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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

I have never seen people this pissed off over such a broad range of issues. This kind of rage was for specific things - the pits closing, the poll tax, etc.

"The issue" right now is immigration. It's got too big to just ignore and no where feels safe any more. I know we're preaching to the choir but if immigration wasn't like it is I think a lot of this anger wouldn't be there. It's the specific act of picking them over us while we pay that drives the anger. And there's no where to flee from it any more so everyone is getting it rubbed in their face.

There was an old left that was decent?

No. But you won't convince the middle class that the left has always been scum. The left didn't change how it acted, it just changed it's victim class.

 

[Otterly]

There was an old left that was decent?

There was a labour movement in the north that at grass roots was often decent. The kind of people who worked locally to do things like get showers installed at the pit heads so the miners didn’t go home covered in dust.
Was that the parliamentary Labour Party? Or the left as a thing? No it wasn’t, but the people voting I don’t think saw that. There’s a lot of inertia and a lot of tribalism.
Tony Blair woke quite a few of us up. I loathed him, and I saw a lot of previous lefties get a bit uneasy when he came to power. The left as a movement has never been decent. People working locally have been (for each side, to be fair about it.) good local MPs and good local councillors existed. Not enough of them, and fewer and fewer as time went by and it became a political class coming up through PPE degrees with zero root in the constituency
Immigration is the main issue but it’s not isolated to immigration. EVERYTHING is bad. Hosepipe bans when we know they’re paying themselves millions in bonuses and won’t build new infrastructure . The nhs on its knees and has been for years. The general shitting upon of the population. Covid.
People are mad. They’ve been gaslit into thinking everyone else thought differently and as soon as the grip on the media wavered a bit they’ve realised they were lied to.
I hope they get madder and madder. They should be far more angry

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

I'm sure everyone is very upset about the Ricky Jones case, but you have to understand, he has different cultural values to us, where he comes from, it's perfectly natural for a man to call for the deaths of those who he disagrees with, and we can't judge him on his different values.

 

[pisswomble]

I'd love to have seen Starmer's face when that not guilty verdict was reported to him, even he can't be so deluded as to not realise how disastrous this is for labour (and him) going forward.

I'd be shitting myself right now if I was on that jury, not from the far right or even the right or just people in the middle who've had enough, but from the people in charge who are going to be furious this hasn't resolved itself.

On the other hand, Farage must be having a crazy party given the week he's been handed. Keeps getting win after win by doing absolutely nothing.

 

[A-Logato]

I’ve seen similar and i think people where I’m from have traditionally been either country (Tory, farming) or village (pits, labour) because of how the parties have related to the labour force and their concerns. Generations have voted left because they assumed left was something and they’re realising that left isn’t that at all. They wanted worker solidarity, better conditions, a health service and what they’ve been served up is mass immigration, the industries smashed and never replaced, and the infrastructure crumbling.

I spent a lot of my life in "the red wall" and going back every so often is a shock, more so when I talk to the older people there who were around during Thatcher's reign. These are die hard, socialist worker types from the 1970's and 80's who were all in the unions so their very different to a modern socialist and it really shows when you get talking to them.

I do have my respects for them, they genuinely wanted better for the workers of the time and the commie stuff mostly seemed to be forced or snuck past them (though I do disagree with them on other stuff). Once they talk about new Labour (Blair Labour) you get to see how genuinely mad they are that they were used, betrayed and left to rot. Mostly with immigration being used to import waves after waves of new workers who massively reduced their wages in the 90's and destroyed their standard of living almost as much, if not more then Thatcher did. Never mind when you talk to them about Starmer and what he and his cronies have done in only a year and plan to do.

A lot of them swear they will never vote Labour again with a lot of them leaving any union that their still a part of. Interesting people to talk to at times.

 

[Symbol of the Chud]

Also the name "Ricky Jones" just makes me think of the bad guy from Robocop, Dick Jones.

 

[Turbo Sperg]

My schizo-level conspiracy theory is that the UK government publicly funded the Oasis reunion so that when another child gets raped to death by Pakis they can send them out to play "Don't Look Back in Anger" so the niggercattle are appeased.

That could backfire. If there was a terrorist attack that took place somewhere in the UK during the tour, and the government had an agreement for some 'controlled spontanaiety', I'm not sure. Considering their working class upbringing, and the fact they're from Manchester so they're aware of the diversity and all the joys that brings, there's a chance that they don't just play 'Don't Look Back in Anger'. I think there's the possibility one of them goes off rez and calls for Total Paki Death instead.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Generally speaking, when societies make a move, it's like a glacier cleaving off into the ocean.

Or rolling over.

 

[EddyRooney]

First off I'm American and not a bit Irish. Be honest you all wish Thatcher died on that shitter in Brighton. Who needs Semtex and AR-18 when Brits will destroy themselves. Total Catholic victory your King is a whore, your PM is a atheist Jew, and all the good immigrants have left for better countries in the EU.

