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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Good teaching is a dying art. Most people have that one teacher that changed them for the better, although I don't know how true that is nowadays. Further education seems to be a popular choice because boomers tell their kids that's how to get employed (lol). Imagine how unemployment will build up every year with recent grads who also can't find a job.
Those good teachers are usually the ones who aren't interested in that. I had more than a few who had delusions of grandeur about themselves. No doubt they were influenced by advertising material, encouraging people to go into teaching. All of them were young and impressionable, so their efforts came across as patronizing, insincere and trite, focussed solely upon their own good feefees and sense of self aggrandizement.

My most favorite teacher was in first school and lived around the corner from us. She was just great and taught me so much about so many things. She had been teaching since before the national curriculum so had been allowed free-reign to teach and had never lost the habit. She once told me, when I met her as an adult, that teaching, in her view, was seeing a childs mind as a fire lit, not a vessel to be filled, but the introduction of the national curriculum changed that.

She was, when she was my teacher, holding out for her pension for those last few years,but was still as kind and empathetic and decent as dhe ever was.
 
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I'm not sure of the value of modern science education either. I assume it's all global warming and girl dick at this point.
That's been going for a fair bit. I strongly recall getting detention in highschool because I caused my jeeta biology teacher to have a meltdown by standing up for the concept of designer babies, the only one who didn't buy the bullshit presentation she put on.
"Oh no, we'll be able to stop children being born with horrible mental and physical deformities."
"But what if people start using it to make babies more intelligent, or more beautiful?!"
"Good?????"

If it is guaranteed to always work, there is literally no reason not to engage in these practices.
 
It should be made easier for people with a lot of experience in their professional field to become teachers (primarily in college/Uni). I bounced out of the education system into specialist professional work at an early age and I'm now at a point where I'd like to give something back, but I'm unable to as I lack the required pieces of paper.
I know of several other professionals who feel the same way.
When I attempted to make progress on this, I was met with a bureaucratic wall of indifference, I mistakenly assumed the institutions would be crying out for individuals with battle experience to pass on to the youth, but doesn't seem like it.
They should have a fast track system for ingesting more lecturers and teachers into the system who haven't gone down the traditional academic route.
 
It benefits the entrenched interests: the conveyancers, the solicitors, the agencies, the search carry-outerers (term of art), and of course the tax man. They all get to skim money from the process for doing essentially nothing. They had a purpose in the distant past, when communication was slow and information wasn't easily accessible, but not today. It has become the model for the modern regulatory state; a layer of middle-men, who slow down the process and provide no tangible benefit, but who are considered "productive" because money changes hand.
I saw a house that was for sale overseas, and I put an offer in on it. Within four weeks, I had completed the purchase and had the deeds.

The agreed a sale on my house in the UK, took SEVEN MONTHS to complete from the date I accepted the buyers offer. No amount of hurrying up the various people involved from both myself and my buyer had any effect.
 
I'm not sure of the value of modern science education either. I assume it's all global warming and girl dick at this point.
Well, the discussion of whether something is taught well, is a separate topic to whether it should be taught. Though equally important.

It should be made easier for people with a lot of experience in their professional field to become teachers (primarily in college/Uni). I bounced out of the education system into specialist professional work at an early age and I'm now at a point where I'd like to give something back, but I'm unable to as I lack the required pieces of paper.
Add one more. I've a tonne of industry experience and I think teaching would be very rewarding. And I believe I can still remember who to calculate the area of a circle as demonstrated previously. But can I afford to take a few years out of my life to become one? I don't know. Maybe it's possible to make it work. I've considered it but I think what I need is to talk to actual teachers and see what their level of despair is. If by the time I became a teacher they're locking people up for saying there are only two sexes and gender is a language construct, if the state is mandating your lesson plans and everything is just teaching to the exam, it'd be pretty depressing to go through all that to only then find out this was what awaited me.

Also, I hear salaries are not great.

That's been going for a fair bit. I strongly recall getting detention in highschool because I caused my jeeta biology teacher to have a meltdown by standing up for the concept of designer babies, the only one who didn't buy the bullshit presentation she put on.
"Oh no, we'll be able to stop children being born with horrible mental and physical deformities."
"But what if people start using it to make babies more intelligent, or more beautiful?!"
"Good?????"

If it is guaranteed to always work, there is literally no reason not to engage in these practices.
The primary problem with eugenics, is the question of who gets to do it. The individual of the state? It's the difference between you having a gun and someone else having a gun. What matters is whose hands it in.
 
I saw a house that was for sale overseas, and I put an offer in on it. Within four weeks, I had completed the purchase and had the deeds.

The agreed a sale on my house in the UK, took SEVEN MONTHS to complete from the date I accepted the buyers offer. No amount of hurrying up the various people involved from both myself and my buyer had any effect.
We're looking for a new place (the enshittification of where we are had started, originally with illegals in a local hotel") and have found ourselves looking for those magic words, " no ongoing chain". Seems like lots of boomers are desperate to sell. We've found a place, absolutely covered in fucking wood chip wallpaper but we've dealt with that before so can again.
we once spent a very, very hot day getting the blasted fucking stuff off the bedroom ceiling. As we finished his nibs said, oh I think I'll go for a hanging ceiling. I could have fucking buried him, I had to tell him, I'm going down to bottom of garden to angry smoke a couple of cigs, leave me alone for ten minutes
 
We've found a place, absolutely covered in fucking wood chip wallpaper but we've dealt with that before so can again.
Horrible stuff-why the Hell it was so popular is a mystery. A house we bought had every room papered in it, then that was coated in silk emulsion paint. We split up a couple of years later (not due to the woodchip) and sold the house with 2 rooms still to strip and redecorate.

