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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.
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It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Made In Wales said:
Also, if you had 'Neurotypical' on your Ricky Jones Trial Bingo Card then you're a winner:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/snaresbrook-crown-court-walthamstow-southport-nazi-london-b2806145.html
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Slimy fucking cunts all round.
A Labour councillor who called for far-right protesters’ throats to be cut at an anti-racism protest told police the “ill-advised” comments were made “in the heat of the moment”, a court has heard.

In the wake of rioting following the Southport murders, Ricky Jones, 58, described demonstrators as “disgusting Nazi fascists”, his trial at Snaresbrook Crown Court was told.

A video showing Jones, who at the time was also employed as a full-time official for the Transport Salaried Staffs Association (TSSA) union, addressing the crowd in Walthamstow, east London, on August 7 last year went viral on social media after the protest.


Wearing a black polo top and surrounded by cheering supporters, the now-suspended councillor said: “They are disgusting Nazi fascists. We need to cut all their throats and get rid of them all.”

He also drew his finger across his throat as he spoke to the crowd.

Jones was arrested on August 8 last year and interviewed at Brixton Police Station that night.

A prepared statement submitted on Jones’ behalf at the police station read: “Yesterday at a rally in Walthamstow, I made a comment on microphone to a large crowd.

“I accept that these comments were particularly ill-advised.

“I was referring specifically to an incident the day before where some far-right activists had stuck a ‘National Front Rights for Whites’ sticker on a train and hidden a razor blade behind it in order that anyone trying to remove it would injure themselves.


“This had made me very upset. I grew up in the 1960s and 1970s when the National Front were very active and I experienced a great deal of racism in my youth.

“I did not intend for my comments to be taken literally by anyone and I did not intend to encourage or incite anyone to commit violence against any other.

“I am, however, extremely sorry for making the comments which were made in the heat of the moment and I very much regret having done so.

“I was not invited to speak on microphone until the last minute and I had not planned or thought about what I was going to say in advance.”

Jones, who has been a borough councillor in Dartford, Kent, since 2019, was suspended by the Labour Party the day after the alleged incident.

Giving evidence, Jones said he was “appalled” by political violence, adding: “I’ve always believed the best way to make people realise who you are and what you are is to do it peacefully.”

Jones, who said he was on the left of the Labour Party, told jurors the riots had made him feel “upset” and “angry” and said he felt it was his “duty” to attend counter-protests.

The father-of-four and grandfather said: “It reminded me of what I had to deal with as a youngster and it was painful to be reminded of that.

“We turned up to Walthamstow to peacefully demonstrate, to stop the far-right being able to come and smash up the immigration centre.”

Jones said he did not believe far-right protesters would turn up to the demonstration, adding: “They wouldn’t want to try and take on 10,000 people.”

Before the protest, the councillor had been warned to stay away from such demonstrations by the Labour Party.

Jones said he would “have attended anyway” despite this, adding: “It’s important for us to turn up to demonstrations like this to support our communities.”

A medical report by experts from the prosecution and defence agreed that Jones “suffers from a number of neurodivergent challenges”, jurors were told as part of agreed facts.

These include “impaired verbal comprehension potentially leading to misunderstanding the impact of his words” and “slower cognitive processing meaning he may not have evaluated the situation in real time”.

Jurors were also told testing had established Jones suffers from “impulsivity increasing the likelihood of reactive speech” and “emotional arousal which can override deliberate decision-making”.

The agreed facts read by prosecutor Ben Holt stated: “The experts agree that these challenges may contribute to impulsive verbal responses in emotionally charged situations.

“These challenges can impair his ability to plan responses and inhibit inappropriate remarks. This could lead to Ricky Jones making regrettable statements when he is unprepared.”

The prosecution’s medical expert, Dr Scott Mackenzie, said Jones’ difficulties appeared “functionally on the milder side as demonstrated by his ability to successfully work in senior roles where he has to speak publicly”.

The defence’s medical expert Dr Alison Beck said Jones’ difficulties were “statistically and clinically significant”.

Discussing the impact of “strong emotions” on Jones, defence barrister Hossein Zahir KC asked: “What is the difference between you and someone you might describe as neurotypical?”

Jones replied: “If I get emotional and distracted I come out with things I don’t always mean.