Shut up you shit shovelling, potato munching, bog leaping Paddy prick. I bet you live in a caravan, have never seen indoor plumbing and have an uncle called Seamus.

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Anybody know the demography of the jury in Snaresbrook ? Wiki claimed Snaresbrook was 57% White British in 2011. So that would be about 5% updated for today ?

 

[evrae]

Generally speaking, when societies make a move, it's like a glacier cleaving off into the ocean. A lot of little things build up to it, and then a bunch goes at once. I wonder how many of them were repeating leftoid shit just because they thought it was chic, in vogue, or "the right thing to do," and then here comes foreign leaders shaming your nation on a national stage, the migrant crisis is ever mounting, Baz had to give up his pint at the pub because his rent got hiked again, there's that fuel allowance for the elderly that got cut, they looked up that Coinbase ad their mates may or may not have looked up which could only be made by Brits given just how polite and dripping with seething hatred at the state of things it was... on and on until eventually they find out that no, it is not in fact socially enforced that this matters, no, Starmer is not your friend even if you lean left, and no, ain't shit changing until you give up the damn politeness and start telling people to bugger off.

Were they always lefties, or did they just talk a big game for conformity's sake?

They're lefties, it's now piss easy for me to convince them to like guns just by putting an anti-gov slant to it, and then if they still don't budge I use that one pro-gun quote from Marx. It's surprising how easy it is for me to have people side with my opinions now.

I think the squeeze of being able to afford jack-shit, the whole Israel shit, as well as rapey illegal sandniggers (we've had a couple of those already), have made them snap. Hell, I can convince them on anything I say by just putting an anti-government slant to it, to them if it'd make the political class cry it's fair game to them.

I've heard them say stuff I wouldn't repeat on here because it's fedposting-tier, to put it lightly, and that wasn't without any prompting on my part.

 

[An Idle Observer]

I've heard them say stuff I wouldn't repeat on here because it's fedposting-tier, to put it lightly, and that wasn't without any prompting on my part.

Well damn. If it's too spicy for the farms you know it's serious.

I use that one pro-gun quote from Marx. It's surprising how easy it is for me to have people side with my opinions now.

I'd keep an eye on your back. Temporarily embarrassed Marxists have a tendency to mistake those for knife holders....

OK even more than usual for Britain.

Hell, I can convince them on anything I say by just putting an anti-government slant to it, to them if it'd make the political class cry it's fair game to them.

Maybe it's me, but this is the kind of thing I'd want to raise to them. If that's all you need to do, that kinda tells me these aren't leftists, they're just people currently existing on the left but have nothing really developed that's keeping them there, if that makes sense.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

That could backfire. If there was a terrorist attack that took place somewhere in the UK during the tour, and the government had an agreement for some 'controlled spontanaiety',

That major tom or whoever who walked round his garden 100 times with less footage than Bonnie blue was ‘controlled spontaneously’.
Literally a week afterwards they thanked him amongst other former members of the services for doing their duty as asked.

 

[Made In Wales]

Well damn. If it's too spicy for the farms you know it's serious.

I'd keep an eye on your back. Temporarily embarrassed Marxists have a tendency to mistake those for knife holders....

OK even more than usual for Britain.

Maybe it's me, but this is the kind of thing I'd want to raise to them. If that's all you need to do, that kinda tells me these aren't leftists, they're just people currently existing on the left but have nothing really developed that's keeping them there, if that makes sense.

I think that most of them identify as Left in order to be seen as cool or acceptable.

Even when supposed dyed in the wool lefties like 'Cold War Steve' on Twitter/X are now attacking the Government he voted for more so than Nigel and Kemi then perhaps the mind control of Labour has failed.

It's only conformity or maybe even stubbornness that's keeping the remaining ones there. When you meet a decent one (and there's a few out there) who will at least debate fairly, you realise that we have more in common than we don't - most of us want a free, fair, functioning society where nobody is left out and it's only things like Brexit which we disagree on.

 

[Kofi Drinka]

Hating labour is the latest fad. A lot of the people doing it are following like sheep. The government doesn't care. Unless people start putting car bombs outside their offices it's business as usual. Can any one remember a government that was liked? I can't remember one in my life time. Even the big events like Blair winning were like 3 months of "Hurrah something different" then right back to "Fucking wankers. Should hang the lot of 'em". The desire to hang politicians is the one universal trait of every government I can remember. They've always been hated and they know it, but no one ever acts on it so they consider the population too passive to be a danger to them.

 

[Eddie Riggs]

Hating labour is the latest fad. A lot of the people doing it are following like sheep. The government doesn't care. Unless people start putting car bombs outside their offices it's business as usual. Can any one remember a government that was liked? I can't remember one in my life time. Even the big events like Blair winning were like 3 months of "Hurrah something different" then right back to "Fucking wankers. Should hang the lot of 'em". The desire to hang politicians is the one universal trait of every government I can remember. They've always been hated and they know it, but no one ever acts on it so they consider the population too passive to be a danger to them.

