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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Among all the politico-grifters, Nigel is the one who failed at hiding it the most tbh
 
Eddie Riggs said:
Among all the politico-grifters, Nigel is the one who failed at hiding it the most tbh
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Usually he gives the Tories a bloody nose, gets them to act less gay, then self destructs his vanity party.

This time he’s accidentally murdered the Conservative party and has opened an artery on the Labour Party that is causing them to bleed out.

Maybe he’s realised he’s started something that can’t be stopped.

What I’m hopeful or terrified of is what comes after Farrage has failed because he was just an establishment plant all along.
 
Morgalara said:
Nigel says a lot of things when he feels emboldened enough by current trends to say them. He seems like the opposite of a real leader to me, don't forget about all the Rupert Lowe shenanigans. Using mean girls tactics in big boy politics is beyond fucking embarrassing.
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As a Yank across the pond at least, I'm not expecting much out of him, so if he delivers anything I'll be happy. If he's not a leader though, that's lowkey good for my self interest. It means Britbongistan can be bullied by Trump, since Farage is not gonna have any other major allies to turn to.
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What I’m hopeful or terrified of is what comes after Farrage has failed because he was just an establishment plant all along.
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The Yookay already went off-script with Keir TBH. If ever there was a time for a plant to become the mask, now'd be it.
 
FedPostalService said:
Usually he gives the Tories a bloody nose, gets them to act less gay, then self destructs his vanity party.

This time he’s accidentally murdered the Conservative party and has opened an artery on the Labour Party that is causing them to bleed out.

Maybe he’s realised he’s started something that can’t be stopped.

What I’m hopeful or terrified of is what comes after Farrage has failed because he was just an establishment plant all along.
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Or, the secret hidden HOI4 (Real life edition) path: He was doing a long term 'Secret Hitler' plan all along, and he steps out as PM on the first day like this:
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He was playing everyone all along.
Please?
 
Otterly said:
The British do not chimp out randomly and people expecting some kind of army of darkness to rise up and clear out overnight are unfamiliar with the British psyche.
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It's not even a British thing. Look at countries that have recently had coups and how bad things had to get before then. Haiti had one, how long has it been Hell on Earth there before people finally went, "let's just start a war."?
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TLDR: 70% of all our issues are caused by the ECHR, 1998 Human rights act, and CRAG 2010. These 3 gone, all our immigration problems could fall in rapid succession like dominoes.
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Been reading the Telegraph today? Could have sworn I saw an article reaching the same conclusion.

News time

Civil servant strikes incoming
Civil servants across England have announced they will walk out on strike again over office closures, attendance polices and recruitment strategy.

More than 1,180 members of the Public and Commercial Services Union (PCS) at the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government (MHCLG) will strike on 1 September.

It comes after plans were announced to close offices in Birmingham, Exeter, Newcastle, Sheffield, Truro, and Warrington.

A spokesperson for MHCLG said: "We have engaged and continue to engage extensively with unions and staff to resolve this dispute and do not believe the current action is an appropriate response to the issues raised."
The latest strikes comes more than four months after union members at the MHCLG previously walked out.

The MNCLG spokesperson added: "We will continue to have an office in every English region as well as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and all staff affected will be able to continue in their roles.

"The approach to office attendance is replicated across the Civil Service and has not changed since early 2024."

The MGCLG's joint-headquarters located in Wolverhampton has not been listed for closure.

The strike on 1 September will be followed by "targeted action" which will see more than 170 staff walk out for four weeks, from 2 to 25 September.

The PCS said all members will also continue to take part in action short of a strike.

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A spokesperson said the action would send a "firm message" after ministers allegedly cancelled scheduled meetings with the union about the dispute.

The PCS has said its reps are asking for the following:

  • Alternatives from the department to retain a presence in the locations due to close while also guaranteeing that those in offices that have closed suffer no net loss of income
  • A new recruitment policy to prevent deliberate de-staffing
  • Changes to office attendance policies which includes improved flexibility for staff and default remote working for staff who need and request it
  • Guarantees staff cannot be disciplined or suffer detriment on the grounds of office attendance
PCS general secretary Fran Heathcote said: "Office closures do nothing to serve the department's goal of tackling regional inequalities.