“The impact of me standing up and delivering a speech without planning it means it could come out wrong.”

Discussing his upbringing, Jones said he frequently encountered National Front graffiti and compared the situation to the popularity of Reform UK today, saying: “It created a bit like the situation today in the sense of the Reform party – a lot of people are being taken in by the Reform party and believe what they say.”

He added that he faced racial abuse at school and that other children would “spit” over his clothes.

The demonstration had been organised in response to plans for a far-right march outside Waltham Forest Immigration Bureau, jurors were told.

It followed the nationwide violent disorder that occurred last summer after the Southport murders.

Jones, of Dartford, denies one count of encouraging violent disorder.

Judge Rosa Dean told jurors on Tuesday morning that a person had “tailgated” them into a secure area of the court on Monday after CCTV footage was reviewed.

The judge added: “It’s perfectly clear that the person who tailgated has absolutely nothing to do with this case and that person is not welcome in this court.”

The trial continues.
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Since we need some lighter news
A Labour-run council has instructed staff to stop using the words “mother” and “father” to refer to parents.
Officials from Merton Council, in south-west London, say “caregivers” is more appropriate as it does not make assumptions about a children’s biological parents.
The guidance is contained in a 27-page inclusive language guide compiled by the equality, diversity and inclusion team to encourage the use of “gender-neutral” and “person-centred” language.
Other “tips and suggested language” include avoiding gendered phrases such as “man, mankind and workmanship” and instead saying, “humans, humankind and quality of work or skills”.

The guide adds that descriptive words in general – including references to race, gender, sexual orientation, disability, religion or age – are off the table unless they are “relevant and valid”.
In the section relating to age, the guide advises that staff “avoid general terms as these imply that people of certain
age groups or generations are a homogenous group, failing to recognise people’s individuality”.
Rather than “old” or “young”, staff are advised to say “mature individual”, “elderly person”, or “young person”.

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The council has even suggested banning the phrases “man the phones” and “man-made” in favour of “attend the phones” and “artificial”.
Under advice to “respect the preferences” of gender-neutral people, staff leading workshops have been warned against opening with “welcome, ladies and gentlemen”, with “welcome to friends and colleagues” recommended as an alternative.
Lord Young of Acton, the founder and general secretary of the Free Speech Union, said: “I’m amazed that Merton council has time for this nonsense.
“I can only assume fly-tipping and potholes aren’t a problem in Merton.”
A council spokesman insisted: “We aim to communicate with understanding and without making assumptions.”
The council has previously come under fire as The Telegraph revealed it was the local authority with the highest percentage of minor roads in need of maintenance throughout England and Wales.

According to analysis of Department for Transport (DfT) data, nearly 40 per cent of the borough’s roads had potholes and were in need of major repairs.
The data also showed the council had only fixed a mere 6.4 per cent of stretches needing attention.
Merton council has been approached for comment.
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Cannot be fussed formatting it but it's alternating between before and after suggestions

