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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Made In Wales]

Lol

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1964468921870024850

Bribing Shabana so that she doesn't back Jezbollah... facepalm!

Oh dear, just when you think that things couldn't get any more desperate.

 

[The Gene Genie]

Hard-hitting journalism from the Weekend Sport.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

Eating at a calorie deficit is extremely difficult

NO.

Planning to eat at a calorie deficit is easy, sticking to the boring foods on that journey is difficult.

Have a cup of porridge for breakfast with a tablespoon of peanut butter. This is easy because it only requires access to hot water.

Your next 2 meals are 200g of veg, 200g of meat, 200g of rice/pasta/potato.

I guarantee you will be on a deficit, and bored. I was 300lb, I’m about 230 these days, I eat boring mon-thur and not boring at the weekend. When my weight goes higher I eat boring sun-fri.

I’ve also done intermittent fasting with a meal at 1pm and a meal at 6pm. It feels amazeballs around 11am being in charge of your hunger. Ask yourself how you’d feel after f you didn’t have breakfast…

My point being try boring food before needing to stay on drugs for life.

For the record I topped out at 24 stone way before my time on here. I’m high 16/ low 17 these days and can we please not do the American thing of one imperial unit (lb’s) in metric amounts.

 

[InteracialBowelSyndrome]

Kemi is an anchor baby and still runs on Africa time. She didn’t hide anything about the grooming gangs because she didn’t know anything about them. She turned up late and missed the meeting.
De-fucking-port

Kemi Bathing-Nog isn't THAT bad of a politician, but she took control of a doomed party where half the Tory MP's of the last 15 years deserve to be jailed, and Boris Johnson needs to be (Removed By Reddit).

She's just completley out of her depth. And as you said, she MAY have more loyalty to Nigeria than the UK.

Depending on what part of Nigeria they come from, the citizens can be pretty conservative. The country doesn't have much of a welfare state, so you either work or die.

She just isn't that adept at seeing how the world is changing, and more and more people want the status quo (Tory and Labor) destroyed or dead.

 

[Tony Martin's Force Ghost]

Goddamn Starmer, she is pro-Palestine, you retard.

Now with MaCKmood in the Home Office, that raghead is going to censor a ton of stories, especially random attacks. The good thing with all this as the public grows progressively more radical, Reform has to become more radical, meaning people like Nadine, Tice, and Armstrong get left in the dirt.

 

[The Gene Genie]

Kemi Bathing-Nog isn't THAT bad of a politician, but she took control of a doomed party where half the Tory MP's of the last 15 years deserve to be jailed, and Boris Johnson needs to be (Removed By Reddit).

She's just completley out of her depth. And as you said, she MAY have more loyalty to Nigeria than the UK.

Depending on what part of Nigeria they come from, the citizens can be pretty conservative. The country doesn't have much of a welfare state, so you either work or die.

She just isn't that adept at seeing how the world is changing, and more and more people want the status quo (Tory and Labor) destroyed or dead.

I think that she's also aware, as much as a darkie from Nigeria can be, that she's nothing more than a placeholder leader that can suck up the hot air while the Tories try to figure out whether they even have a future. Frankly I just don't think anyone could lead the Tory Party right now. They could resurrect Edmund Burke or Robert Peel and it wouldn't make a bit of difference.

 

[Crunkle]

Eating at a calorie deficit is extremely difficult. After a few days your body is screaming for you to eat at excess, and the screaming doesn't stop.
Eating maintenance calories is considerably easier

Anyone who can't do a calorie deficit diet is a retarded fat faggot.

Spoiler: TMI: Weight loss

I lost eight stone in six months because I was a disgusting fat fuck and I decided to grow up.

Yes, a calorie deficit diet is awful. Some days I had 500 calories max, some days was 2k with exercise.

You need to avoid bread. Alcohol disappears. Your diet needs to consider gut health because you will stop being able to shit. You need to take supplements to ensure you're at least getting what you need.

Once your diet slows and you start being able to eat again, you can barely stomach a full meal because you're not used to having a full stomach. Meals out are nasty affairs where you can barely eat a few bites. It's very dangerous and when your diet is finished you need to spend months to verify that your bad habits have finally gone away and you don't pile the weight back on.

All of that pain was my punishment for the years I sat there and ate and drank myself to death. And I deserved it just like all fat faggots deserve it.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

It makes one wonder if the Labour party are using Jezbollah as a magnet for the looney-lefties; the white, middle-aged, middle-classed liberal woman, to clear a path for a more conservative islamic party.