"Ministers will see staff speak with their feet when they return from recess."
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Germany to do something UK courts will say the ECHR won't let them do.
Rejected asylum seekers in Germany could be stripped of their right to a lawyer to speed up deportations.

Friedrich Merz, the chancellor, will abolish a rule that automatically assigns a lawyer to asylum seekers awaiting deportation, even if they have lost their final appeal.

Allies of Mr Merz told The Telegraph that the rule, introduced by a previous government, had mired German courts in red tape and was being used to prolong deportation cases.

The slow pace of deportation proceedings is a tense political issue in Germany, where rejected asylum seekers committed a series of deadly terror attacks over the past year.

Alexander Throm, a senior MP from Mr Merz’s Christian Democrats (CDU) party, told The Telegraph: “We want the rate of deportations to increase, but many deportations fail due to people going into hiding or due to various legal and practical obstacles.

“Deportations must be possible in practice, as well as on paper, and the abolition of mandatory legal counsel is one of several building blocks for the Merz government’s change in course on migration.”

Mr Throm blamed the previous German government, a coalition of the Social Democrats, Greens and liberal Free Democrats, for passing reforms that created delays in deporting people with no right to remain in the country.

He said: “The regulation, which was pushed through by the Greens in the previous government in 2024, led to confusion and increased the burden on the judiciary. This made deportations even more difficult.”

CDU MPs have also raised concerns that such delays increase the risk of an asylum seeker going into hiding, at which point police may give up trying to arrest them.

The proposed law is controversial in Germany, with some experts warning that it could lead to asylum seekers being unlawfully detained because of a lack of legal scrutiny of their cases.

“This is pure populism,” Peter Fahlbusch, a migration lawyer, told TAZ, the German news outlet.

“I have supported over 2,600 clients in detention pending deportation and more than half were unlawfully detained, at least partially.

“On average, they were wrongfully detained for just under four weeks. This shows how necessary lawyers are for these people.”

In a statement, Germany’s interior ministry defended the plans to scrap the mandatory legal support as they would remove “obstacles which keep us from preventing illegal migration”.

The ministry said: “Such mandatory legal representation, which was introduced under the previous government, was an attempt to prevent people who were required to leave the country from being deported, even after all other administrative and court procedures and possibilities for appeal had found that they had no right to remain in Germany.”

The proposed law is part of a wider package of reforms on migration, which was approved by Mr Merz’s cabinet in June and will soon be put to a vote in the Bundestag, the German parliament.

The reforms include plans to expand the number of countries that Germany deems safe, which would also make it quicker and easier for the German authorities to deport asylum seekers.

Pro Asyl, a German refugee rights group, condemned the migration package as “undemocratic and constitutionally questionable”.

But CDU politicians said deportation proceedings must be fast-tracked, as they face pressure to respond to recent terror attacks committed by migrants who had no legal right to be in the country.

Over the past year, three deadly terror attacks were committed by rejected asylum seekers, from Syria and Afghanistan, in the cities of Solingen, Aschaffenburg and Munich.

In the case of Solingen, police had been unable to deport the Syrian perpetrator before he launched the attack because he had recently absconded from his asylum shelter and they had no idea where he was living.

The Solingen case was particularly shocking to Germans as Issa al-Hassan, 26, targeted a music festival celebrating diversity. Hassan said he “deserves and expects a life sentence” after pleading guilty in May to the murders.

Earlier this year, The Telegraph revealed that Germany’s security services were exploring a theory that Russia might have played a role in the spate of politically sensitive terror attacks, which occurred in the run-up to the February 2025 federal elections.

While migration remains a major political issue in Germany, fuelling the rise of the far-Right Alternative for Germany party, the number of asylum seekers has significantly fallen in recent years.

According to recent German government statistics, the number of asylum applications filed in Germany between January and July 2025 stood at around 70,000, a decrease of 50 per cent compared to the same time period of last year.

The reduction in numbers has been linked to tougher German government rhetoric on migration, passport checks at all land borders and, more broadly, the passage of time – with far fewer people fleeing Ukraine, Afghanistan and Syria.