Merton council's inclusive language guide​


  • Instead of
  • Try
  • Mother and father
  • Parents, caregivers
  • The elderly,
  • Mature individual
  • The old
  • Elderly person/people
  • The young
  • Young person, young adults
  • The boys/girls in the office
  • The men/women in the office
  • The boys/girls in the office
  • Our colleagues in the office
  • A young and vibrant team
  • An effective and vibrant team
  • A mature workforce
  • An experienced workforce
  • Wheelchair-bound, confined to a chair
  • Person who uses a wheelchair
  • Cancer or dementia victims
  • People living with cancer or dementia
  • Deaf and dumb
  • People who are deaf
  • Nuts, psycho, mad,
  • People with a mental illness/condition
  • Retarded, slow
  • Person with learning disability
  • Schizophrenic
  • Individual with schizophrenia
  • Autistic child
  • A child diagnosed with autism
  • The disabled or the handicapped
  • Person with a disability
  • Normal, healthy, able-bodied person
  • People without a disability
  • Disabled toilets/lifts
  • Accessible toilets/lifts
  • Sexual preference
  • Sexual orientation
  • Lesbians, gays, bisexuals
  • Lesbian, gay, bisexual people
  • Family planning clinic
  • Sexual health clinic
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Wikipedia has lost a legal challenge to new Online Safety Act rules which it says could threaten the human rights and safety of its volunteer editors.
The Wikimedia Foundation - the non-profit which supports the online encyclopaedia - wanted a judicial review of regulations which could mean Wikipedia has to verify the identities of its users.
But it said despite the loss, the judgement "emphasized the responsibility of Ofcom and the UK government to ensure Wikipedia is protected".
The government told the BBC it welcomed the High Court's judgment, "which will help us continue our work implementing the Online Safety Act to create a safer online world for everyone".
Judicial reviews challenge the lawfulness of the way in which a decision has been made by a public body.
In this case the Wikimedia Foundation and a Wikipedia editor tried to challenge the way in which the government decided to make regulations covering which sites should be classed "Category 1" under the Online Safety Act - the strictest rules sites must follow.
It argued the rules were logically flawed and too broad, meaning a policy intended to impose extra rules on large social media companies would instead apply to Wikipedia.
In particular the foundation is concerned the extra duties required - if Wikipedia was classed as Category 1 - would mean it would have to verify the identity of its contributors, undermining their privacy and safety.
The only way it could avoid being classed as Category 1 would be to cut the number of people in the UK who could access the online encyclopaedia by about three-quarters, or disable key functions on the site.
The government's lawyers argued that ministers had considered whether Wikipedia should be exempt from the regulations but had reasonably rejected the idea.

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In the end, the court rejected Wikimedia's arguments.
But Phil Bradley-Schmieg, Lead Counsel at the Wikimedia Foundation, said the judgment did not give Ofcom and the Secretary of State, in Mr Justice Johnson's words, "a green light to implement a regime that would significantly impede Wikipedia's operations".
And the judgement makes it clear other legal challenges could be possible.
Wikimedia could potentially challenge Ofcom's decision making if the regulator did ultimately decide to classify the site as Category 1.
And if the effect of making Wikipedia Category 1 meant it could not continue to operate, then other legal challenges could follow.
"Wikipedia has been caught in the stricter regulations due to its size and user created content even though it argues (convincingly) that it differs significantly from other user-to-user platforms," said Mona Schroedel, data protection litigation specialist at law firm Freeths.
"The court's decision has left the door open for Wikipedia to be exempt from the stricter rules upon review."
The communications regulator Ofcom, which will enforce the act, told the BBC: "We note the court's judgment and will continue to progress our work in relation to categorised services and the associated extra online safety rules for those companies."
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Kofi Drinka said:
I've told the thread that many times. It's no longer towns getting them, it's small tourist places with a hotel for OAPs to visit the country side. They will take any hotel, no matter how remote and dump them there. Then they have nothing to do but invade the local park and drink/rape anything they can get their hands on. I won't say where but I've seen hotels used where there's literally nothing but a connection to the motor way. They're for truckers to stop overnight and now they're full of migrants miles from civilization
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This isn't even that, this is like like fucking absolute middle of nowhere, the height of 'tourism' for half of these places must just be people that got lost and stopped for a cup of tea and to ask for directions. The scotland one is hours from the nearest motorway and the welsh one which is actually not in wales but on the border is the same. Sure there's an A road but that's it. Though the welsh one does look kinda like there's some sort of military base there? Idk. Seems like a fair few are inside military bases which is interesting that they would put all of these military aged single men in such a place don't you think? I know it's probably for protection but still. It is kinda interesting though, there's a hotel on there near where I grew up that always had literally no one in, I had never seen a single person enter it so always just assumed it must be closed down but apparently now it's full of migrants. I would say thank fuck I moved but like let's be honest even the couple hundred migrants in those hotels aren't going to make manchester any more or less of a shithole.
 
Work has begun on the migrant tracker (since our government lost 150k of them!):

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Don't mind the random pins in the ocean (though it wouldn't surprise me if they were raping on the boats too), it's just test data. But it's rolling along quite well. Have spoken to Deer Sneeder and have a few possible privacy-friendly hosts. Have also messaged the guy who runs howfarfrommydoorstep.co.uk to see if he's up for a bit of a collab.