A descendant of John Bellingham is a member of the House of Lords.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Bellingham,_Baron_Bellingham

 

[Made In Wales]

A descendant of John Bellingham is a member of the House of Lords.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Bellingham,_Baron_Bellingham

A decent MP as well, one of the traditional Tories who was for the people and not Cameron, May etc.

 

[anklyscr]

alright so I'm fully cut ad watching videos on YouTube but I came across this video of Winston Churchill's funeral .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Xkr8z3lEo

and I'm despite watching it multiple times I'm missing all the scenes where the goat fuckers....taxi drive.....child rapists...drug smugglers........pakis feature in it at all.

somehow we have brick shit house black guys mourning ole Churchie but no pakis.

when I become PM we are deporting anyone who's fifth cousin brother is called mohamed

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cSrqRdlFeo
look at this. I appreciate it's a fictional film about WW1 but why are we fighting our Eurobros. we build loads of awesome stuff together [see AIRBUS] why aren't we getting rid of the goat shaggers [the other ones , not the welsh.]

they aren't adding fuck all to GDP unless you mean gross domestic paedophilia

EDIT 2. I am totally on all the lists right now

 

[evrae]

Well damn. If it's too spicy for the farms you know it's serious.

I'd keep an eye on your back. Temporarily embarrassed Marxists have a tendency to mistake those for knife holders....

OK even more than usual for Britain.

Maybe it's me, but this is the kind of thing I'd want to raise to them. If that's all you need to do, that kinda tells me these aren't leftists, they're just people currently existing on the left but have nothing really developed that's keeping them there, if that makes sense.

I just use the Marx quote as an emergency option, in 99% of cases just presenting it in an anti-gov stance is enough. I'm honestly shocked how easily I can convince them on my views now.

Perhaps Made In Wales is right, in that because it aligns more with their current attitudes of utterly hating this gov, it has suddenly become far, far easier to lead people into these sort of views.

 

[Eddie Riggs]

Paki independence day celebrations in Manchester (Archive)

 

[Snackbarism]

Speaking of the Lords, Reform UK have gone from "we want to abolish it" to "oh shit we need our own unelected sleepy red bench sitters for life please give us some."

The funny thing is that I was actually thinking about this a few days ago, that they were going to need to have this discussion at some point to prepare for the future.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/36315634/nigel-farage-labour-reform-house-of-lords/

A RIGGING row has erupted after Labour rebuffed Nigel Farage’s demand for Reform representation in the House of Lords.

The Brexiteer has no peers in the upper chamber and asked Sir Keir Starmer to grant some.

He sent a letter to the PM — who has ultimate say over appointments — arguing the “seismic shifts” in British politics merits some Reform seats.

Although they have just four MPs, Mr Farage’s party is leading national opinion polls.

He has in the past called for the Lords to be replaced with an elected chamber akin to that in the US.

Mr Farage said: “Whilst Reform UK believes in a reformed House of Lords, the time has come to address the democratic disparity there.”

But Defence Secretary John Healey told LBC: “This is the same Nigel Farage that called for the abolition of the House of Lords and now wants to fill it with his cronies.

“I’m not sure Parliament is going to benefit from more Putin apologists like Farage.”

While PMs technically have the final say on House of Lords appointments, they grant opposition parties some peers.

When Sir Keir nominated 30 Labour lords in December, he allowed six Tories to be elevated to the upper legislature.

Hitting back at Mr Healey’s remarks, Reform deputy Richard Tice last night accused Labour of not playing fair.

Denying they were “Putin apologists”, he told The Sun: “It’s a democratic outrage and another old-fashioned establishment stitch-up. They are essentially rigging the system against the new party, changing the rules of the game.”

In his letter, Mr Farage noted Lib Dems have 76 peers but received 600,000 fewer votes than Reform last year.

Sir Keir previously pledged to abolish the Lords but he is not expected to carry out plans before the next election.

The problem is that the Lords is there to scrutinise and pass laws too, so the unfortunate conclusion is that there will need to be Reform peers at some point. And eventually if Reform actually get into power come the next election, they will need to do something to avoid the Lords from obstructing everything in sight....in before a deal with the Tories.

Keir Starmer's idea of reforming the Lords is to abolish the remaining hereditary peers and get rid of the over 80s, the latter has not been legislated on yet. I've seen some articles suggest that Reform would finally give a peerage to Ann Widdecombe, who was denied one under successive Conservative PMs, but she is close to 80 herself so would not get to last very long in there if Starmer gets his way. After all, we all know how much he hates the elderly. Gotta bump them off one way or another according to him.