Nevertheless, governments across the EU are under intense pressure from the populist Right to toughen up migration policy, with some hoping to set up offshore processing centres which would be similar to the UK’s failed Rwanda deportation scheme.

In the UK, asylum seekers have access to legal aid which offers free or affordable representation if they meet certain criteria.

It was reported in July that the British Government would increase legal aid fees for asylum cases by a third, increasing the direct costs to the taxpayer from £47m a year to £61m.

Ministers said at the time that the move was necessary to clear the 90,000-strong backlog of asylum claims and end the use of hotels to house migrants.
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Degenerate journoscum suggests 100% inheritance tax.
Social media commentators have described an LBC journalist's suggestion that inheritance tax should be hiked to 100% as "insane". Lewis Goodall said he'd be happy if the tax was boosted to 100% during his radio show on Thursday, arguing that the only legitimate source of income should be from work and not inherited assets from "mummy and daddy". "What we've got at the moment is an aristocracy of wealth in this country," he told listeners. "I'm being provocative, but you see what I mean. I would not be against a far higher rate of inheritance tax than we have at the moment, which is 40% above a certain threshold.

"That helps to fund public services, which helps level the playing field ... and it will help us reduce taxes on income. Because at the end of the day, I want to incentivise work ... You don't have a right to inherit. You should have the right to work while you're alive, and keep more of your own money. That to me is way more important than your right to just inherit some money from mummy and daddy that you did nothing to earn."


However, X users accused the News Agents co-host of "losing the plot" by suggesting that inherited money is not "earned" by someone before being passed down through the family.

"If you cannot work hard to leave your family in a good position when you die, then what's the point in living?" one person asked.

Another added: "You have every right to be given money by your parents because that is their money and they decide what happens to it."

Others took offence to the idea that the state is more deserving of their hard-earned cash than their children and grandchildren.

"You don't have the right to your parents' money but the Government does?" one person questioned. Another said: "I shudder to think how the Government would waste [my money] in just a few seconds."

Some also responded furiously that a 100% inheritance tax would deal a major blow to the UK economy, suggesting that such a move would "drive a mass exodus of British wealth to the United States".


"This is a guaranteed way to watch all of the wealthiest citizens you have permanently leave your shores," they said.

Public policy specialist Lucy Wright added: "Do you want the UK to become a poor, destitute wasteland? That's what would happen if parents cannot leave anything to their children - they would have zero incentive to work."

The existing inheritance tax is charged at a rate of 40% on all an individual's assets above a threshold of £325,000. The unpopular levy can be reduced or avoided in a number of ways, including through a tax-free allowance and giving away a certain amount of money during your lifetime without it counting towards your estate.

Labour announced multiple changes to inheritance tax in the Autumn 2024 Budget, including a shift towards digitisation, a change of policy for non-UK domiciles and the introduction of a 20% levy on farmland and related buildings on estates worth over £1 million.
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Normally I would call this empty bluster but-
Goodall married Tone Langengen, the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change's senior climate and energy policy advisor, in August 2023.
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-it should probably be considered that inheritance tax will be a major target for Labour in the coming budget. With enormous loopholes for the truly rich of course.

In lighter news, Notting Hill!

Detectives are appealing for information three years after a father-to-be was killed at the Notting Hill Carnival.

Takayo Nembhard was stabbed to death on 29 August 2022 under the Westway flyover in Ladbroke Grove, while he was surrounded by several hundred people.

The 21-year-old, who had travelled from Bristol with his friends and sister for the event, died in hospital from a stab wound to the right groin.

Officers made several arrests in the wake of his killing, but no charges have been brought. The Met Police has called for any witnesses to "come forward... to get justice for Takayo and his family".
Det Insp Richard Kempshall, the deputy senior investigating officer on the case, said: "Takayo was a talented rapper who attended Notting Hill Carnival, like so many others, to enjoy the day and the event.

"A mindless act of violence has ensured that his children are without a father. Due to the timing and venue of the attack it is quite likely that many people witnessed the events before, during or after.

"If you are one of these people then please come forward. It is not too late to get justice for Takayo and his family."


