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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I can confirm the Civil Service issue is happening outside of Wales too. Got a bunch of mates who work for HMRC and a few who work for other Civil Service areas (plus seem to bump into probation officers pretty regularly) and the general feeling is that things are beyond fucked. A few have mentioned that the entire Civil Service might need to be rebuilt department by department because it's that fundamentally broken.

Minimum wage increases + reduction in Civil Service budgets + National Insurance rises for employers + population increases have essentially fucked any department on four fronts where everyone is required to do much more with much less. To top it off, go check civilservicejobs (can't remember the website name but just google it) and see how few posts are actually available in your area and just how low the pay is.
 
Tom Nook's Gloryhole said:
and a few who work for other Civil Service areas (plus seem to bump into probation officers pretty regularly) and the general feeling is that things are beyond fucked.
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HMRC fucked itself with the IR35 changes and has never recovered. Turns out a significant number of their staff were contractors, who fell foul of the rule change and decided to fuck off. They tried carving out an exception for them but it was too late. IR35 has been a disaster since its inception
 
I'll expand on the Civil Service issue because to anyone who has never dealt with anything related to it, the whole thing might sound like some form of existential nightmare.

So first of all, you want to join the Civil Service (first mistake) you apply for a role and lets just pretend it's something entirely entry level like data admin for DEFRA. You go through the most bizarre application process known to man where you use the STAR system to explain your answers.

Then you hear nothing for 1.5 months. Each post on the Civil Service jobs website is left up there for about a month before they even begin sifting the applications and that takes them about a month too because no manager has any time to go through the applications.

So you get a call about an interview a fortnight from now. You go to the interview, do the same STAR questions and think you've done a good job.

Then you wait for another three weeks of radio silence until you get a response, either you didn't get the job so you've wasted at this point 2.5 months of your time or you DID get the job which means you start next we- oh.

Nope, you send off a form to do an advanced check, turns out that nothing you've done so far has actually been vetted. That takes a good month and a half minimum and can take up to 6 months. Finally you've passed that and have a start date (another two weeks from now)

So you finally enter the office for the first time to do your onboarding. From application to entering the office it has taken approximately 6 months. In some extreme cases it could take over a year. If you were unemployed you're probably starving to death by now and if you were in a job looking for something else you've probably found a much better job by now.

In contrast, if you've worked there for 3 years your notice period is about 4 weeks. Plus the job application can't go out until after the employee has worked their last day. Do the maths. It can take nearly a YEAR to replace someone who has left their post so every single department is understaffed with extra pressure remaining on the other staff. Some departments have already had their death spiral moment where one person left and while waiting for a replacement another person left and as a result of that another person left.

The whole thing is a joke and I genuinely wish some sort of DOGE unit happened in the UK because replacing Debra's who have worked there for 20 years and can't type while looking at a screen with a bunch of autistic men would see almost every major issue dissolve in months.
 
Any of you guys drive on the motorway recently? I've just driven from <NORF> to London and almost every bridge was adorned with a St George's flag or Union Jack. And this is still going as far south as Oxford. The times they are a-changing I think.
 
Clem Fandango said:
Any of you guys drive on the motorway recently? I've just driven from <NORF> to London and almost every bridge was adorned with a St George's flag or Union Jack. And this is still going as far south as Oxford. The times they are a-changing I think.
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This is huge, it means the British are gearing up to fight as they've basically declared that this is their land. A flag is declaring that this land belongs to the nation the flag represents.
 
Mister Fister said:
This is huge, it means the British are gearing up to fight as they've basically declared that this is their land. A flag is declaring that this land belongs to the nation the flag represents.
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I've been driving more than 20 years and I've never seen it like today. I feel like it's getting into "daring someone to take it down" territory. Feels good.
 
I'm really trying hard to resist this Americanised "fight fight fight!!!" rhetoric but it's admittedly a bit infectious. I saw loads of St. George's flags on my way into a city today.
 
