makes any difference and no one cares.

It can be quite morale boosting to actually be out there and meeting people. Online and social media are so manipulated that you can feel incredibly alone in your views. And then you go out and find yourself surrounded by hundreds of people who are perfectly normal people and they say "yes - there's loads of us."

As to Tommy Robinson, he's been through too much for me to consider him a stooge. Far too much. Maybe some try to co-opt him and I'm not saying sometimes they might manage to do that a bit. But I remember back in the day with the EDL and he eventually quit saying it had been taken over by idiots. It was the idiots who were state backed because the original EDL freaked the Establisment out because it was "suits and boots". I.e. not just Working class but had Middle and Working class people rubbing shoulders and getting along. I don't think there's anything that bothers the Establishment more than that. Certainly not Grooming Gangs. So they did everything they could to push it to be a more extreme organisation to the point that Tommy himself ended up leaving.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

It can be quite morale boosting to actually be out there and meeting people. Online and social media are so manipulated that you can feel incredibly alone in your views. And then you go out and find yourself surrounded by hundreds of people who are perfectly normal people and they say "yes - there's loads of us."

As to Tommy Robinson, he's been through too much for me to consider him a stooge. Far too much. Maybe some try to co-opt him and I'm not saying sometimes they might manage to do that a bit. But I remember back in the day with the EDL and he eventually quit saying it had been taken over by idiots. It was the idiots who were state backed because the original EDL freaked the Establisment out because it was "suits and boots". I.e. not just Working class but had Middle and Working class people rubbing shoulders and getting along. I don't think there's anything that bothers the Establishment more than that. Certainly not Grooming Gangs. So they did everything they could to push it to be a more extreme organisation to the point that Tommy himself ended up leaving.

If Lauren Southern's book is to believed he would pimp her out to Andrew Tate and other rich arabs to fund his projects. I don't see how he can't be a stooge if he's rabble rousing anti-muslim groups on the street when behind closed doors he's doing cocaine with them and sharing his sluts with them.

 

[Overly Serious]

If Lauren Southern's book is to believed he would pimp her out to Andrew Tate and other rich arabs to fund his projects.

He what now?

Okay, well I don't follow Tommy Robinson closely, so I'll bow out of any discussion on him for now.

 

[Exegesis]

A new Banksy was sprayed on the Royal Courts of Justice last night, and was quickly covered by a screen.

Banksy is a retarded faggot and I despise his pseudointellectual art. Also, Banksy is really just a group of people.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

If my enemies die. Good.

I agree and I don't think it's controversial. I think too many people have a basic failure of the friend/enemy distinction. I think too many people are willing to live and let live, and I think if you're one of those people, you're an idiot, or you don't really care all that much about the country. The people on the opposite side to us have wilfully, aggressively, and gleefully destroyed our home; in a manner that if not reversed will result in our permanent extermination and the relegation of the entire human race to barely third world conditions.

If all of them, and their families, and their friends and anyone that sold them bread were burned alive in a giant furnace, I'd be dancing around in the ash like a kiddy schoolboy on a snowy Christmas morning. It is not virtuous to love the people that despise you, it is not good to offer the men who want you dead - and your children raped - a hand in open dialogue and friendship. Listen to what they say, and watch what they do; because what they is that they want you dead, and what they do is act on that.

Also: Tommy is not an MI5 guy, he's literally just a grifter; he's a civnat whose only redeeming feature is helping get the rape gangs into the spotlight.