His parents, Sandra and Vincent Nembhard, said their son left behind a heartbroken family and two "beautiful boys".

"We don't want them to grow up without knowing someone has been charged with his murder," they said.

"We don't blame the Carnival for our son's murder; it was the action of a small minority. But if you have any information about what happened that day three years ago please come forward."
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One hundred people have been arrested and dozens of weapons seized ahead of this weekend's Notting Hill Carnival, the Metropolitan Police has said.

The arrests, which led to 21 people being recalled to prison, are "intended to disrupt and deter those who the police have reason to believe pose the greatest risk to public safety at carnival", Scotland Yard said.

As part of the operation, officers seized 11 firearms and more than 40 knives with 266 people being given police bail or probation licence conditions not to come to carnival this year.

Cmdr Charmain Brenyah said the arrests would act as "a significant deterrent" for those wanting to "engage in violence and other criminality".
Millions of people are expected at Europe's largest street party which runs from Saturday to Monday.
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Cmdr Brenyah said: "The vast majority come to have fun and enjoy themselves, to celebrate Caribbean culture, to dance, to eat and to go home with nothing but good memories.

"Regrettably we know a minority come with less positive intentions and in recent years this has played out in the form of serious violence including three tragic incidents where lives have been taken."

She added: "Our policing plan makes tackling serious violence a priority which is why we've carried out intelligence-led interventions against those groups and individuals who we have reason to believe pose the greatest risk to the safety of other carnival-goers."


The Met Police commissioner has defended Live Facial Recognition (LFR) technology - which captures people's faces in real-time CCTV cameras - as a tool that helps officers locate people on watch lists, ahead of its use this weekend.

LFR will be used on the approach to and from the carnival as well as outside the boundaries of the event.

Alongside the use of LFR technology, the Met also plans to install screening arches at some of the busiest entry points to the carnival, where stop-and-search powers will be used in a bid to keep weapons out.

Last year, Cher Maximen, 32, was murdered with a zombie knife in front of her three-year-old daughter at the carnival.

Chef Mussie Imnetu was also killed near the carnival.
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A dedicated drone team will be deployed at Notting Hill Carnival by the British Transport Police (BTP) for the first time as part of efforts to keep people safe.

The drones are fitted with four cameras including a wide angle and a zoom where they can identify a person from up to about 80m (260ft) away.

"We have a thermal imaging camera," explains drone operations manager Insp Chris Fells. "If someone is hiding in places that are difficult to see or it's at night we can still locate those people."

The event is the largest street party in Europe, with some two million people expected to attend it over the weekend.
The images captured by the drones can be fed in real time to officers on the ground or back to the control room.

"We also have a laser rangefinder on this which means we can tag an object up to over a kilometre away and actually provide GPS coordinates of that person so that anyone responding to the incident can go to the right place," Insp Fells said.


Asked how the drones and the new control room will help, Supt Dominique Ioannou said: "It's a challenge but the network we've got of extensive cameras plugged into our CCTV hub are critical in making sure that we can keep an eye on things and make sure that everyone's safe.

"Generally we've got exceptional quality cameras that are really good for us in terms of identifying people and bringing offenders to justice. "


Following last year's Carnival, the Met Police warned the biggest risk was a mass casualty crowd crush.

Cdr Charmain Brenyah, from the force, said: "Crowd safety remains a significant concern in Carnival. A lot has been done this year to address that."

This will include the use of live facial recognition technology, which the Met announced it would deploy earlier this week.

While it claims the technology has aided in more than 1,000 arrests for serious crimes, civil rights organisations argue that facial recognition is less accurate for women and people of colour, potentially leading to racial bias.


Matthew Phillip, chief executive of Notting Hill Carnival Ltd, said organisers would keep people safe.

"This year with some extra resources, we've vastly expanded. We've got a large crowd management team and resources around it, including extra cameras and information screens," he said.

Some medics will get around on foot or bike, and it is factored into training. Peter Hollely-Robins, from St John Ambulance, said: "We do lots of simulation exercises to prepare and we work very closely with the police."

Those using public transport to get to Carnival have been advised to check their route, with closures or changes affecting nearly all of the Tube stations in the area, as well as bus diversions being put in place.