Is it woodchip still sold?
 
The primary problem with eugenics, is the question of who gets to do it. The individual of the state? It's the difference between you having a gun and someone else having a gun. What matters is whose hands it in.
You can make the argument that the UK government already performs Nazi esque Eugenics, only they figured out that it's better to house the rapists in a camp and the women outside.

As for designer babies. The best argument against it is the amount of dead/mutated babies on the road to achieve it, but because the left has decided that abortion should be legal, no matter what, they stick to a bizarre socialistic "equal rights" argument that won't be feasible for decades.
 
Add one more. I've a tonne of industry experience and I think teaching would be very rewarding. And I believe I can still remember who to calculate the area of a circle as demonstrated previously. But can I afford to take a few years out of my life to become one? I don't know. Maybe it's possible to make it work. I've considered it but I think what I need is to talk to actual teachers and see what their level of despair is. If by the time I became a teacher they're locking people up for saying there are only two sexes and gender is a language construct, if the state is mandating your lesson plans and everything is just teaching to the exam, it'd be pretty depressing to go through all that to only then find out this was what awaited me.

Also, I hear salaries are not great.

Yeah that's a good point about being straight jacketed into a shitty curiculum. I guess it depends on the discipline and inherent flexibility around that, myself I'm in a creative field, so maybe I'd have a chance to be a pretentious wanker teacher inspiring the kids in my own way ala Dead Poets or something I don't know, that's sorta what I see in my head, being the narcissist I am.
Another point though, I guess if you are approaching the end of your career, it's more like a final jamboree rather than some long term career path, a busman's holiday if you will, so maybe lot of the irritating stuff wouldn't be as big an issue, nor the salary.
 
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Nigel Farage accuses Labour of 'hating St George's cross' as flag row erupts over Minister's outburst:




Late Queen 'refused to open airport' after her cousin, Lord Ivan Mountbatten, was stopped from bringing shotguns on plane:




Labour donor Dale Vince splits leafy town by unveiling Palestine flag - while councils tear down Union Jacks:




Sally Rooney risks committing 'terror offence' if she uses BBC royalties to fund Palestine Action:


 
It benefits the entrenched interests: the conveyancers, the solicitors, the agencies, the search carry-outerers (term of art), and of course the tax man. They all get to skim money from the process for doing essentially nothing. They had a purpose in the distant past, when communication was slow and information wasn't easily accessible, but not today. It has become the model for the modern regulatory state; a layer of middle-men, who slow down the process and provide no tangible benefit, but who are considered "productive" because money changes hand.
Can confirm, nearly lost out on my house purchase as I ended up with a dud of a solicitor who sat on her arse most of the time and nearly let the deadline pass. It took myself, our contact at the property firm, and the council all yelling at her and her firm to get shit done for it to actually happened. She still ended up with a fat paycheck through the gov bonus from the HTB scheme, wanker. At least I have a house now (and cheap, too). Still took fucking ages to get but we got it before the gov shafted us. They also did a paper-free digital process, but that was a pain in the arse and it actually costed money unlike the old fashioned process of paper and mail, what's the fucking point?

On the topic of education, the difference of good and shit teachers continues all the way up to even PhD. In HS/6th I had multiple fantastic science teachers who were formerly of their fields and so were genuinely passionate. A shit supervisor even at uni level can make your passion vanish incredibly fast. I never really cared for English, but that's probably because my English teacher in HS was a genuine alcoholic who slept in his car in the school parking lot, and kept both porn mags and whiskey in his classroom supply cabinet.
 
Horrible stuff-why the Hell it was so popular is a mystery. A house we bought had every room papered in it, then that was coated in silk emulsion paint. We split up a couple of years later (not due to the woodchip) and sold the house with 2 rooms still to strip and redecorate.

Is it woodchip still sold?
I hope not, it should be considered a crime.

In fairness to you and your ex, wood chip would be reasonable grounds to split up imo. The only thing worse is that skimmed, textured plaster on ceilings.
 
Council wins bid to stop hotel housing asylum seekers (bbc)

A council has won its High Court bid to temporarily block asylum seekers from being housed at The Bell Hotel in Essex – despite a late bid by the government to intervene.

The injunction was sought by Epping Forest District Council to stop migrants being placed at the venue in Epping, which is owned by Somani Hotels Limited.

Thousands of people have protested near the site in recent weeks after an asylum seeker living there was charged with sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl.

Mr Justice Eyre made his judgement after refusing an 11th hour effort from Home Secretary Yvette Cooper to get the council's case dismissed.

The Home Office had warned the outcome would "substantially impact" its ability to house asylum seekers in hotels across the UK.
 
bUt ItS jUsT tHeIr CuLtUrE!!!!!1111

As much as I want to revel in being vindicated about all this (I've said since Blair opened the floodgates this would happen) I just can't.
"Don't be such a bigot, it's just their culture that the only way women can even feel slightly safe is to cover up every last bit of their body in pitch black cloth!"
"But... why is that?"
"Shut up, bigot!"

Imagine having rape so ingrained into your DNA that it is law for women to wear such clothing lest subhuman 'men' instantly start raping uncontrollably.
Why didn't they believe us?
 
Am I imagining this or did someone post up thread about illegals running food businesses from the hotels they're at?

There's a hotel housing them near where we live and a burger place being run out of the kitchen there. I strongly suspect it's run by illegals.

Anyone got any suggestions for how to find out if it is? Would a FofI request get me on a list somewhere?
 
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