Compare the % or ratio of "pro-palestine, pro-Islam" MPs and councillors in Jezbollah - a party founded on the support of Palestine, with that of Labour - founded on the ideals of helping and representing the working-class, white, indigenous population.

Taking into account Census data from 2021 and how the landscape has dramatically shifted in the years since, one can observe that the ethnic groups are a combined majority compared to White British (Even when the census counts 'Roma' as white). It is understandable from a purely political perspective that Labour, Conservatives and the smaller parties, would focus on BAME groups over whites, as they are a majority of the population.
It's no secret that Muslim youth outnumbers White youth

Spoiler: Graph

Could Labour and Lord Ali be purging the Larpers from Labour and moving it more towards an Islamic party or Islam-lite party?

 

[redlenses2112]

A shocking exposé in the Daily Express has laid bare the vile attitudes festering at the heart of Labour's rotten establishment.

In Peterborough, Labour council leader Dennis Jones (below) dismissed victims of these heinous crimes as 'white trash' in sickening WhatsApp messages.

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When a fellow councillor dared to raise concerns about mass immigration and women's safety, Jones sneered:

'Oh so white British cops f*****g poor white trash in Rotherham is OK, is it? Get a f*****g grip.'

She's probably right in a morbid sense, because the "white trash" girls are going to be the obvious targets.

It's funny to hear British shitlibs using the term "white trash". I'm calling cultural appropriation on that bitch.

Anyway, I guess it's good she got fired, but that still pales in comparison to that other Labour Party nigger publicly calling to 'cut the throats' of unhappy White people ('fascists').

 

[FedPostalService]

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My wish has came true

Planning to eat at a calorie deficit is easy, sticking to the boring foods on that journey is difficult.

Also, why does everyone forget exercise? Fatties burn an amazing amount of calories with moderate activity. They can eat 2,000 calories a day and drop a ton of weight just by going for walks.

The last stone is a pain as you’re burning far less calories with activity, but by then you’ve learnt a ton of good habits so it’s easier.

Honestly, don’t take these weight loss drugs and just go for a walk, then get a gym membership and learn to lift.

It makes one wonder if the Labour party are using Jezbollah as a magnet for the looney-lefties; the white, middle-aged, middle-classed liberal woman, to clear a path for a more conservative islamic party.

a magnetic for the crazies would have been useful once, but anyone who was sensible left when Corbyn was in charge. All it has left are crazies and opportunists who were waiting for him to fall.

It doesn’t help that almost no one on the PLP has careers anymore and are either student politicians who go and work for MPs to become MPs or work shy fuckwits who spend work for unions and fail upwards.

They’re fucked in the long term.

 

[BongoMongo]

My wish has came true

Also, why does everyone forget exercise? Fatties burn an amazing amount of calories with moderate activity. They can eat 2,000 calories a day and drop a ton of weight just by going for walks.

The last stone is a pain as you’re burning far less calories with activity, but by then you’ve learnt a ton of good habits so it’s easier.

Honestly, don’t take these weight loss drugs and just go for a walk, then get a gym membership and learn to lift.

a magnetic for the crazies would have been useful once, but anyone who was sensible left when Corbyn was in charge. All it has left are crazies and opportunists who were waiting for him to fall.

It doesn’t help that almost no one on the PLP has careers anymore and are either student politicians who go and work for MPs to become MPs or work shy fuckwits who spend work for unions and fail upwards.

They’re fucked in the long term.

I think part of the issue is how it's pushed. Fat people don't realise how many calories they burn just by existing and in a way they can use this to their benefit. They don't need to hit the gym multiple times a week.

Some basic stretches and strength training and walking more is sufficient, and will work wonders (which will absolutely help to get the ball rolling; they'll see good results which will be a solid foundation for better things).

Get the basics right from the outset and build on it and go for the more intensive stuff once you've developed your stamina and built up some muscle tone, is a good way to start.

 

[Special spoonie]

I’m torn on this tbh. Obesity WILL kill you. It’s a massive drain on the nhs. It’d be great if people could moderate, but it’s obvious they can’t, or we would t be such a fat country. If I woke up 300lb tomorrow I’d take them.
They aren’t without side effects for sure, but if it’s that or almost-certain diabetes and heart disease then maybe it’s the lesser evil. Beetus takes about 20years off people’s lives.
I want to see what long-long term use does. I think there’s about 15 years of decent data for liraglutude for diabetes, that’s not showing any huge signal flags for safety yet, but it’s a different population to well-but-fat.
It seems to influence dopamine regulation, so I’m interested in effects on the brain long term. kidneys too.
We will see, I suppose.