Transport for London's (TfL) Carl Eddleston said: "Some of the bigger stations like Paddington are about a 15 minute walk away and probably better places to go too, because they are obviously built and designed for big crowds."

TfL has a dedicated website, external showing the best and quickest options for people to use.
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Made In Wales said:
Then the Judges will be removed as well.

New rules under Reform UK.

Nigel is only the start of the change, and I agree he should only be there to instigate it.
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Removing a judge in the UK is an extremely complicated and lengthy process by design that requires the involvement of the King and both houses of Parliament to participate in a trial. This isn't going to happen on any regular basis, if at all (the process hasn't been used for two centuries). Making it easier to remove judges would require a new law that would almost certainly be heavily resisted.

Regardless, I think you're putting far too much hope in Reform. Reform's largest donor and (current?) party chair is a muslim and Farage seems quite content with keeping Islam within the borders of the UK. I see very little revolutionary ire in Reform or Farage to be honest and I think his talk of mass deportations is hot air, he doesn't really have his finger on the pulse as to just how bad the immigration situation is. Just stopping immigration and deporting illegals isn't going to do much to reverse an already self-sufficient and substantial multi-generational migrant population that largely possesses citizenships. For that you need remigration and a law that priviledges the native population. "Remigration" and "natives" are words Farage will never utter and yet even if we implimented Farage's policies right now the British people will still be a minority in a few decades, because the legal immigration population is far outpaing the native population.

In fact the only reason I'll vote Reform is to help snuff out any hope the British people have of the current system fixing itself because Reform is inevitably going to spend five years in government getting bogged down by the entrenched and very widespread bureaucracy that will stonewall and slow a Reform govt down anyway it can. It would take Reform three parliament terms to dig out the old bureaucracy and rebuild it anew, which is what Tony Blair did but most parties don't get Tony Blair level of time to do that, especially not with an increasingly impatient and sectarian population.
 
I'm going to be honest. Let's ironman this situation and assume that Reform does as promised and actually deports them all.
I don't really want them alive. I know that bongo land is already full of identical clones but do we really want a giant swathe of undesirables poised to come back and do it all again in 50 years?
 
Otterly said:
No. course not. There is a slow simmer however, and it may get to the point where action is forced, one way or another.
The British do not chimp out randomly and people expecting some kind of army of darkness to rise up and clear out overnight are unfamiliar with the British psyche.
This cannot be fixed with the techniques the state has been using.
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Yea I highly doubt nige will be shoving people on planes any time soon, it's just more politician lies. One thing that people aren't considering is the psychological factor. These people are economic migrants. Electing someone who says this shit will send the very clear message of 'you are not welcome; fuck off', when these people are coming here because they (correctly) think it's a nice cushy place to live and leech off the state, telling them that no we are not actually that nice should at least make this country look less appealing to these leeches.
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Perth? We have a fucking Perth? Is there anything those fucking aussies didn't steal from us? Fucking cultural appropriation, next they'll be saying they're all ethnically English or some fucking woke bullshit.
Eddie Riggs said:
Among all the politico-grifters, Nigel is the one who failed at hiding it the most tbh
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Yea I think we should just bring back carl. The best politician. I hear he's going to start sharing his milkshakes, for every migrant he deports he's going to donate a milkshake to a random supporter.
Kofi Drinka said:
what do you consider a low-stage civil conflict?
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A whole summer of riots, the entire country in protest, a large portion of the country fucking hating the entire political system. I wouldn't say 'conflict' more 'unrest'. But I would say that yea, a pretty low intensity of civil unrest does describe this country pretty well.
 
The difficulty for Reform UK is, currently, the media narrative.

Nigel knows that sometimes saying nothing or very little will mean that the media back away - if he doesn't make an 'inflammatory' comment then the media aren't gawping and howling.

Therefore, sometimes, it's easier to keep quiet and make the enemy make fools of themselves.

The culture shift is happening and is the precursor for what is to come.