Clem Fandango said:
Any of you guys drive on the motorway recently? I've just driven from <NORF> to London and almost every bridge was adorned with a St George's flag or Union Jack. And this is still going as far south as Oxford. The times they are a-changing I think.
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Seen a few Welsh and British ones around Newport and Swansea - even in West Wales there's one or two of them together.

The strangest one I've seen is a Welsh one with 'Plaid & Reform united against Labour scum'.

I think that one was a cheeky response to Eluned Morgan saying that Rhun ap Iorwerth and Nigel Farage were the same kind of dangerous person.
 
Don't be shy about your flags, lads, it's your land, and as you're learning, if you don't stake your claim, someone else will.
Get the St. George's Cross out, every bloody where, show us haggis shaggers how it's done.
So proud of me English neighbours, it's about fucking time.
 
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HMRC fucked itself with the IR35 changes and has never recovered.
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Remember when you had Inland Revenue, HM Customs & Excise and the Police Regional Crime Squads? Each one had a distinct role and assigned matters.

Then things got fucked up.

HMRC set up, combining IR and HMC&E departments

SOCA set up combining the HMC&E's drugs investigators with Police Regional Crime Squads

Border Agency set up taking the Border staff from HMRC and combining them with Immigration staff.

SOCA obviously failed, as it was rebranded as National Crime Agency.

Border Agency failed too, rebranded as Border Force, and failing worse than ever.

A lesson for "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

I am not as naive to think IR, HMC&E and Regional Crime Squads didn't have their issues, but they could have overcome without totally weakening and ruining them all.
 
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Border Agency failed too, rebranded as Border Force, and failing worse than ever.
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Force or Farce?

Some news (not much today because majorly busy):


Wayne Rooney calls for points deductions to punish racism in football:




Idiot.

1) Who is to say what is/isn't 'racist' or 'offensive'...?
2) Who will the arbiter be?
3) If and when a club/fan is found to be innocent of making a racist comment, can Rooney be sued as it's his idea?
4) Should false reporting of incidents also be deemed as offensive and perps punished similarly?
 
Anyone else sick of the highway maintenance gimps not cleaning up after themselves? Had some roadworks done on the main road couple of months ago, large sign for "4 way traffic lights" and cones still lying on the grass verge next to the school where they dumped it...

Which also relates to this fence panel that fell off nearly thirty years ago and is still lying in the grass by one of the main roads in my town. Wrote to the council about it, just went round in circles with those chumps.
 
El Gordo Ramsay Sex Dwarf said:
Which also relates to this fence panel that fell off nearly thirty years ago and is still lying in the grass by one of the main roads in my town. Wrote to the council about it, just went round in circles with those chumps.
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spray paint a cock or something transphobic on it. It’ll be gone in a day
 
Can’t reply to people because the site is having a spaz. Regarding flags. Yes and I hate being non specific to stay anonymous.

Regarding football?
2) Some pikey granny shagger.
We already have a system where you can send texts reporting abuse during a game and with how hi def cameras are now they can check a whole stadium, which I am proud to have used when some away fans started mimicking a young non functioning lad in our disabled section and made him cry. Point being unless we can order bananas to um bongo on the away bench ala weatherspoons style then Wayne’s complaint is obsolete.
 
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Wayne Rooney calls for points deductions to punish racism in football:
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I'm now envisioning footballers taking a dive upon passing other players by like a meter, acting physically wounded, and the other player getting red carded because Mbongo says "He called me a nigger, ref!"
This is a hilarious mental image.
Thank you Wayne, you hideous goblin creature, I will go back to not thinking of your stupid fucking failure face for a decade.
 
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Force or Farce?

Some news (not much today because majorly busy):


Wayne Rooney calls for points deductions to punish racism in football:




Idiot.

1) Who is to say what is/isn't 'racist' or 'offensive'...?
2) Who will the arbiter be?
3) If and when a club/fan is found to be innocent of making a racist comment, can Rooney be sued as it's his idea?
4) Should false reporting of incidents also be deemed as offensive and perps punished similarly?
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Lol, I'm imagining some footballer having a PewDiePie moment when a black gentlemen scores a facking goal, ending their season and making them bankrupt.
 
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