I went down a rabbit hole about this. What I’m finding sinister about the whole situation, especially with online paid pharmacies is they are putting the people up a dose automatically because it makes more money per pen. Some people are that suppressed they have malnutrition. So are they really guaranteed side effects, or poor dosing? The problem is obese people have a poor relationship with food. They usually do not eat foods with adequate protein and fibre. So they are not used to eating satiating food Or used to binge eating. So they think they need the higher pen. It’s likely taught them absolutely nothing about how to maintain that loss ongoing. But then, that’s probably what the jab companies hope for.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

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I guarantee you will be on a deficit, and bored. I was 300lb, I’m about 230 these days, I eat boring mon-thur and not boring at the weekend. When my weight goes higher I eat boring sun-fri.

Good job on losing the weight but I disagree that healthy eating has to be boring. There's plenty of really good vegetables you can roast to get loads of flavour out of them. You don't need to go African mode and eat 1 bowl of rice a day to lose weight. Start walking an extra 30 minutes a day. Switch what you drink (black tea with no milk or sugar is as good as water for weight loss and you can find loads of herbal teas to get variety in your drinks).

You need to avoid bread

No. Don't eat to starve yourself to lose weight rapidly. You need a long term sustainable diet and to make it a full time change. If you need to lose weight you drop the snacks for healthier ones. If you need to gain you add some extra mayonnaise to your chips. These anorexia diets are terrible for your body and don't create lasting change. You don't need to suffer to lose weight, you need to use more herbs in your cooking to replace fat flavour and look up vegetarian recipes or sub out high fat meats for lower fat meats or meat alternatives. Then when it's time to keep your weight stable it's easy to sub in some extra red meat and you're no longer dropping and didn't need to rebalance everything again.

 

[Crunkle]

You don't need to suffer to lose weight

The more you suffer for your lifestyle, the less likely you'll want to experience that again.

Not all fat is bad for you. Drink whole milk, eat good meat. Cut fat off of meat if you know it's high in calories. Nuts are some of the fattiest foods you can find but it's natural fat that fills you up for longer. The fats you want to be avoiding are the hydrogenated, ultra processed fats that you find in frozen pizzas and snacks, that sort of shit.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

The more you suffer for your lifestyle, the less likely you'll want to experience that again.

Not from my experience. So many fatties try these crash diets then end up fat again right after they come off them because they never learn to moderate themselves. There's nothing wrong with a slice or 2 of pizza every month and it stops your brain screaming you're starving yourself. Long term changes that you can control are better than acting anorexic and fucking up your brain and body so you can get loads of loose skin. Like the other chap said eat healthy 5 days a week, have fun 2. I wouldn't use that ratio but a bacon sandwich on Sunday morning and a full roast dinner in the evening is not friendly to an extreme diet but it's a solid part of what I consider a healthy diet. 1 day a week you get your full fat no holds barred breakfast and dinner. The rest you eat healthy and then you're not in "diet mode" and you create a better long term balance.

online paid pharmacies is they are putting the people up a dose automatically because it makes more money per pen.

How long until we find out online pharmacies have been giving these to anorexics and killed a bunch of teenage girls?

 

[the printer is outo fink]

I’m torn on this tbh. Obesity WILL kill you. It’s a massive drain on the nhs. It’d be great if people could moderate, but it’s obvious they can’t, or we would t be such a fat country. If I woke up 300lb tomorrow I’d take them.

I agree about obesity but a big part of the reason that people can't moderate is that society as a whole removed a huge part of what can motivate us. We (as a culture) became dishonest. We started by becoming dishonest about how we describe being overweight, using euphemisms like 'curvy.' When I was younger, curvy meant pronounced hourglass. It described the type of figure that's generally viewed as most attractive. And that label was taken and used to describe a figure that most men don't actually view as particularly attractive.

Then we started drawing false choices, like 'being a bit overweight is healthier/more attractive than being malnourished.' Which is obviously true, but it's not healthier or more attractive than being a healthy weight and reasonably athletic. And from there we hit a point where it became a full on political issue and men were demonised for not finding fat attractive, doctors were demonised for pointing out that it's unhealthy to be fat. Body-shaming was a form of violence. We were told you could be healthy at every size. The media promoted fat women as misunderstood and really most attractive.