Also don't worry about LBC and Goodall, let's actually praise them as they are doing the donkey's work with pushing more and more people towards Reform UK. If you have a YT account, reply to Lewis with 'Bravo Reform UK Agent #45439'. The thickos who worship them would sperg out if they thought that Lewis or LBC was a Reform UK honey trap ;)

Just remember that the movement of Reform UK is more than Nigel Farage - he's the manager we need to win the league, but the manager we need to stay at the top is yet to come.

Oh, and @Crunkle


 
Crunkle said:
Poor Mold. I doubt there will be a single one planning on staying open by the end of the year. Now, 30,000 men who we know nothing about are moving into...private, unseen HMOs...ah shit.
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Plus, in these hotels, cholera and typhoid are apparently rife.

These only have to merge with the plague (which is back upon these shores) and we'll have a worse virus than Covid 19 which will actually wipe out a large amount of people.

The fact that it's mainly Niggers and Jeetshitters who'll die shouldn't make us totally chuckle as White Brits will also be affected,

Lockdown will be as effective as Dianne Abbott in a battle of wits contest against Zippy from Rainbow.

Some late news (beware of paywalls):


REVEALED: How one 'dreadful' secret email risks Tory defection deluge to Nigel Farage's Reform UK




Patriotic flag raisers attacked with 'petrol bombs' after hanging St George's crosses in community but they say 'it won't stop us':




Muslim Apprentice star who was forced to flee her home for 'condemning extremists' tells GB News she 'faced death threats':




'It is kicking off here!' Thousands of protesters BLOCK OFF Liverpool City centre as GB News star blasts police for 'very bad decision':




Labour postpones decision over Chinese mega embassy in London after Beijing REFUSES to explain details of 'secret basement':




Hotel set to be restored to former glory as community rallies together to bring derelict building back to life:




Farage and Jenrick have an ace up their sleeve: they must bury the hatchet and sink Labour – Colin Brazier:




Lib Dem council leader claims St George's Flag is 'intimidating':


 
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I took a trip down to the city centre today to observe the protests from above in the comfort of an office block I have access to. Even though my city is quite left leaning, a decent amount of 100 or so anti-migrant protestors were out with their flags and such.

The police were moving them around the centre so they didn't stay in one place too long (amazing how it seemed every officer in the force could be available for this) which meant they were constantly being moved into high footfall areas. Eventually the police shoved everyone into a large park and just kept them seperated, a significantly larger amount of counter protestors showed up at this point almost all at once.

Not sure what to make of this, I would wager that a lot of these counter protestors were bussed in given the way they all showed up at once with identical signs.
 
BrightonAndHoveAlbion said:
Not sure what to make of this, I would wager that a lot of these counter protestors were bussed in given the way they all showed up at once with identical signs.
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They are indeed, same for the Extinction Rebellion protests.

One day, a group is going to surround them as they get off their buses and kick the shit out of them.

When the Police can't or won't defend them, they will squeal.

Reminds me of when Cardiff City used to jump Millwall, Bristol City, Chelsea, Swansea City etc. by Ninian Park and the Police could do nothing - catch them by surprise and they'll try and run.
 
Sensitive Young Man said:
From the outside looking in, you guys are already in a low-stage civil conflict.
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They aren't quite there yet, but its going to get that way if nothing changes. Noticed British guys in the USPG thread were painting red crosses above muzzie and indian storefronts. After nearly 300 years, rebellion has returned to the British spirit. Will it last or fizzle out? We will see.
 
BrightonAndHoveAlbion said:
Not sure what to make of this, I would wager that a lot of these counter protestors were bussed in given the way they all showed up at once with identical signs.
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They were probably bussed in but any group doing this will meet up far from the protest. You have to go as a group or you risk being jumped on your own. Same reason when you're leaving situations like this you never do it alone. You want 4 or 5 blokes going together and keeping an eye out for people following. Take a few wrong turns and get home the long way. Avoids you getting a brick on the head.
 
BrightonAndHoveAlbion said:
Not sure what to make of this, I would wager that a lot of these counter protestors were bussed in given the way they all showed up at once with identical signs.
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It's why the plod was shuffling them about before they put them in the park, would be my guess. Had to buy some time for the TOTALLY ORGANIC and 100% AUTHENTIC counter-protestors to show up from wherever the fuck they spawn in at.
 
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