By far the most painful part of this will be actually building up the data set. Help needed.
 
femboy fart huffer said:
there's a hotel on there near where I grew up that always had literally no one in, I had never seen a single person enter it so always just assumed it must be closed down but apparently now it's full of migrants. I would say thank fuck I moved but like let's be honest even the couple hundred migrants in those hotels aren't going to make manchester any more or less of a shithole.
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Old hotels were done up with million quid refurbishments only to be handed over to these people. The amount of money spent is beyond any one's knowledge because so many things are being funneled into it. It's weird and made hard to track intentionally. But winter fuel allowance is too much for the natives.
 
Crunkle said:
By far the most painful part of this will be actually building up the data set.
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Make sure you immunize yourself against the danger of being accused of being full of shit, because if this goes anywhere (which I suspect it will) every single canard of "unreliable info" to "he's making it up" will be thrown to discredit you, the Hope Not Hate types love to tar and feather with that stuff.
You don't have to limit yourself to (((reliable sources))) or anything like that, just use plenty of citations make plenty of footnotes and of course ARCHIVE EVERYTHING, the more you back it up the better; don't be another Daily Mail comments section, make it academic and boring.
You'll be defamed as a lying liar who lies by (((them)) regardless but the work will speak for itself to those who matter.
 
Crunkle said:
Every single report on this map will have an article link to either court proceedings or whatever. As many articles per report if it's a particularly bad case, just so people have the full picture.
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I put a post in community happenings. It's the type of protect we could use help with setting up. Some kiwis are great at data harvesting and making it readable.

Does the UK have open court documents you can use? If you use news papers every article needs to be manually checked and I would check every rape article. They often say Muhammad from Newcastle (who arrived 1 week earlier) to try and hide it was a migrant hot drop.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
I put a post in community happenings.
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No pressure then!

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Kofi Drinka said:
Some kiwis are great at data harvesting and making it readable.
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Should we maybe get a DM chain or thread up to help with this? Really don't want to shit this thread up too much.

Kofi Drinka said:
Does the UK have open court documents you can use?
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Sort of. It's per region. Some regions have publicly accessible reports but some are a bit dodgy and are stuck in the past. Most of the reports come from newspapers who have court reporters that will make a report and usually snap a photo of the defendant.
 
Crunkle said:
Should we maybe get a DM chain or thread up to help with this? Really don't want to shit this thread up too much.
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I don't have any skills in anything that would be useful to the project. A DM chain for people wanting to help would be a good idea though.

Crunkle said:
Sort of. It's per region. Some regions have publicly accessible reports but some are a bit dodgy and are stuck in the past. Most of the reports come from newspapers who have court reporters that will make a report and usually snap a photo of the defendant.
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I would get the data you can as soon as you can. If this website is being watched you can expect them to hide it as quickly as possible. Assume you're being watched and the DMs will be read by people with bad intentions.
 
Has anybody ever noticed how much Kier Starmer sounds like the dog from this video?


Except nobody likes him.
I've been trying to place just what his stupid fucking voice reminded me of for a while now.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
I don't have any skills in anything that would be useful to the project. A DM chain for people wanting to help would be a good idea though.


I would get the data you can as soon as you can. If this website is being watched you can expect them to hide it as quickly as possible. Assume you're being watched and the DMs will be read by people with bad intentions.
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Crunkle

Thread 'UK Migrant Crime Tracker Development Thread'

Introducing a new tool to view crimes committed in the UK by migrants! See how politicians are allowing us to be harmed or even submit your own reports of crimes against our native population:

UK Migrant Crime​


migrantcrimeorg.webp ​

All reports will be checked and edited before they are made live on the map. Built in two days with Livewire. If you hit a bug, please report it in the thread or send me a DM.

Thanks to the help from KF users, I built this in a few days! This map will never be finished, so please make use of the...
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New thread, can you update the Community Happenings please? Come one, come all! Fingers crossed this is in the right place and I don't get jannied.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
I put a post in community happenings. It's the type of protect we could use help with setting up. Some kiwis are great at data harvesting and making it readable.

Does the UK have open court documents you can use? If you use news papers every article needs to be manually checked and I would check every rape article. They often say Muhammad from Newcastle (who arrived 1 week earlier) to try and hide it was a migrant hot drop.
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@Crunkle deserves a big pat on the back for this.

@Null any chance this could be made into a feature on the homepage?
 
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