We lost shame and fear as a motivator. Not eating all the delicious food that's around us, and reasonably cheap and very easy to acquire is hard. But why even try to curb your eating when we are constantly told that you will be not just equally attractive and healthy if you keep doing what's easy, but actually maybe even more attractive and healthy. We aren't honest about just much you lose by not taking full care of yourself. You reduce your speed, endurance, strength and mobility both by carrying too much fat and by not exercising. If we aren't honest about the fact that being fat doesn't look good and doesn't feel good where is the motivator to change our diet and movement habits?

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Then we started drawing false choices, like 'being a bit overweight is healthier/more attractive than being malnourished.' Which is obviously true, but it's not healthier or more attractive than being a healthy weight and reasonably athletic. And from there we hit a point where it became a full on political issue and men were demonised for not finding fat attractive, doctors were demonised for pointing out that it's unhealthy to be fat. Body-shaming was a form of violence. We were told you could be healthy at every size. The media promoted fat women as misunderstood and really most attractive.

Niggers are to blame for a lot of this. In Africa being obese is attractive because it means you have loads of excess food.

Some people have always sat a bit heavier and looked better for it. Some suit being a little underweight. The feminine culture we live in means you're no longer able to call a fatty a fatty. Shaming still exists but it exists in female terms. Women can insult each other through compliments that look sincere to men watching the exchange. But in subtle ways they're communicating in Womanese that means "you're a fat ugly cunt" while verbally saying "you look lovely in that dress, it really suits you". Between women all the shaming is still going on, but there's always so simp or nigger willing to hold their ego up.

 

[Otterly]

Not all fat is bad for you. Drink whole milk, eat good meat. Cut fat off of meat if you know it's high in calories. Nuts are some of the fattiest foods you can find but it's natural fat that fills you up for longer. The fats you want to be avoiding are the hydrogenated, ultra processed fats that you find in frozen pizzas and snacks, that sort of shit.

Yeah there’s a difference in quality. I eat plenty of fat. Full fat milk, yogurt and dairy, I eat the fat on meat. Fatty fish, I like avocados. All that is good fat. Only use butter. Marge tastes like chemicals.
I just don’t eat a lot of any of it. I don’t eat much processed food and I don’t eat much sugar, and I don’t drink my calories. Almost no fizzy pop.
I will, if I really want to, eat cake or crisps or a bit of fizz. I love honey and get through pounds of it a year. We’ve got friends round tonight and there will be cake and ice cream for the kids. Why not?
I think all the diets work, IF you stick to it, it nobody is sticking to cabbage soup or shakes long term. If you’ve got eight stone to lose (well done @Crunkle that is impressive) then you lose it however you can, and along the way hopefully sort out your relationship with food and by the time your weight is ok you need to have something long term you can stick to.
You can lose weight eating macdonalds if you’re in a deficit, but it’s not doing you a lot of good.

We started by becoming dishonest about how we describe being overweight, using euphemisms like 'curvy.'

Totally agree. Sophia loren was curvy. Curvy implies you go in and out at the right places. Not spherical. We used to shame people relentlessly, and what was considered fat when I was a kid is normal now. We’ve lost a lot of the brakes we had on poor behaviour and it’s done us so much damage.
You can say the same for sexual behaviour too - kinks should be shamed, being overly sexual in public should too. Deviant public behaviour should be shamed. Everyone knew people were up to stuff but they kept it hidden.
But it’s everything - I had a girl at my work tell me she had never read a book as an adult, and she was proud of it. That made me feel very odd. Proud of never reading a book.

 

[Cougar Pump]

McD was a cornerstone for me in weight loss. I knew I could get it anywhere, and a Big Mac, salad swapped in for fries, and a coke zero was gonna be 500 calories flat. Very simple to account for when you're not at home where you have full control over portions and nutrition.

 

[Crispy Jakes]

Planning to eat at a calorie deficit is easy, sticking to the boring foods on that journey is difficult.

Planning and doing are two completely different things. Anyone can write an excel sheet. Anyone can download MyFitnessPal. Anyone can tell themselves to eat unprocessed chicken.

You've had your 1500 calories and your body starts screaming out for more food. This is why the vast, vast, vast majority of weight loss attempts fail. It's difficult to silence that for the multiple years it takes for someone to go from PotentiallyCriminal to Normal.

My point being try boring food before needing to stay on drugs for life.

I said eating at a deficit is the difficult part, and eating at a maintenance is considerably easier.
Who mentioned being on drugs for life?

My issue was with the morbidly obese won't take a diabetes medicine that kills appitate because "it's unhealthy", as if eating 8000 calories for several years and ballooning to 500lbs is healthy. It's fat brain.